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This election should be a slam dunk for republicans. If they can ever separate from the cult of Trump and get someone like Romney running again, they'd be doing great.
I'd likely literally vote for ANY Republican they could put out there besides Trump, over Harris. Maybe Desantis is only one of a couple I wouldn't. The problem now is the party itself has been infected with TDS, so they will all feel they need to have similar platforms to get elected. His base expect the misogynist and racist policies and strong-man tactics. So they will disingenuously use similar policies and language. It'll take a while to filter this filth out of the party. In the meantime the Democrats enjoy a kind of de facto moral superiority that wouldn't be anywhere near so cut and dried if the Republican party were sane.
 
California has the highest unemployment rate in the country by a lot, and you know this because you lost your job in California and had to leave the state to find employment. If there is anyone on JF that should know when someone is urinating on your head and telling you it is raining, it is you.
 
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This election should be a slam dunk for republicans. If they can ever separate from the cult of Trump and get someone like Romney running again, they'd be doing great.
I would have voted for Nikki Haley. Or not voted at all.
 
****ing preach


This election should be a slam dunk for republicans. If they can ever separate from the cult of Trump and get someone like Romney running again, they'd be doing great.
What does someone like Romney or Nikki do for the base?

The base wants to lose.
They want the grievance.
They crave the racism.
They love the misogyny.

When Trump talks about getting rid of corruption and draining the swamp, his base understands it not to be about political reform. They understand it (correctly) to be a dog whistle of getting rid of the undesirables and punishing their perceived enemies. For the base, they want to reorder the political, social, and cultural hierarchy. And if they can’t win, then they’ll be just as happy losing and burning the country down with them. That’s why they know Trump lies nonstop. They know he’s a ****ing moron. They don’t care. He ****ing irritates the hell out of decent and intelligent people and that gives them joy.

Haley and Romney don’t provide the base with that. The base just doesn’t get excited over tax policy, supporting NATO, and “boring” political leaders that don’t feed them the red meat of racism and grievance that Donald does. That’s why those boring Republicans have been ousted from the party. RINO cucks!
 
They do exist. But now they are closer to the middle than they ever were before. Want to know why we have more people claiming they are "independent" than ever before? It's the disenfranchised traditional conservatives that make up a large portion of those. Like my parents, and countless other people I know. Where they still feel something of the familiar in what Trump stands for, enough that when their friends and family say they are voting for Trump they have to wonder, is this what it means to be conservative now? And that's why they are split. They don't know which way to go any more. My mom is a great example. She's shocked her friends and family want Trump, she sees what he did to the party and the country and will not vote for him. But damn it's hard to vote for a Democrat. She feels she has no choices at all that reflect what she believes. And that's very true. She'll vote for Harris though. Because she sees the danger Trump is. But she'll do so through gritted teeth.
I find it interesting why they find it hard to vote for a Democrat other than blind tribalism. Harris has adopted many Republican positions. I find it weird that people find it hard to vote for someone they agree with 75 percent of the time. Especially when the competition is Trump, someone who many of these Republicans should disagree with on every major issue (if they ever cared about policy).
 
This, for me, is the worst part about maga. I love my country. I dont want it burned down.
That’s because you’re a decent person. For many of these people, they’re choosing to act their own worst selves. It’s easier for them to just let their hate, paranoia, and ugliness free. Plus, you get to play victim all the time. Trump gives these people a license to act out their worst fantasies. Which is typical of fascist leaders/movements, be it Nazi germany, Rwanda, or Hungary. I’ve been reading some books on authoritarian psychology. And sadly this is pretty typical. Trump attracts disgusting people and they provide him the love and praise he never got as a child. He reciprocates by providing cult followers with a license to be their worst selves. There is freedom in being free from the constraints of decency and moderation. There is entertainment and thrill in saying the worst things you can thing of. Acting on impulse rather than thought is easier and requires zero self-reflection. Without self-reflection, you don’t ever have to take responsibility or apologize. Which, you can see MAGA has taken to heart. Apology and accountability are things they reject.

Often, these movements die out because political parties and elites stop them. In this case, the GOP and Fox News opened the door and allowed him in. And now he’s taken over the party. The conservative elite could’ve taken Trump out a long time ago, the 2015 primary, the 2016 election (after access Hollywood), and had two impeachments.

Had they taken advantage of that last impeachment and ended Trump after Jan 6, just imagine where they’d be today.
 
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This election should be a slam dunk for republicans. If they can ever separate from the cult of Trump and get someone like Romney running again, they'd be doing great.
I like Harris. She’s not my favorite but I think she’s a good candidate. A normal democratic politician. One that actually has some skills, winning a few state wide positions as a Democrat in CA isn’t easy!

