Is it not? Game is always changing and people model differently, I know that article came away with that, but I also know some have come to the conclusion that it is the most. I think it's healthy to have some subjectivity about this stuff, but 3FG%, volume, and FT%.....I think you're really missing something without considering all 3.
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Is it not? Game is always changing and people model differently, I know that article came away with that, but I also know some have come to the conclusion that it is the most. I think it's healthy to have some subjectivity about this stuff, but 3FG%, volume, and FT%.....I think you're really missing something without considering all 3.
I don't have a strong opinion on whether good for is a good or bad indicator....there's logic to both sides. Egor has good form and that's why he'll be good, someone like Anothy Black had busted form and people told me it could be fixed. Just hard to read much into. It's going to be a major red flag on Egor for me until he starts making more shots.
I think he's really similar to Giddey, not necessarily better or worse. I think his passing is as good and maybe his defensive effort as well, but his handle might be even worse than Giddey's. There's still a lot of season left so we'll see how he plays. It is concerning to me that his play against non mickey mouse competition has been so awful. If he continues to play this bad he could fall fairly far imo.
Those things, but additionally projecting how easily it will be for them to get shots off, so height, shooting speed, how comfortable they are taking contested shots, etc. There are lots of variables.
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The rest of the season is huge for him. The shot is such a big deal for players that I'm focused on that with him and I think it opens up a lot of the stuff for him. What I noticed when watching is he doesn't look to create much in iso and teams started blitzing or doubling the pick and roll actions and it resulted in some turnover or just go nowhere passes. He had some success attacking it sporadically but without confidence or the threat of a shot its hard to have a big offensive night for a player like him. The handle is good for a player of his size but not for a pg. I think the shot is the big swing skill that is hurting him in a few different ways. I guess what I am saying is I don't know if its the competition or just the shooting funk he is in (or that he is a bad shooter).
I think good form is an indicator in some ways. Their ability to get the shot off and make it consistent etc. Touch may only be measure by the ball going in the basket. And there are guys that don't have beautiful jumpers like Bane that are great shooters.
If the shot is there he doesn't have to be a full time pg type and I think it changes the value proposition quite a bit. I'd bet on it somewhere in the 8-15 range if he's there. PGs and centers tend to slide in the draft so he may end up being passed up a couple times.
The shot is critical for him (as it is with everyone), I also think his handle is maybe even more critical. "For his size" might be ok, but like you said it's definitely not good for a PG/someone who handles the ball a lot.
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Fair. I got excited with how well he shot out of the gate because the passing is awesome.
I think Ace has a top 4 spot on lock no matter what. Just too much obvious potential ina class of mostly mediocrity
I might honestly say he's a top 3 lock. I think Kas is better, but NBA I think he's going to be so hard for teams to pass up. Can't see anyone else besides Kas going ahead so top 4 is a sure thing.
Flagg/Harper/Kas/Bailey (not necessarily in that order) are pretty much a lock for top-4 to me. Bailey is multiple times more interesting to me if he’s playing aggressively and doing more than stopping the ball to take a spinning fadeaway in the midrange.
Those highlights from the last game were seriously popping and it would make sense for him to make rapid progress given his talent but also that he’s one of the youngest players in CBB.
How about comparing him to someone like Troy Murphy. Kevin Love was an elite rebounder and scorer from the mid-post and in. At his absolute peak, Kevin Love might have been a top-5 MVP candidate.
Edit: I looked it up, and Kevin Love was #6 in MVP voting in 2012 when he averaged 26/13/2.
Yeah, probably. He's trending in the right direction.
Outside of just the shot making, he's an incredible athlete with a frame that has a lot of potential.
Kasparas has been going off against Indiana. He has 19 pts and 4 asts at halftime.
Wolf is gonna rise.
Kasparas in the "big prize" tier for me.
Listened to a podcast on draft philosophy recently (not going to recommend, because it was way too meandering), but I though the guest's larger points were interesting:
- Too often we judge (esp. potential high) draft picks on how much talent we think they have as a #1 option. Yet for the majority, these skills are not going to really affect winning much, even if they end up as a #1 option (often on sub-par teams). Very, very few players are of the caliber to affect winning as a #1. Argued that Demar Derozan is likely better at scoring than most draftees we're trying to shoehorn in as a #1, yet his effect on winning is relatively small. Seemed to apply this even to Harper this year. He'd rather have players that are just good and well rounded than someone who can get their own (unless the latter is also a clear superstar).
- Made an argument that psychology has to be important in (professional) player observation. (Obviously this is something that we have novices have virtually no access to.)
- Seemed to be arguing that the wave of the future is getting as many players with no real weaknesses in their games, especially those with superior BBIQs.
- Made a strong argument that these types of no/few-weakness, strong BBIQ, quick processing players are really the types that have staying power and have real trade value (if an opportunity ever comes around to swap for the few generational types, for example). Gave example of Josh Hart (and someone else I'm forgetting now, maybe Marcus Smart? -- EDIT: it was Derrick White, not Smart).
- Generally argued that processing speed/ability is too underrated when applied to draft prospects.
- Too often we judge (esp. potential high) draft picks on how much talent we think they have as a #1 option. Yet for the majority, these skills are not going to really affect winning much, even if they end up as a #1 option (often on sub-par teams). Very, very few players are of the caliber to affect winning as a #1. Argued that Demar Derozan is likely better at scoring than most draftees we're trying to shoehorn in as a #1, yet his effect on winning is relatively small. Seemed to apply this even to Harper this year. He'd rather have players that are just good and well rounded than someone who can get their own (unless the latter is also a clear superstar).
- Made an argument that psychology has to be important in (professional) player observation. (Obviously this is something that we have novices have virtually no access to.)
- Seemed to be arguing that the wave of the future is getting as many players with no real weaknesses in their games, especially those with superior BBIQs.
- Made a strong argument that these types of no/few-weakness, strong BBIQ, quick processing players are really the types that have staying power and have real trade value (if an opportunity ever comes around to swap for the few generational types, for example). Gave example of Josh Hart (and someone else I'm forgetting now, maybe Marcus Smart? -- EDIT: it was Derrick White, not Smart).
- Generally argued that processing speed/ability is too underrated when applied to draft prospects.
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I have Ace at 4 currently, but it would really be difficult for me to get too excited about him on the Jazz. His passing and decision making are so bad right now.
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He's quite good