When Was The Last Time a Conservative Came on Here to Offer Anything?

[Jazz Spazz]

I said the only thing racists hate more than minorities is being called racist.

I didn't call all conservatives racist.

It started with Thriller talking about all conservatives and Russia, moving on to you saying something like “because Russia never called them racist”. Later on in another post you said that bit about racists not liking being called racists but it clearly followed the whole train starting with all conservatives.

Either you don’t know what you are saying, or you don’t want to own up to it. Maybe you didn’t intend to call every conservative a racist but that’s sure how it reads.

Maybe don’t get so caught up in winning an argument or getting a dig in, or own the fact you think all conservatives are racists. Or clearly state when you are changing topics or the subject of the conversation, because you didn’t.

I don’t feel like arguing, but didn’t want to let it go because it’s a conversation stopper for me.

Have a good night.

I’ll just assume it read different than intended.

 

[Rubashov]

It started with Thriller talking about all conservatives and Russia, moving on to you saying something like “because Russia never called them racist”. Later on in another post you said that bit about racists not liking being called racists but it clearly followed the whole train starting with all conservatives.

Either you don’t know what you are saying, or you don’t want to own up to it. Maybe you didn’t intend to call every conservative a racist but that’s sure how it reads.

Maybe don’t get so caught up in winning an argument or getting a dig in, or own the fact you think all conservatives are racists. Or clearly state when you are changing topics or the subject of the conversation, because you didn’t.

I don’t feel like arguing, but didn’t want to let it go because it’s a conversation stopper for me.

Have a good night.

I’ll just assume it read different than intended.

Being a conservative is one thing supporting Trump who is not a conservative is another. There is no political reality where a vote for Trump is not an implicit or explicit vote for white America. It is a vote for institutionalised racism. I can wear a cape and call myself superman but it wont give me super powers. People can call themselves conservative talk about small government and family values but by voting for Trump they are voting for a racist and supporting racism. There is no cape or fig leaf to remove that stain.

 

[Sardines]

Being a conservative is one thing supporting Trump who is not a conservative is another. There is no political reality where a vote for Trump is not an implicit or explicit vote for white America. It is a vote for institutionalised racism. I can wear a cape and call myself superman but it wont give me super powers. People can call themselves conservative talk about small government and family values but by voting for Trump they are voting for a racist and supporting racism. There is no cape or fig leaf to remove that stain.

Exactly

 

[Sardines]

It started with Thriller talking about all conservatives and Russia, moving on to you saying something like “because Russia never called them racist”. Later on in another post you said that bit about racists not liking being called racists but it clearly followed the whole train starting with all conservatives.

Either you don’t know what you are saying, or you don’t want to own up to it. Maybe you didn’t intend to call every conservative a racist but that’s sure how it reads.

Maybe don’t get so caught up in winning an argument or getting a dig in, or own the fact you think all conservatives are racists. Or clearly state when you are changing topics or the subject of the conversation, because you didn’t.

I don’t feel like arguing, but didn’t want to let it go because it’s a conversation stopper for me.

Have a good night.

I’ll just assume it read different than intended.

I have been a conservative.

First, racism isn't really a 1 or 0, yes or no. Everyone harbors some amount of racist thought. To call a person a racist it generally takes significant outward expression of hostile racist ideology.

A lot of people in the Trump camp in particular contend that racism has become completely irrelevant in our society and it's the libs that continue to force a racial narrative into the political spectrum. This is false. Current, active racism, including some systemic racism, has a continuing negative impact on a significant number of people in our society. The "momentum" of outright racist policies and practices from the past few centuries has placed black Americans in general at a deficit that each individual has to overcome.

Trump made the life of black people and their struggle to overcome racism more difficult, largely by design. All while gaslighting his supporters into thinking he has done more for the blacks than anyone since Lincoln.

I don't think all "conservatives" are racist, so that is not what my statement meant or I would fundamentally disagree with my own statement.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I have been a conservative.

First, racism isn't really a 1 or 0, yes or no. Everyone harbors some amount of racist thought. To call a person a racist it generally takes significant outward expression of hostile racist ideology.

A lot of people in the Trump camp in particular contend that racism has become completely irrelevant in our society and it's the libs that continue to force a racial narrative into the political spectrum. This is false. Current, active racism, including some systemic racism, has a continuing negative impact on a significant number of people in our society. The "momentum" of outright racist policies and practices from the past few centuries has placed black Americans in general at a deficit that each individual has to overcome.

Trump made the life of black people and their struggle to overcome racism more difficult, largely by design. All while gaslighting his supporters into thinking he has done more for the blacks than anyone since Lincoln.

I don't think all "conservatives" are racist, so that is not what my statement meant or I would fundamentally disagree with my own statement.

Thanks for the clarification. Much appreciated!

 

[PJF]

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