I think the skinny factor was a distraction from his other major flaws. It's his most obvious issue and one that theoretically gets better....but in no world should we consider a guy with the worst peripherals stats a do it all player. I made this mistake, that's for sure.
Should Cody spend time in the G LEAGUE
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homeytennis
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Cody broke a finger on his non shooting hand earlier. Some people handle pain better than others and I just wonder if that is a big contributor to his awfulness.
His rebounding and stocks have been decent in the G, especially considering he's sharing the floor with Oscar.
Are you sure? Why is no one talking about it?
One thing I recall about Cody in the pre college discussion is that a number of people I listened to said he was really bad in the international tournaments. I know he had a lot of hype before that then a lot of people dropped him after those.
Googled it and it came up with nothing
HadAnEffectHere
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Yeah, he just didn't play at all in the all-star circuits and international tournaments because he was so bad.
He followed that up with a bad college season but moved up just because the draft itself was so bad.
But in retrospect, if you're so bad that you can't get minutes in the McDonalds All-American game and you follow that up by being bad in college... It's probably a bad sign.
He played in the international tourneys. He also played at McDonald's, which doesn't matter at all as it's an all star type environment.
Cody Williams impresses at McDonald’s All-American Game
Plus, Bronny James got linked to the Buffs by a big name.
www.ralphiereport.com
Plus there were reports he was impressive in that game.
His college season wasn't bad at all.
homeytennis
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Sarah Todd mentioned it in the Deseret News when it happened. Sexton has a similar injury.
Why do you say he was bad in college? He wasn't amazing, but was very good for a Freshman. Here are his game logs and when I compare these against the Freshman this year, he compares pretty well to all, but the top 4 or 5 guys. For sure he limped to the finish line with a very unproductive end of the season, but the majority of his games were very impressive for a Freshman.
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homeytennis
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I think a lot of the scouting staffs in the league saw the potential. He was good in Summer League and if memory serves he had a couple of good preseason games.Why do you say he was bad in college? He wasn't amazing, but was very good for a Freshman. Here are his game logs and when I compare these against the Freshman this year, he compares pretty well to all, but the top 4 or 5 guys. For sure he limped to the finish line with a very unproductive end of the season, but the majority of his games were very impressive for a Freshman.
Cody Williams Game Log - College Basketball | FOX Sports
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Cody was good at scoring (efficiently) in college, but he was also one of the least effective guys amongst the top guys. COL was actually pretty stacked and had multiple pros + great college players. He was in a really good situation to be the 5th best player.
I remember this post I made from a long time ago. RAPM SSS caveats of course, but he wasn't that good (compared to other prospects) at Colorado.
I remember this post I made from a long time ago. RAPM SSS caveats of course, but he wasn't that good (compared to other prospects) at Colorado.
HadAnEffectHere
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Why do you say he was bad in college? He wasn't amazing, but was very good for a Freshman. Here are his game logs and when I compare these against the Freshman this year, he compares pretty well to all, but the top 4 or 5 guys. For sure he limped to the finish line with a very unproductive end of the season, but the majority of his games were very impressive for a Freshman.
Cody Williams Game Log - College Basketball | FOX Sports
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3.9 BPM is absolutely horrific for a first-round pick, one of the worst BPMs of any player picked in the top 10 ever.
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Cody gonna get assigned to the Pop-a-shot at the local Dave and Busters if he don't pick up his play a little.
What is the formula for calculating BPM and how does that calculation get effected by Cody's situation at Colorado last year?
Don't know how specific you would like to be, but the idea of BPM is to use box score numbers to predict APM (adjusted plus minutes). Can get more detailed if you'd like, but that's the important part. I don't necessarily know what was so unique about Cody's situation at COL, but nothing really jumps out as a reason to think his situation was extra favorable or unfavorable.
HadAnEffectHere
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This is an example done with LeBron.
It is then adjusted for position and role (to reduce the BPM of ball handlers) and subtracted by around 8.
Basically, BPM really hated that Cody Williams made few threes, got few blocks or steals or rebounds, and had a lot of turnovers and didn't have high volume scoring.
These coefficients are taken from a regression using RAPM as the dependent variable and the box score statistics as the independent variable to try to determine how valuable getting a stat in each is.