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I didn't realize conference play was starting already, I guess not fot everyone yet. Here's my attempt at a top 20 pre conference play.

1. Flagg
2. Harper

3. Ace
4. Edgecombe
5. Demin
6. Johnson
7. Kasparas
8. Traore

9. CMB
10. Fland
11. Philon

12. McNeely
13. Kon
14. Malauch
15. Noe
16. Queen
17. Fears
18. Newell
19. Riley
20. Mgbako
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I didn't realize conference play was starting already, I guess not fot everyone yet. Here's my attempt at a top 20 pre conference play.

1. Flagg
2. Harper

3. Ace
4. Edgecombe
5. Demin
6. Johnson
7. Kasparas
8. Traore

9. CMB
10. Fland
11. Philon

12. McNeely
13. Kon
14. Malauch
15. Noe
16. Queen
17. Fears
18. Newell
19. Riley
20. Mgbako
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Conferences dont even make sense anymore.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
This is also the natural cycle among American evaluations. When the college season is going the focus is college players and Euros get pushed to the side. College season will end and all eyes will be on Traore as his team enters their post-season. He shows out there and he's back to being a hyped prospect.
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Traore has been absolutely horrible though?

The reason he and Hugo have fallen is because they've sucked. Traore looks like a clone of Dante Exum.

If Traore doesn't improve in the remaining games, I would expect him to be drafted around the same spot Collier was last year.
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
Traore has been absolutely horrible though?

The reason he and Hugo have fallen is because they've sucked. Traore looks like a clone of Dante Exum.

If Traore doesn't improve in the remaining games, I would expect him to be drafted around the same spot Collier was last year.
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Are you watching his games, and if so how?

If not, I don't think you really know what you are talking about. He still has the highest assists per minute of any of the prospects and typically has one of the highest +/- on his team according to his box scores.

He is going through a cold stretch of not hitting shots, but without watching I'm not sure why. He's also playing against grown men, and honestly I'm still trying to figure out how to compare competition. I really wish he would have come to the U.S. to play college ball.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Thiero had a nice game today--26/10/3. He's doing just about everything but making 3s.
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It feels like everyone knows he should go in the top 10 and he will eventually go in the top 10, but no one wants to move him up first.

A super athlete putting up great numbers who can really defend at the forward spot? Of course he's going to be good.

A third year wing player who can't shoot 3s going in the top 10? Of course he's going to bust.

Really tough spot for anyone trying to place him.
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
It feels like everyone knows he should go in the top 10 and he will eventually go in the top 10, but no one wants to move him up first.

A super athlete putting up great numbers who can really defend at the forward spot? Of course he's going to be good.

A third year wing player who can't shoot 3s going in the top 10? Of course he's going to bust.

Really tough spot for anyone trying to place him.
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Lmao he's not a first rounder and t he can't shoot. Nowhere close top 10
 
Notable Freshman in RAPM so far (does not include today). This is a very measure, but still a way to try the answer the question "How does this player's team perform when adjusted for the teammates and opposing players". Coop is the number one freshman and carried by his defense. Harper standing out as the best offensive player. Ace and Edgecomb lagging behind the others.

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HadAnEffectHere said:
Ryan Dunn averaged 8.1 PPG on 56.4% TS%

Theiro is averaging 17.6 PPG on 63.1% TS%

Theiro is years ahead of where Dunn was last year (and is younger than Dunn was)
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Dunn was the best defender in the draft last year. He had a bonafide elite NBA skill to give him a foundation. I like Thiero, he's got a lot going for him, but he's going to need to show he can make enough shots.
 
Jakucionis' stepback threes are very impressive but "college Luka" is uhhhhhhhh

I think he got penetration two total times against the future car salesmen of Northwestern.

He's also tiny compared to Luka (and his arms are just so short) and is only like a 7.5/10 passer.

He's also kind of annoying to watch just because he flops so relentlessly.

He's in the Boogie Fland range where he's clearly a good basketball player, but his physical tools are so awful that it's not clear he can translate his play to the NBA. In that 3-20 range along with a billion other guys right now.
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
Ryan Dunn averaged 8.1 PPG on 56.4% TS%

Theiro is averaging 17.6 PPG on 63.1% TS%

Theiro is years ahead of where Dunn was last year (and is younger than Dunn was)
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Dunn was the elite of the elite when it came to defensive prospects. You think this is a smart post, but it's not.
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
Jakucionis' stepback threes are very impressive but "college Luka" is uhhhhhhhh

I think he got penetration two total times against the future car salesmen of Northwestern.

He's also tiny compared to Luka (and his arms are just so short) and is only like a 7.5/10 passer.

He's also kind of annoying to watch just because he flops so relentlessly.

He's in the Boogie Fland range where he's clearly a good basketball player, but his physical tools are so awful that it's not clear he can translate his play to the NBA. In that 3-20 range along with a billion other guys right now.
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Kasp measured 6'5 w/o shoes with a 6'7.5 wingspan. His wingspan isnt short.
 
If you are calling a 6'6 PG w/ a 6'7.5 wingspan "awful physical tools" then you are on here just trying to have a controversial opinion.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
If you are calling a 6'6 PG w/ a 6'7.5 wingspan "awful physical tools" then you are on here just trying to have a controversial opinion.
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He's extremely slow and weak. Kyle Anderson obviously has bad physical tools even though he's a 6'8" PG with a 7'3" wingspan (and yes, Kyle Anderson was absolutely a PG in college) so you can't just say "tall PG thus OK physical tools."
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
He's extremely slow and weak. Kyle Anderson obviously has bad physical tools even though he's a 6'8" PG with a 7'3" wingspan (and yes, Kyle Anderson was absolutely a PG in college) so you can't just say "tall PG thus OK physical tools."
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So he's a 6'6 PG who is slow and weak, but manages to get to the FT line at an extraordinary rate?
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
He's extremely slow and weak. Kyle Anderson obviously has bad physical tools even though he's a 6'8" PG with a 7'3" wingspan (and yes, Kyle Anderson was absolutely a PG in college) so you can't just say "tall PG thus OK physical tools."
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Yeah, thanks for letting me know your opinions are bottom tier.
 
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