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Revisiting the Spida Trade

The Jazz Wonderbra

The Jazz Wonderbra

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Assuming the Cavs new what we all know now about what they had in Lauri and Kessler... let's do a hypothetical re-visit of the spida trade

Who do the Cavs keep in a Redo of the trade? Kessler? Or Lauri? You can only keep one of them. Both come with their salary considerations (Lauri @ $17 million for 3 years blooming to $50 million - Kessler on his rookie scale contract with a pay raise coming when Jarrett Allen expires (roughly).

If they keep Lauri they trade Issac Okoro and Caris Lavert to match salary. If they keep Walker, they give us an extra 1st round swap (not sure they could).

What do the Cavs do?
 
Lauri, Sexton, ochai and like 4 or 5 draft picks for Donovan was the trade iirc.


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20251-OKCUTA's 1st round pick to OKC protected for selections 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026 (if UTA has not conveyed a 1st round pick to OKC by 2026, then UTA's obligation to OKC will be extinguished) [OKC-UTA, 7/30/2021; OKC-UTA, 1/4/2022]

Jazz need to suck next year too.
 
TheGoldStandard said:
If Donovan would have stayed in Utah, you keep a talent like that. I think he had one foot out the door. Based on that, the trade was excellent. Getting Lauri plus the picks was a good haul.
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Where could have gone? The Jazz misread the market because it was hard to see the Brunson thing in NYK happening. I doubt Donovan would have left.
 
Nuschler said:
20251-OKCUTA's 1st round pick to OKC protected for selections 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026 (if UTA has not conveyed a 1st round pick to OKC by 2026, then UTA's obligation to OKC will be extinguished) [OKC-UTA, 7/30/2021; OKC-UTA, 1/4/2022]

Jazz need to suck next year too.
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Enough’s enough already!!! We don’t have enough open roster spots for the 2025 incoming.

PS As much as I absolutely despise it, and consider it blatantly dishonest - sounds like we have to endure another year of this chicanery. The way that I understand our two pick swaps in 26 is that Cleveland and Minny are off the hook if our first conveys to OKC. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
 
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Nuschler said:
20251-OKCUTA's 1st round pick to OKC protected for selections 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026 (if UTA has not conveyed a 1st round pick to OKC by 2026, then UTA's obligation to OKC will be extinguished) [OKC-UTA, 7/30/2021; OKC-UTA, 1/4/2022]

Jazz need to suck next year too.
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if we blow the 2025 draft picks, like we have all the others, it shouldn't be a problem.
 
I think the FO decided that a full rebuild was needed and that Donovan, under contract for 2 more seasons before his Player Option, wouldn't fit or want to be part of it. So they preemptively traded him for as much haul as they could get. The fact that the Jazz had already traded Rudy and were taking offers on Mike and Bojan just shows that they had chosen to go a different direction.

I think the Jazz were expecting Donovan to opt out of his deal and leave Cleveland rather than sign an extension. This would have forced the Cavs to trade Donovan for 50 cents on the dollar.
 
I would say DM had 9 toes out the door... Just because his window to get to the Knicks appears to be mostly closed doesn't mean he was going to stay here.
 
DM was getting to be a real pain in the behind in Utah. There was his spat, real or not, with Rudy, the soap opera with the Jazz training and medical staff, his playing hero ball down the stretch and his playing defense in an optional fashion at times. I doubt he wanted to stay here.
 
Are Cavs now good enough to win a title?
If so what does Donovan have anything to complain about?
If winning a title in Cleveland was good enough for LeBron then it should be good enough for Donovan
 
I think Rudy was more likely to stick than Donovan. Jazz got a great haul out of both trades. Just have to hope for some bad luck for both organizations moving forward.

Lauri is a star. Sexton was a + acquisition and Ochai probably should’ve been given more burn before they traded him. We’ll have see how the picks actually turn out before we can fully grade it. If we get solid guys there, then it was a slam dunk.

I personally wanted to keep Donovan, but I don’t hate the outcome at this point.
 
More than anything else, I hated the halfway in-halfway out tank of ‘22. We might not have gotten Wembanyama, but definitely should’ve traded more vets earlier - even for weak assets coming back instead of trading Conley to the Wolves to facilitate the Lakers trade later. By the time that deal happened, the damage was done.
 
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