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Douchebag K said:
3/4 of Americans and obese or overweight with a cataclysmic amount of chronic disease purely related to poor diet / lifestyle and are on medications for lifetime.
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About same amount who believes Earth is 6000 years old and a bit less who voted for Trump. Poor education is too blame, not health system. And uneducated, brain dead conspiracy quack leading health system is not going to improve it lol.
 
fishonjazz said:
Oh you think experts and scientists go to Americans homes and feed them their food and take away their treadmills. I see why you are confused now.

A medical professional can give sound medical advice but is unable to force the patient to heed that advice.

Do you think a non medical professional handing out advice will make Americans eat healthy and exercise? Medical professionals tell Americans to eat healthy and exercise all the time but we don't do it. You think that the same advice coming from some random person will be followed instead? Strange take.

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MVP said:
About same amount who believes Earth is 6000 years old and a bit less who voted for Trump. Poor education is too blame, not health system. And uneducated, brain dead conspiracy quack leading health system is not going to improve it lol.
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You just don't understand, it's all the system, man. You can't be part of the system. You gotta throw those experts on the ground! Man!


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MVP said:
About same amount who believes Earth is 6000 years old and a bit less who voted for Trump. Poor education is too blame, not health system. And uneducated, brain dead conspiracy quack leading health system is not going to improve it lol.
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I love how you don’t respond to the assertion but go off on a tangent. You think the state of people’s health and the system in the United States is good or not ????

It’s indefensible and thoroughly corrupt.
 
fishonjazz said:
Oh you think experts and scientists go to Americans homes and feed them their food and take away their treadmills. I see why you are confused now.

A medical professional can give sound medical advice but is unable to force the patient to heed that advice.

Do you think a non medical professional handing out advice will make Americans eat healthy and exercise? Medical professionals tell Americans to eat healthy and exercise all the time but we don't do it. You think that the same advice coming from some random person will be followed instead? Strange take.

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Do you have any ideas if the additives and chemicals in your food that are illegal to use the rest of the world ?? In the US profit for health care and food companies is king above all.

Do you think the state of the US health care system is good, fair and driven by pure motives ?? Are you ok with so much of your population being so chronically ill ??? Defending whatever system and officials who oversee this debacle is the weirdest take.
 
Douchebag K said:
Do you have any ideas if the additives and chemicals in your food that are illegal to use the rest of the world ?? In the US profit for health care and food companies is king above all.

Do you think the state of the US health care system is good, fair and driven by pure motives ?? Are you ok with so much of your population being so chronically ill ??? Defending whatever system and officials who oversee this debacle is the weirdest take.
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I highly doubt that things in our food that are banned in the EU are the problem. Most of that **** is political.

In the U.S. profit is king for all things. That isn't about to change because RFK and Dr. ****ing Oz have a say. It seems that it would only get worse.

I think the U.S. health care system is a ****ing joke. I think my Dr. has relatively "pure" motives, one of them being money, another is providing good care. I think the insurance situation is where the problem lies. Employer provided health care subsidies is dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb. We should give employers a break and the government should subsidize our health insurance. Single payer would be the best option.

I honestly don't care if people are chronically ill due to their own lifestyle choices. What I want is for them to have access to solutions, hopefully before they develop a chronic illness. It's always going to be up to them to take advantage of those solutions or not.

There are at least hundreds of thousands of people who "oversee this debacle," many of them are legitimate experts in what they do. I prefer experts to laymen in any moderately complicated task. I don't value "common sense" over "book smarts." I value knowledge and experience. I don't value some Monday morning quarterback spewing hot takes.
 
Douchebag K said:
Do you have any ideas if the additives and chemicals in your food that are illegal to use the rest of the world ?? In the US profit for health care and food companies is king above all.
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Every country has it's own rules and regulations about what is ok or not ok to use. What is fine in USA, may not be allowed in Canada, Europe, Japan or Australia and vice versa. Out of curiosity can you list those chemicals and additives which are in food only in USA but nowhere else?

