Jazz trade talk 2024-25

[HermanG]

This thread is for general trade spitballing and or flimsy rumors we hear, that are not big enough that they need a dedicated thread.

 

[HermanG]

I will start. We heard a few Kessler to Knicks runors during offseason but you never know if they are real or not.

Well Marc Stein confirmed that Knicks made multiple attempts to get him but we wouldnt budge from asking at least 2 FRPs.

Does anyone have any intel on what their best offer was?

 

[MT Steve]

The first round picks that the Knicks could have offered in a trade were the heavily protected Pistons and Wizards picks that will almost definitely end up converting to 2nd rounders.

 

[KqWIN]

Kessler -> trade talks are dead with Towns trade. Here is the article on that: https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/...kessler-trade-before-karl-anthony-towns-deal/

BTW, that DET pick was good. It was almost certainly NOT going to turn into second rounders, but the Wizards one will.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I don't think the Jazz are committed to any of their current bigs longterm, though I think they're intrigued by Filipowski. Clarkson and Collins are obvious trade candidates this year, and both were in trade rumors over the past year.

 

[HermanG]

Kessler -> trade talks are dead with Towns trade. Here is the article on that: https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/...kessler-trade-before-karl-anthony-towns-deal/

BTW, that DET pick was good. It was almost certainly NOT going to turn into second rounders, but the Wizards one will.

Hence the past tense. Im just interested at their best offer if someone leaked it. Sets some kind of a baseline on how other teams value Kessler

 

[MT Steve]

Kessler -> trade talks are dead with Towns trade. Here is the article on that: https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/...kessler-trade-before-karl-anthony-towns-deal/

BTW, that DET pick was good. It was almost certainly NOT going to turn into second rounders, but the Wizards one will.

I think at best the Pistons pick would've been something in the high teens in 2027, but you have a lot more faith in them getting out of the basement by then than I do.

 

[KqWIN]

I think at best the Pistons pick would've been something in the high teens in 2027, but you have a lot more faith in them getting out of the basement by then than I do.

All they have to do is make the playoffs in the next three years, chances are they'll do that and once they do it likely won't be something late in the first round. Mid/high teens pick is the most likely outcome for that pick. It's more likely than turning into seconds for sure.

 

[MT Steve]

All they have to do is make the playoffs in the next three years, chances are they'll do that and once they do it likely won't be something late in the first round. Mid/high teens pick is the most likely outcome for that pick. It's more likely than turning into seconds for sure.

I really don't like their young guys and think they're very far away, but we'll see.

Either way I wouldn't trade Kessler for that pick + the Wizards likely 2nd rounder.

 

[homeytennis]

Hoopsrumors had a story of the Jazz-Knicks talks for Kessler this summer. It strikes me that DA does not view Kessler in the long term plans.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Wasnt this known like 1-2 months ago?

 

[KqWIN]

Wasnt this known like 1-2 months ago?

Yeah we've ben talking about it for months. I thought their pile of stuff was a decent trade package for Kessler. They needed to include McBride though.

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

All eyes should shift to Pels if a Kessler trade is going to happen. I would expect if Ingram becomes a hard target Kessler would be included in that trade.

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

Honestly, I am more interested in potential destinations for Clarkson and Collins. Injuries will probably play a major role in either of them moving. Next year seems the better option as both will be on expiring deals and teams will be looking to dump salary.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Some team will likely have a need for Kessler and may give up enough to get him. It won't be two firsts though. I think a good first and something extra (solid prospect or multiple seconds). There are some teams that are already shallow at center and if an injury happens its an easy contract to put in a deal. Pels is #1 on the list, but there will be others. Sacramento, Charlotte, Atlanta, Lakers, maybe Cleveland if they do an Allen deal and want a really solid backup/part time center to pair with Mobley at times. It will depend on how teams seasons are going and what injuries happen.

Maybe its a first for Kessler and one of the JCs and the bad money is part of the benefit of moving him. I will say there is a 70% shot he is on the roster to start the season NEXT year.

 

[idiot]

Just for the record, I'm hoping Kessler thrives with the Jazz long term.

 

[KqWIN]

Some team will likely have a need for Kessler and may give up enough to get him. It won't be two firsts though. I think a good first and something extra (solid prospect or multiple seconds). There are some teams that are already shallow at center and if an injury happens its an easy contract to put in a deal. Pels is #1 on the list, but there will be others. Sacramento, Charlotte, Atlanta, Lakers, maybe Cleveland if they do an Allen deal and want a really solid backup/part time center to pair with Mobley at times. It will depend on how teams seasons are going and what injuries happen.

Maybe its a first for Kessler and one of the JCs and the bad money is part of the benefit of moving him. I will say there is a 70% shot he is on the roster to start the season NEXT year.

I'm not looking to trade Kessler necessarily, but the reality is that he should have significantly more value to other teams than the Jazz right now. You getter starter-ish (could be less or more depending on his performance) for two seasons extremely cheap. A team that's competing and/or is in a cap crunch has to value that much more than a team in UTA's situation with no immediate cap crunch or desire to compete. NOP fits the description perfectly. Missi+the 2027 pick (most favorable of MIL/NOP) makes a decent amount of sense. Technically, that's two first round pick value but Missi has off the lot pricing.

In the fallout of an Ingram trade Collins, Kessler, and maybe even Eubanks would be on NOP's radar. Everybody knows they're desperate for a real C.

I'd also add GSW to that list if Looney is cooked. They could use another big and they have a surplus of guards.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm not looking to trade Kessler necessarily, but the reality is that he should have significantly more value to other teams than the Jazz right now. You getter starter-ish (could be less or more depending on his performance) for two seasons extremely cheap. A team that's competing and/or is in a cap crunch has to value that much more than a team in UTA's situation with no immediate cap crunch or desire to compete. NOP fits the description perfectly. Missi+the 2027 pick (most favorable of MIL/NOP) makes a decent amount of sense. Technically, that's two first round pick value but Missi has off the lot pricing.

In the fallout of an Ingram trade Collins, Kessler, and maybe even Eubanks would be on NOP's radar. Everybody knows they're desperate for a real C.

I'd also add GSW to that list if Looney is cooked. They could use another big and they have a surplus of guards.

Supposedly Looney has dropped weight and looks good right now... but yeah that NO trade would make sense. They will eventually address their luxury tax issue as well. That is why Hawkins for Kessler (hopefully they'd add stuff) worked really well as it put them either below the tax or really close.

 

[KqWIN]

Supposedly Looney has dropped weight and looks good right now... but yeah that NO trade would make sense. They will eventually address their luxury tax issue as well. That is why Hawkins for Kessler (hopefully they'd add stuff) worked really well as it put them either below the tax or really close.

I think Eubanks could really interest them as a salary match for Moody if Looney isn't right....but either way I still want to target Moody. He's the 12th guy on that team and if Kerr had any faith in him they probably wouldn't have signed two guys to play ahead of him this summer. It's one of those situations where it would be malpractice for his agent to leave him there.

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

Just for the record, I'm hoping Kessler thrives with the Jazz long term.

I would love this but Hardy wants to play 5 out and he just doesn't seem like a good shooter.