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I gave you a response with how Trump is going to use it. Might I suggest reading comprehension classes if you don't get that?
Then look at my original post and see what I had to say about tariffs. See if you can take off your Trump blinders and you use your reading comprehension to see I wasn’t talking about Trump, I was talking about the use of Tariffs. I even said both administrations could use them this way and help Americans out.

So again, you just responded to argue, because of “Trump”, when in reality you (your own words), me and the Trump surrogate have the same philosophy on how to use tariffs.

It would have been a lot easier to watch the clip, read my post and try to not hate me because some times I like Trumps policies and bash on Kamala; then respond yeah I agree with this too.
 
Then look at my original post and see what I had to say about tariffs. See if you can take off your Trump blinders and you use your reading comprehension to see I wasn’t talking about Trump, I was talking about the use of Tariffs. I even said both administrations could use them this way and help Americans out.

So again, you just responded to argue, because of “Trump”, when in reality you (your own words), me and the Trump surrogate have the same philosophy on how to use tariffs.

It would have been a lot easier to watch the clip, read my post and try to not hate me because some times I like Trumps policies and bash on Kamala; then respond yeah I agree with this too.
It's not Trump blinders. It's a simple statement of fact. A flat a-bomb of a tariff helps no one except if they are looking for increased prices and unemployment.


Trade analysts are warning that new tariffs threatened by former President Donald Trump, which he doubled down on during Tuesday night’s presidential debate, will create inflationary pressures in the supply chain and ripple through the broader economy.

Trump defended his trade policy during the debate, dismissing concerns that blanket tariffs of up to 20% on all imports and additional tariffs of 60% to 100% on goods from China will lead to higher consumer prices.


Judah Levine, head of research for Freightos, says if history is any guide, additional tariffs will fuel ocean freight rates. During the first Trump administration, as importers rushed to move goods into the country before tariffs went into effect, ocean container rates from Asia to the U.S. West Coast started rising sharply in July 2018, and doubled by mid-November, according to Freightos data.
Frankly, if you think that such a blanket tariff helps anyone, you are drunk. You should know better than that. Trump should be campaigning on ending inflationary pressures once and for all, not looking to increase them.

So again, if you don't get any of that, then that's on you.

So again, on Trump's proposal:
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It's not Trump blinders. It's a simple statement of fact. A flat a-bomb of a tariff helps no one except if they are looking for increased prices and unemployment.



Frankly, if you think that such a blanket tariff helps anyone, you are drunk. You should know better than that. Trump should be campaigning on ending inflationary pressures once and for all, not looking to increase them.

So again, if you don't get any of that, then that's on you.

So again, on Trump's proposal:
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Last post on this from me. The clip has nothing to do with a blanket 20% tariff. I want nothing to do with a blanket 20% tariff, you don’t want a blanket 20% tariff.

You still have not watched the clip.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP!

I never said anything about Trump other than this clip had a Trump surrogate in it.

Not talking about Trump at all. No Trump.

I’m talking about the strategic use of tariffs that either administration can use to help the American people and businesses.

No Trump…still not talking about Trump, again no Trump in any of this. Never had it, not even now. Not about Trump.
 
This:

View: https://x.com/jeremykauffman/status/1835782658091102608?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ


For saying most likely this:

View: https://x.com/jeremykauffman/status/1835649337574957477?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ

Because she is this:

View: https://x.com/endtribalism/status/1833560861845426259?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ


I will never vote for a far left extremist, which she is. 2 big ones: Wants to regulate speech, wants gun buybacks.

View: https://x.com/endtribalism/status/1831717581868171648?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ




View: https://x.com/catholicvote/status/1829707200979484955?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ


You guys are anti Trump, I get that. I really do. I just can’t with good faith vote for either of these options. Doesn’t mean I can’t agree with both of them on certain policies. I will side more with Trump on economy and immigration and I will side more with Kamala on social programs.

Again my vote doesn’t really matter in Florida anyway.
Why does wanting to regulate free speech or gun buy backs make her a far left extremist?



