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Following Potential 2025 Draftees

Tom Pitt said:
Fears scares me. He's probably out of rotations or out of the league in 5-6 years if he can't shoot 3 ball at league average. If the Jazz fall to 5, there are only two viable options: Tre Johnson or Kon Kneuppel. both those guys having the size and scoring ability that will lead to 10+ year NBA careers
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I think the Jazz will go with Flagg, Harper, Bailey, Johnson and Edgecombe. I don't think Fears really enters the conversation. If everything goes right for him, then he'll cook, but it's a lot to bet on with a top-5 pick.

If the Jazz really, really loved Fears, then maybe they'd trade back from #4 to #6 and try to pick up another 2026 pick along the way, but I doubt they'd do it.
 
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I’m still not sure how I feel about Kon. I think his outcome is going to be particularly context-dependent. Sounds like he wasn’t great when he wasn’t playing next to the best player in college basketball. He also had a great connection with maybe the best lob threat in college basketball. If he doesn’t have players to play off of, does that dramatically change his outcome? Also, is he just not athletic enough for the league?

I guess where I’m going with this is drafting him with the Jazz pick could be a disaster (who would he play off of, does he have requisite athleticism?) and I think he could be a (potentially easily acquirable) re-draft guy (especially if we got Flagg) later on.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I’m still not sure how I feel about Kon. I think his outcome is going to be particularly context-dependent. Sounds like he wasn’t great when he wasn’t playing next to the best player in college basketball. He also had a great connection with maybe the best lob threat in college basketball. If he doesn’t have players to play off of, does that dramatically change his outcome? Also, is he just not athletic enough for the league?

I guess where I’m going with this is drafting him with the Jazz pick could be a disaster (who would he play off of, does he have requisite athleticism?) and I think he could be a (potentially easily acquirable) re-draft guy (especially if we got Flagg) later on.
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He was pretty good without Flagg. 23 usage, ~60% TS, doubled his assist rate.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
I think the Jazz will go with Flagg, Harper, Bailey, Johnson and Edgecombe. I don't think Fears really enters the conversation. If everything goes right for him, then he'll cook, but it's a lot to bet on with a top-5 pick.

If the Jazz really, really, loved Fears, then maybe they'd trade back from #4 to #6 and try to pick up another 2026 pick along the way, but I doubt they'd do it.
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Edgecombe looks about 6'3 too me and of slight build. If the Jazz pick #4 or #5, i hope they go with Tre Johnson
 
Tom Pitt said:
So Tre Johnson 6'6 and good athlete is gonna have a 10+ year career in the NBA. The only question I have is he Swaggy P (floor), Ray Allen (Ceiling) or a healthy Micheal Redd (reasonable comp). 40% from 3 and 87% from the line is a good sign.

Kon Knueppel reminds me of Hayward a little bit(not just cause he's white lol) though I'm not sure he can put on the kind of Muscle Hayward did... maybe a blend of Hayward and Bojan is a good comp. 40% from 3 and 90% from the line and 48% spot up shooter from 3. I see a 10+ year career likely as a starter.

It's more likely to me that Tre and Kon have better careers than Edgecombe. Both are safer picks, in my eyes, than Edgecombe who was poor shooting off the dribble. Btw, there is just no way Edgecombe is 6'5... he's 6'3 maybe. and of slight build compared to Donovan... I don't see it as much with Edgecombe. I'd be concerned if we take him tbh. I think he might slide on draft night a little bit
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Watch Edgecombe play defense in comparison with Tre Johnson. That is why he is mocked higher. It is also why his floor is much higher than you think it is. Edgecomb isn't just an adequate defender for his position, he's a plus defender at 3 positions.
 
framer said:
Watch Edgecombe play defense in comparison with Tre Johnson. That is why he is mocked higher. It is also why his floor is much higher than you think it is. Edgecomb isn't just an adequate defender for his position, he's a plus defender at 3 positions.
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He's not a plus defender imo. He's a defensive playmaker with defensive upside. He wasnt locking anyone up in college and he's more of a one position defender. He guards guards. Doesnt have the size to guard big wings.
 
framer said:
Watch Edgecombe play defense in comparison with Tre Johnson. That is why he is mocked higher. It is also why his floor is much higher than you think it is. Edgecomb isn't just an adequate defender for his position, he's a plus defender at 3 positions.
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Fair point. Maybe I'll watch him again and reassess... i just wasnt thrilled the 1st couple games i watched him
 
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