BTW based on this little article USA is ranked nr. 3 in food quality and safety while Australia nr. 13. Maybe you should worry what chemicals and additives are in your vegemite.
Canada is ranked nr. 1 BTW, so I am good lol.

Global Food Security Index (GFSI)

The Global Food Security Index (GFSI) is an annual assessment measuring food security through affordability, availability, quality and safety, and sustainability and adaptation metrics worldwide.
impact.economist.com impact.economist.com
 
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Douchebag K said:
Do you have any ideas if the additives and chemicals in your food that are illegal to use the rest of the world ?? In the US profit for health care and food companies is king above all.

Do you think the state of the US health care system is good, fair and driven by pure motives ?? Are you ok with so much of your population being so chronically ill ??? Defending whatever system and officials who oversee this debacle is the weirdest take.
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The topic was rfk saying that we shouldnt listen to healthcare professionals.
Your post has nothing to do with that topic.

I did work for a week in a food production plant in Brazil. Holy crap am glad for the FDA in America after seeing the nasty and literally illegal (in America) things that went on in that facility.
 
Sardines said:
I highly doubt that things in our food that are banned in the EU are the problem. Most of that **** is political.

In the U.S. profit is king for all things. That isn't about to change because RFK and Dr. ****ing Oz have a say. It seems that it would only get worse.

I think the U.S. health care system is a ****ing joke. I think my Dr. has relatively "pure" motives, one of them being money, another is providing good care. I think the insurance situation is where the problem lies. Employer provided health care subsidies is dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb. We should give employers a break and the government should subsidize our health insurance. Single payer would be the best option.

I honestly don't care if people are chronically ill due to their own lifestyle choices. What I want is for them to have access to solutions, hopefully before they develop a chronic illness. It's always going to be up to them to take advantage of those solutions or not.

There are at least hundreds of thousands of people who "oversee this debacle," many of them are legitimate experts in what they do. I prefer experts to laymen in any moderately complicated task. I don't value "common sense" over "book smarts." I value knowledge and experience. I don't value some Monday morning quarterback spewing hot takes.
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Do you prefer experts who are financially compromised and a system that so blatantly allows not just possible conflicts of interest but fairly clear corruption in the interactions between the drug industry and the regulatory bodies that are supposed to police the industry and be responsible for approvals of drugs etc ??

RFK certainly has some lets say dubious ideas. But he does have a long history in litigation of companies to hold them to account for the consequences of their actions.


Dr Oz is a ****ing moron, that one is a complete joke.
 
Bucknutz said:
No, you don’t understand, if you support him you support all of his ideas and beliefs. It’s a 100% or nothing.
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Unfortunately we don't get to pick and choose which version of crazy we get from an appointee like that. You get what he chooses to do. So if they have some overly damaging takes on something that now falls in their legal purview we should pay attention and be wary. We ignore what they say directly from their own mouths at our peril.
 
Douchebag K said:
Do you prefer experts who are financially compromised and a system that so blatantly allows not just possible conflicts of interest but fairly clear corruption in the interactions between the drug industry and the regulatory bodies that are supposed to police the industry and be responsible for approvals of drugs etc ??

RFK certainly has some lets say dubious ideas. But he does have a long history in litigation of companies to hold them to account for the consequences of their actions.


Dr Oz is a ****ing moron, that one is a complete joke.
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This is a good post. I would say that I prefer experts that are financially compromised over non experts that are financially compromised.

See, getting rid of experts doesn't mean getting rid of financially compromised people. You don't have to be an expert to be financially compromised and I would argue that you are easier and more likely to be financially compromised if you are not an expert.
An expert is generally going to be more passionate about the subject and care more about the subject. An expert is generally going to already be doing fine financially and not be hard up for money.
A non expert is more likely to care less about the subject and also more likely to need money more.