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Even Hillary is getting on the fun to jail Americans for “misinformation”.

When I say extremists, this is a prime example, just happened an hour ago.


View: https://x.com/nataliegwinters/status/1835858099598397594?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ

I mean if we regulate speech, maybe everyone of these people should be in jail:

View: https://x.com/collinrugg/status/1835765305316184142?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ
Oh don't worry. Trump just wants to jail those who simply criticize him (even if the criticism is accurate true information) and according to Bill Barr, trumps AG, trump also just wants to execute people who upset him.


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If the Democrat’s response to Biden’s debate performance was “OK, we’re gonna lose in all likelihood, but how bad could a second Trump presidency be”? I’d be both surprised and disappointed. Pissed as well I’m sure. Engaged in a present moment that includes the possibility of an angry authoritarian bent on retribution returning to the Oval Office, I’ll be damned if our response should be to accept that outcome as inevitable. There are two fundamental political realities at the moment.
Change the rules to strip half the country of its voice. Climb atop a steel building or sit outside a fence to assassinate their candidate. You make it sound not only justified but noble.

Sometimes you have to do things a little different to prevent a disastrous outcome. ... We’re in a situation that calls for acting in the best interest of our nation.
There aren’t two fundamental political realities. There are two works of mostly fiction. Both are like the movie Forrest Gump. There are portrayals of real events used as scaffolding for the story but it is a work of fiction. It is deeply concerning to see how many have seemingly lost the ability to tell the difference between what is real and what is being contrived.
  • There is no authoritarian on the ballot
  • American Fascism isn’t coming
  • Christian Nationalism is not a force in 2024
  • Trump did not try to overthrow the government or prevent a peaceful transfer of power
  • The election isn’t that important
 
Why does wanting to regulate free speech or gun buy backs make her a far left extremist?



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Okay 2 things.

1. The question was asked to me "Why am I anti-Kamala?"
My response was 1. Speech Regulation and 2. Mandatory Gun buybacks
This is because both of these ideas are chipping away from our rights and are terrible ideas, I mean terrible ideas. Speech regulation is the worst idea anyone can propose. Even posters on this forum are trying to get behind it, almost exclusively people on the left. Its a short sighted view on the topic and MT Steve is doing a great job explaining why.

2. I called Kamala a far left extremist, not because of those 2 things but because of:

1. Open Border policies
2. Pack the Supreme Court because you don't like what they have decided. You blame Trump for this, but it is a Democrat who did not step down when age and health was a concern and gave Trump a 3rd pick
3. Remove the Filibuster

And more. I have videos and articles with her and her views on these topics, but I have realized that YOU and many other posters do not watch or read the provided media to support my views or show the point Im trying to make. It has bacame very obvious that most posters here really just want to argue, play gotcha or just not really want to look at something that is opposite of their view. I have also noticed many posters can't even process the argument the other person is making. No critical thinking, no effort, no real responses; just make fun of the other, call them a troll, or shame them.
 
Oh don't worry. Trump just wants to jail those who simply criticize him (even if the criticism is accurate true information) and according to Bill Barr, trumps AG, trump also just wants to execute people who upset him.


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Show me a video with him in public, not 3rd party hearsay, that displays him stating he wants to regulate speech, throw democrats in a reeducation camp, jail people for misinformation or even jail someone who "simply criticizes him". The first thing I will do is I will say I am anti-Trump for his view on this topic. Again, still not voting for him either way.

You never addressed my post. Just changed it to Trump. If you're ok with what Kamala, Tim, Hillary, posters on this Forum and other people on the left to regulate speech, then you should be happy Trump would want to jail people who criticize him. Those are the same ideas coming from Kamala, Tim and Hillary.

I am the opposite of this. I think its a truly short sighted view on the 1st amendment. People not seeing or realizing what would come if that happens.
 
Change the rules to strip half the country of its voice. Climb atop a steel building or sit outside a fence to assassinate their candidate. You make it sound not only justified but noble.