I like how she supports Ukraine, supports women getting health care, supports the constitution, is a very good public speaker, and is generally pro freedom. I’m not a fan of her immigration policy. But that’s okay, I don’t have to agree with a candidate 100 percent to support them. I think she’s a fine candidate and will be a very good president over the next 8 years. I’m not sure why people think every president needs to be Abraham Lincoln, FDR, or Biden. There are plenty of eienshowers who just take care of business.
 
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Btw, that’s not a typo. I challenge anyone on this board to name me 6 presidents with worse conditions and accomplished more. I have a feeling you’ll struggle to find 4 or 5 tbh. It’s not popular for media figures to admit, but Biden has easily been the best president we’ve had in our lifetimes.
 

My coworker put on a video at work of trump being interviewed by bloomberg. Its over an hour long and I have listened to a good chunk of it just being in/around the room its being played in. You would think that there is no one interviewing him. Its just trump talking. Rambling. Most of it makes no sense and is irrelevant to anything. So much of what he says is structured like this "I know a guy who makes cars. He has a huge factory. He makes great cars. One time he told me that china is so hard to compete against. He tells me 'sir, my cars aren't the same quality as china's and so im going out of business. Is there anything you can do to help me' then he started to cry. I tell him I can charge a tariff on china and save your company. 'He tells me, thank you sir. I appreciate everything you do for me'. No one can make deals like me" and then rambles on to the next word salad. He talks about how he knows a lot of people in the audience and crap. I believe The Thriller calls it "flooding the zone" or something. He simply never stops bull ********.
This is the video.

 
Funny thing is you go after what many of us already believe, that she isn't a great candidate. Very few people here believe she is a good candidate. But what you also did was, maybe inadvertently, defend and espouse Trump-ian politics in your denigration of Harris. That's where your arguments fell apart. Again NONE OF US LIKE HARRIS, SHE'S ABOUT THE WORST OPTION THEY COULD HAVE COME UP WITH, but she's a ****ing damn sight better than Trump.

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My first post, the minute news broke about her, exactly what I had to say: She is the worst option the Democrats can choose. She's not "about the worst option" and "a ****ing dam sight better than Trump". She is the worst candidate the Democrats can choose. (You don't have to yell, I understand your point).

Then Str8ghtline said:

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He had the best post of the Day here. Its about fielding the candidate who has the best chance to win... We can't afford to **** this up. What did I respond?

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"Seriously, I dont understand how people can't see this. Great Post!".

Str8line knew from the start, just like I did, that this is the opportunity to beat Trump for the final time, then he is all done. It would be done. I am onboard with this idea. Yet you can't see this or care to read the posts I write. You have so much Trump hate that you lump me in with MAGA, yet I am not. I even said this about Vance the same day:
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He has no real history and not much in politics or anything else, he is very thin (meaning accomplishments). Wow look at all that MAGA come out of me. All from the first day within minutes of announcement.

And that's where it diverges. You prefer a known racist and misogynist and convicted felon and adjudicated rapist and corporate and billionaire shill and continual proven liar and insurrectionist and pretty obvious fascist to Harris.
Where do I prefer Trump to Harris? Please show my praise to Trump. Or show what I have been saying from the start RFK or nobody. My vote doesn't matter here in Florida, I'll vote on local items but leave the president blank. So please stop lying about what I said. I can pull these screenshots for you as well.

We don't. So yeah, your arguments fall ****ing flat. Hate her all you want, point out all the flaws, and none of them come close to saying "I'll be a dictator on day one", et al. They just don't. Unless you are fine with dictator trump and his racist misogynist fascist policies. And it seems you are.
No, I just see big picture from the start, that its you and your tribe ****ing this whole election up with putting in the WORST candidate they can choose from. Biden is still a better candidate than her.

Log, what is this going to get you? (Oct17th RCP map)

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This could get the GOP more seats in the House, expand the senate, add more life time Justices in the Supreme Court, more judges all over the country. Everything you hate, everything. I hate this as well, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE having a split congress.

You should stop yelling at me and being upset with me, when I didn't do any of this to you. You should be mad at your overlords who stole this election from you. You have a primary, the democrats would win. I even laid out who I would vote for in the Democratic ticket within minutes of the announcement. Yet, you will continue to try to lump me into MAGA, even with evidence shown to you, that you're incorrect in how you are characterizing me.

And "IF SHE LOSES" don't get upset with me, I didn't vote for Trump, I was the first to warn about her, and yes I and still Anti-Kamala, because she does have very radical views.
 