If RFK wants to get rid of financially compromised people then that is awesome! But replace them with experts who are not financially comprised rather than non experts.

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Sowing distrust of authorities and experts is directly out of the fascism playbook. Trump is deep in that already. See his pick of Dr. Oz. The most financially compromised and conspiratorial of fake "experts" he could possibly choose.
 
fishonjazz said:
This is a good post. I would say that I prefer experts that are financially compromised over non experts that are financially compromised.

See, getting rid of experts doesn't mean getting rid of financially compromised people. You don't have to be an expert to be financially compromised and I would argue that you are easier and more likely to be financially compromised if you are not an expert.
An expert is generally going to be more passionate about the subject and care more about the subject. An expert is generally going to already be doing fine financially and not be hard up for money.
A non expert is more likely to care less about the subject and also more likely to need money more.

If RFK wants to get rid of financially compromised people then that is awesome! But replace them with experts who are not financially comprised rather than non experts.

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If only Trump had a record for us to judge him on. You know? Like for the last 50 years, has he shown himself to be honest? Care about the little man? Has he demonstrated that he cares about ethics or keeping financial laws? As president, did he drain the swamp or swamp the drain? As president did he value expert and expertise? Or did he merely value loyalty? Did he uphold laws and the constitution or did he abuse the laws and ignore the constitution?

It’s amazing to me how many in this country suffer from amnesia. It’s like they’ve forgotten that Trump was already president. Which is incredible because even that administration Was corrupt as hell. Remember him forcing the secret service to stay at his own resorts? Remember him firing Comey because he wouldn’t drop investigating Flynn and “that errr Russia thing?” Remember blackmailing Zelensky? Demanding Georgia’s Sec of State to find enough votes to swing the state his way? People have this magical thinking that now they’re going to see the average Joe rewarded, billionaires punished, and corruption uprooted when we’ve already seen four years of Trump doing the opposite of this.

I guess propaganda and xenophobia really cause people to overlook obvious character deficiencies and project whatever they want onto the dear leaders they identify with.
LogGrad98 said:
Sowing distrust of authorities and experts is directly out of the fascism playbook. Trump is deep in that already. See his pick of Dr. Oz. The most financially compromised and conspiratorial of fake "experts" he could possibly choose.
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Exactly.

And can we stop pretending that Oz is some expert? Sure, at some point he studied medicine and was a practicing professional. But for the last few decades he’s helped promote a lot of grifters and quacks on his teevee show. Serious people who care about the well-being of fellow citizens should absolutely be concerned with a former doctor who platform dangerous people and their products. If anything, this makes it worse since he most likely knew the grifters on his show would do harm but didn’t care because he valued money and being on teevee more than the health and well-being of his viewers. Which makes him an obvious fit for this administration. Of course, we don’t live in that type of country anymore. We live in a country bored to death of peace and prosperity and only cares about the spectacle. We couldn’t stand having just a reality teevee president. Now we have to have a teevee cabinet members too! Soooo many clicks and views! So much entertainment!

The sad irony is that trumpers are going to be hurt the most by these picks. People like me and my family will still get vaccinated and drink safe milk. It’ll be the cultists who listen to these grifters and end up harming themselves or their family members. Just as we saw during Covid when red states saw disproportionate amounts of death due to anti-vax hysteria from the right. It’s why Trump backed off his administration’s (lone) accomplishment, operation warp speed and the vaccines. At the end of the day, it’s the poor rubes who empower autocrats, who suffer the most. Whatever! They didn’t learn last time Trump was president. Doubt they’ll learn this time. It’ll at least provide me with some good laughter when they’re bitching about inflation and seeing their social security benefits being cut in order to fund tax cuts for Trump’s buddies.
 
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The Thriller said:
And can we stop pretending that Oz is some expert? Sure, at some point he studied medicine and was a practicing professional.
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So, he studied medicine and was a practicing professional but it is pretending to say education and experience is what makes an expert?
 
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