There aren’t two fundamental political realities. There are two works of mostly fiction. Both are like the movie Forrest Gump. There are portrayals of real events used as scaffolding for the story but it is a work of fiction. It is deeply concerning to see how many have seemingly lost the ability to tell the difference between what is real and what is being contrived.
  • There is no authoritarian on the ballot
  • American Fascism isn’t coming
  • Christian Nationalism is not a force in 2024
  • Trump did not try to overthrow the government or prevent a peaceful transfer of power
  • The election isn’t that important

I'll take things that are false for 500, Alex.

You're joking right?
 
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP!
Nah mate, it does. A specific, targeted tariff can be useful for a variety of reason. Blanket tariffs, like what Trump wants, do not work. That **** has been tried and tried again and all it does it manufacture economic problems. What you take from that is up you to, but when you are using a video of a Trump surrogate trying to thinking we should tariff everything that comes into the US? Yeah, you tell me.
 
Okay 2 things.

1. The question was asked to me "Why am I anti-Kamala?"
My response was 1. Speech Regulation and 2. Mandatory Gun buybacks
This is because both of these ideas are chipping away from our rights and are terrible ideas, I mean terrible ideas. Speech regulation is the worst idea anyone can propose. Even posters on this forum are trying to get behind it, almost exclusively people on the left. Its a short sighted view on the topic and MT Steve is doing a great job explaining why.

2. I called Kamala a far left extremist, not because of those 2 things but because of:

1. Open Border policies
2. Pack the Supreme Court because you don't like what they have decided. You blame Trump for this, but it is a Democrat who did not step down when age and health was a concern and gave Trump a 3rd pick
3. Remove the Filibuster

And more. I have videos and articles with her and her views on these topics, but I have realized that YOU and many other posters do not watch or read the provided media to support my views or show the point Im trying to make. It has bacame very obvious that most posters here really just want to argue, play gotcha or just not really want to look at something that is opposite of their view. I have also noticed many posters can't even process the argument the other person is making. No critical thinking, no effort, no real responses; just make fun of the other, call them a troll, or shame them.
I've searched repeatedly and don't get anything on mandatory gun buy-backs. In the debate the moderator pointed out that that was not Harris' position and she said, we're not taking anyone's guns away, and wishes they would stop lying about it. Presumably Trump and his supporters, that is. Here is an article about it as well. There are many more. The only ones I can find with anything about mandatory are from Trump himself, his direct retinue, and the NRA. Am I missing something?

 
Change the rules to strip half the country of its voice. Climb atop a steel building or sit outside a fence to assassinate their candidate. You make it sound not only justified but noble.


There aren’t two fundamental political realities. There are two works of mostly fiction. Both are like the movie Forrest Gump. There are portrayals of real events used as scaffolding for the story but it is a work of fiction. It is deeply concerning to see how many have seemingly lost the ability to tell the difference between what is real and what is being contrived.
  • There is no authoritarian on the ballot
  • American Fascism isn’t coming
  • Christian Nationalism is not a force in 2024
  • Trump did not try to overthrow the government or prevent a peaceful transfer of power
  • The election isn’t that important
I’m reasonably sure you would have supported King George III, at the time. You would have made a good Loyalist…..

“Climb atop a steel building or sit outside a fence to assassinate their candidate. You make it sound not only justified but noble” When did I approve of assassination attempts?? When did I make assassinations justified and noble? You are here lying.
You’re a LIAR.

If you don’t think Trump attempted to prevent a peaceful transfer of power, then you’re in that alternative reality, ready made for the Post Truth era and our history texts if Trump returns and has his way.

I see absolutely nothing to be gained in supporting a candidate and party that is divorced from the real world, adheres to a fake description of recent history, is eager to see Trump act as their “retribution”, and essentially move into the future on the basis of a narrative that has no basis in the real world. You can stay with the Loyalists and King George III.

If that phony, really bald face lying history, lying narrative, blaming others for his own actions and misdeeds, if that’s your position and what you want to see it unfold in our future, well, I might assume there’s something deeply, deeply wrong with you.