My coworker put on a video at work of trump being interviewed by bloomberg. Its over an hour long and I have listened to a good chunk of it just being in/around the room its being played in. You would think that there is no one interviewing him. Its just trump talking. Rambling. Most of it makes no sense and is irrelevant to anything. So much of what he says is structured like this "I know a guy who makes cars. He has a huge factory. He makes great cars. One time he told me that china is so hard to compete against. He tells me 'sir, my cars aren't the same quality as china's and so im going out of business. Is there anything you can do to help me' then he started to cry. I tell him I can charge a tariff on china and save your company. 'He tells me, thank you sir. I appreciate everything you do for me'. No one can make deals like me" and then rambles on to the next word salad. He talks about how he knows a lot of people in the audience and crap. I believe The Thriller calls it "flooding the zone" or something. He simply never stops bull ********.
This is the video.

He just said "13.099 people were released into our country. All murders. All in jail. Many on the death penalty" I mean what is the interviewer supposed to do with a statement like that? trump doesn't show where he got the numbers from. He doesn't provide specifics or context or anything. Just says stuff.

He just said "Venezuala, their crime has gone down at levels no one has ever seen before. Because they have taken their street gangs, their drug dealers and they've emptied their prisons. They come from insane asylums and terrorist organizations. I had the best border in history. the numbers now are the worst numbers ever seen but my numbers were the best ever seen." There are about 8-10 Venezuelans who work with me. Im not just saying this. Its my honest to God opinion. They are the best, hardest workers. They are the friendliest people who work here. I wish there were more of them.

And on and on and on. Never provides sources, or details, or specifics, or context. Just a constant stream of BS rambling.
 
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This could get the GOP more seats in the House, expand the senate, add more life time Justices in the Supreme Court, more judges all over the country. Everything you hate, everything.
A. And trump winning wouldn't cause this to happen?
B. I wouldn't necessarily hate that. I dont know more GOP seats is a bad thing (I dont hate the GOP). I dont know that an expanded senate is a bad thing or more lifetime justices is a bad thing. I dont know that more judges all over the country is a bad thing. I do know that trump is a bad thing though.
C. As has been said to you mucho times. No one is arguing with you about the greatness of Kamala. Almost all of us wish the democrats had a different candidate. But that isn't happening. Its trump vs Kamala. trump is BY FAR the worse candidate of the two.
 
A. And trump winning wouldn't cause this to happen?
Im saying this would happen if Trump wins. Everything he hates would happen.
B. I wouldn't necessarily hate that. I dont know more GOP seats is a bad thing (I dont hate the GOP). I dont know that an expanded senate is a bad thing or more lifetime justices is a bad thing. I dont know that more judges all over the country is a bad thing. I do know that trump is a bad thing though.
More seats for the GOP in the senate and the house would mean that Trump can push his agenda right on through...no effort needed. You're good with that? I'm NOT, NOT AT ALL!
C. As has been said to you mucho times. No one is arguing with you about the greatness of Kamala. Almost all of us wish the democrats had a different candidate. But that isn't happening. Its trump vs Kamala. trump is BY FAR the worse candidate of the two.
Except he is not when it comes to the election. You're looking at it through the person, not the contest. Sure Trump is BY FAR the worse candidate of two personally. But he is the better candidate to win the election. That is the point. I brought this up in the post with Str8ghtline. It's about the election win.
 
Im saying this would happen if Trump wins. Everything he hates would happen.

More seats for the GOP in the senate and the house would mean that Trump can push his agenda right on through...no effort needed. You're good with that? I'm NOT, NOT AT ALL!

Except he is not when it comes to the election. You're looking at it through the person, not the contest. Sure Trump is BY FAR the worse candidate of two personally. But he is the better candidate to win the election. That is the point. I brought this up in the post with Str8ghtline. It's about the election win.
Wait, is your point that you wish the democrats had a better candidate than they do? ok. Who would argue against that? I wish the republicans had a better candidate that trump. Cool Cool.
Log said he doesn't like harris. I said it. We pretty much all said it. Why are you bringing it up again?

As for your last sentence: You agree that trump is by far the worst candidate. You dont want trump to get more judges and seats. Vote Harris then. easy peasy. Attack trump for all his **** rather than harris. easy peasy. Instead when you rarely post its to attack harris and/or excuse/ defend trump. Very confusing.
 
But he is the better candidate to win the election.
What makes you say so?

Who would you have wanted to be the candidate? The incumbent VP was a pretty obvious pick.

As far as Biden being a better candidate, that is definitely not what polls or the internet bubble seem to indicate since she took over in the race. There's no doubt in my mind that Trump still wishes he was running against Biden instead of Kamala.
 
Wait, is your point that you wish the democrats had a better candidate than they do? ok. Who would argue against that? I wish the republicans had a better candidate that trump. Cool Cool.
Log said he doesn't like harris. I said it. We pretty much all said it. Why are you bringing it up again?
Read the post, directed at me. Why is he bringing it up? Trying to call me MAGA and mischaracterizing me again. So I have to lay out the proof. Im not sitting here taking the BS thrown at me.
 
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