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The Black Swordsman said:
It is not religion that it is the problem it is people. People have killed each other for simply rooting for a different sports team. Look what happened at the Raiders game this year and what happens in European football every single year. World War 1 and 2 are the largest wars ever and had nothing to do with religion. People are the problem. It is religion that try's to fix this problem but once again is having the trouble because of people.
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Wow!!! This guys ^^^ got it all together, man.
 
Millsapa said:
No they ain't. They shape the attitudes of blacks across this country to look at themselves as victims.
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The poor will look for any venue to share the belief that they are victims, be it religion, media, or commiserating with themselves. When you don't have much, and a country has a history of racial discrimination, it doesn't take much to shape that. Hell, Christians whine about how they're oppressed and they're a majority.
 
Nate505 said:
The poor will look for any venue to share the belief that they are victims, be it religion, media, or commiserating with themselves. When you don't have much, and a country has a history of racial discrimination, it doesn't take much to shape that. Hell, Christians whine about how they're oppressed and they're a majority.
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Worldwide Christians are nowhere near the majority.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Worldwide Christians are nowhere near the majority.
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I thought I wouldn't have had to make the declarative that this it the majority reference was to the United States, especially considering the previous subject matter that was being discussed and the implication was blindingly obvious, but I guess not.

And world wide Christianity is the largest religious group, though if you combine every other religious group and atheist/agnostic against them yes, they aren't the majority.
 
Millsapa said:
No they ain't. They shape the attitudes of blacks across this country to look at themselves as victims.
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You say this based on your personal experience in balck churches?

Strictly rhetorical. Your claim mde it clear you have not attended black churches to any significant degree.

Don't bother posting Youtube quote-mines. I've seen them, and seen the reality.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Worldwide Christians are nowhere near the majority.
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Christians are the plurality, and the fastest growing.

In the USA they are the majority; they whine, yeall, and threaten when they don't get to post that fact on government buildings.
 
Nate505 said:
I thought I wouldn't have had to make the declarative that this it the majority reference was to the United States, especially considering the previous subject matter that was being discussed and the implication was blindingly obvious, but I guess not.

And world wide Christianity is the largest religious group, though if you combine every other religious group and atheist/agnostic against them yes, they aren't the majority.
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Look we can't wait for one brow all the time. Someone had to pick at the nits, ok? And some of us don't have time to read EVERY post and respond line by line, syllable by syllable, we leave that to babe and one brow and franklin and such.


edit: I spoke too soon, brow did start picking the nits, using the same phrasing to discount a concept that he used to support the same concept in another thread. True mastery!
 
One Brow said:
Christians are the plurality, and the fastest growing.

In the USA they are the majority; they whine, yeall, and threaten when they don't get to post that fact on government buildings.
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Thank you for supporting my point.

And why should atheists be the only ones allowed to have their religion forced on the people?
 
I would argue against Christians being the majority. I mean, if you want to believe everybody when they say you're a Christian, go for it, but it's not true. Most of those people don't even know what the religion is about, just go to church and think that's good. Just like that one dude in here who was bashing other religions but didn't know anything about his own. Now if you're going to group together Christians with Mormons, Catholics, Jehovah's then you might be closer to being right, but all of those are different religions, so you shouldn't.
 
Christians stopped being religious when they started worshiping Jesus Christ instead of God and saying that they are not accountable for their own sins since Jesus died for them.
 
GVC said:
what?
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Stripping away every vestige of any belief at all, among a people with a majority of believers, is forcing atheism on people every bit as much as erecting a crucifix at city hall would be forcing Christianity on everyone.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Stripping away every vestige of any belief at all, among a people with a majority of believers, is forcing atheism on people every bit as much as erecting a crucifix at city hall would be forcing Christianity on everyone.
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Hardly. How is no statement either way the same as forcing atheism on people? Couldn't I, by the same standard, argue that no statement denying the existence of God is forcing religion on people?

And last I checked, the 50's Christian changes to the Pledge of allegiance and national motto ("In God We Trust"...so amazingly inferior to "E Pluribus Unum") remain.

When atheists are allowed to place monuments mocking religion or denying the existence of God on public land/property, you'll have an argument. Until then, your statement is just plain stupid.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Look we can't wait for one brow all the time. Someone had to pick at the nits, ok? And some of us don't have time to read EVERY post and respond line by line, syllable by syllable, we leave that to babe and one brow and franklin and such.
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The Black Swordsman said:
Christians stopped being religious when they started worshiping Jesus Christ instead of God and saying that they are not accountable for their own sins since Jesus died for them.
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This is stupidly false. That is clearly religious. Maybe not your flavor of it but ait is none the less.
 
Hantlers said:
I would argue against Christians being the majority. I mean, if you want to believe everybody when they say you're a Christian, go for it, but it's not true. Most of those people don't even know what the religion is about, just go to church and think that's good. Just like that one dude in here who was bashing other religions but didn't know anything about his own. Now if you're going to group together Christians with Mormons, Catholics, Jehovah's then you might be closer to being right, but all of those are different religions, so you shouldn't.
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Is there some sort of litmus test for being a Christian other than believing Jesus Christ is the son of God?

As a bit of an aside, what kills me about religion and its followers is that when some nutjob like the Christian in Sweden kills people many will say he wasn't a "true" Christian since the actions of murder contradict core Christian principles, but when a group of nutjob Muslims run planes into buildings well they are still Muslims, just extreme...even though murder seems to violate core Muslim principles. Well, what is it? Do actions define a religious belief or is it something that someone just has a belief in?
 
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