Sorry, but there is no reason whatsoever, to think you have anything at all to offer or add to this subject. Not when you’re right here arguing for the Lie.

One more thing: I get a kick out of your effort to label me as someone has predicted certain outcomes, which you enumerated. When I have repeatedly emphasized those very elements are a part of our present moment, and it is entirely appropriate to raise them as subjects of present interest, and not once posed as: “This is going to happen! I am predicting this. You heard it here first”. What you continue to fail to understand is that folks like myself, who thrive where ideas are thrown around, all day sometimes, find such subjects appropriate for discussion within the whole broad subject of what is happening in America in the present moment.

It is 100% appropriate to see context, esp. historical context, when trying to understand the present moment. It’s called social science, and I love using the tools of social science. Take your suggestion, implied, that I knock off doing that, and put it where the sun don’t shine. That’s where it belongs. You don’t have to like that suggested context, but if you think you can stand in my way with such an asinine post as the one I’m replying to, good luck! I don’t answer to you!

Things like Christian nationalism, while knowing full well that nationalism has been the principle cause of modern warfare since the late 19th century. Things like we may be experiencing an epidemic of Dunning-Kruger, largely a result of the internet and social media, I believe. This too is an element in our present moment, and has resulted in tons of misguided misinformation.

I could go on and on, but this is my main gripe: I don’t care in the least if you disagree with everything I have ever said. But, you are misrepresenting me when you claim I am insisting everything I believe we should be aware of, IN ORDER TO BETTER UNDERSTAND OUR PRESENT MOMENT, will result in the worst outcome we could imagine! I’m simply looking for the elements feeding into our present moment.

And that, sir, is a GOOD thing. It’s a HELPFUL thing.

Because, you basically are telling me that I should not raise issues that might better help us understand how we got to where we are. You are telling me that it is wrong for me to add context. To add historical context. To look for nuance. You’re telling me all that is wrong!

I’m only trying to help people understand better how we got here, and elements that are in play in our present moment. Again, you continue to broadcast the impression that you despise learning, by essentially saying: “stop adding your educated opinions. I don’t like it!”. Well, who cares what you like or dislike?

I will use my education to add anything I want to this subject, if I believe it offers some insight. But I cannot, and have not, used a crystal ball, or psychic abilities I lack, to know how the elements I’ve mentioned in these threads will play out in the future. And you really ought to stop claiming that that is exactly what I am doing.

You lied about what I said, and you’re lying in your response. Misrepresenting me entirely, because it suits you. That’s entirely on you, you cannot handle context and nuanced looks.
 
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I've searched repeatedly and don't get anything on mandatory gun buy-backs. In the debate the moderator pointed out that that was not Harris' position and she said, we're not taking anyone's guns away, and wishes they would stop lying about it. Presumably Trump and his supporters, that is. Here is an article about it as well. There are many more. The only ones I can find with anything about mandatory are from Trump himself, his direct retinue, and the NRA. Am I missing something?


View: https://x.com/kelly4humanity/status/1833914431887343708?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ
 
Nah mate, it does. A specific, targeted tariff can be useful for a variety of reason. Blanket tariffs, like what Trump wants, do not work. That **** has been tried and tried again and all it does it manufacture economic problems. What you take from that is up you to, but when you are using a video of a Trump surrogate trying to thinking we should tariff everything that comes into the US? Yeah, you tell me.
I will Venmo someone on the left $20, that will watch this clip and confirm to Stormofwar that this Trump surrogate didn’t not state that a blanket tariffs are a good thing and how to use them.

Just watch and report the details of this clip from the surrogate. What he actually said. I don’t want anyone from the right, so there is no bias. I will Venmo immediately after the report is posted.


View: https://x.com/squawkcnbc/status/1835712983713898609?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ


I need info about what car manufacturers, what countries, if it makes sense to tariff everything or use it a different way. Also a let me know if this surrogate is for a blanket 20% on everything or use it strategicly.
 
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