Jon Stewart returning to host the Daily Show
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Did you learn anything? Did the information penetrate? At the close of the segment, starting around the @15:10 point, Jon Stewart talked about the real causes. What he said was almost exactly what I wrote.
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“It is like a desert and someone decided to build a city there. A densely populated, albeit beautify city, in the middle of it”
-Jon Stewart
“Go forward several centuries and the hillsides are now housing developments”
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“…created the dangerous conditions that made a tragedy like this almost inevitable.”
-Jon Stewart
“[The fires there] are geographic inevitability.”
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“We are humans. We build [stuff] in difficult areas on the belief that we will figure out how to subdue god and nature.”
-Jon Stewart
“Where you get into trouble is when you have buildings in the geographic area of inevitable fire and you slash the fire suppression infrastructure. It isn't climate change. It is climate as it has always been forever in that geographic area, and blame for the burning buildings is to the cutting of the ability to hold back nature from doing what it has always done.”
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Nothing I wrote and nothing Jon Stewart said was pathetic extremist Right wing apologism. It was a set of facts intended to inform by providing a context to events. If Jon Stewart is the source for the exact same information, then at least there is someone who can communicate it.
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I don’t know. I haven’t watched it yet. Go back to school, why don’t you….did you know political fallout comes and goes? Let it fall where it may… Did I tell you I was interested in underlying causes? Yeah, I told you that.
“But there are bigger—far bigger—factors at play in the disaster, factors that have less to do with local politics and institutional preparedness and more to do with the existential matter of a planet grown sickly from climate change. A crisis that is feeding more and bigger storms and causing more and greater destruction—destruction that lawmakers and other leaders, here and around the world, still seem unable to muster the will to address. Here is the reality: The very metabolism of the Earth has been thrown off by an atmosphere choking on greenhouse gasses, and it will take more than political bickering to set things right. Another reality: Fixing the problem first requires understanding—and, even more fundamentally, accepting—the science. Only then can we implement policies and put in place protocols that help us both reduce the likelihood of more such crises and minimize the death and destruction when they ultimately do occur”
L.A. Fires Show the Reality of a World with 1.5°C of Warming
The planet crosses an important temperature threshold while wildfires ravage southern California.
Climate Change A Factor In Unprecedented LA Fires
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Clearly you aren't. You didn't even bother to watch the material you posted.
It genuinely seems the only supposed experts you will listen to are one who tell you everything is climate change or everything is Christian nationalist fascism. I can see through the way you write that you didn't always used to be that way. There was a time when you did take in information from a broad swath of sources. Why not now? Why did you stop?
In your own posted video, I've given you the time code to go straight to the information if you don't want to sit though the whole clip. You seem to find Jon Stewart an acceptable source. Why not open yourself up to learn something new?
I can give you a video from a scientist who breaks it all down. If you are genuinely interested in underlying causes, these are it.
Sadly, I know you won't watch it. I am being honest when I say that it makes me sad.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMG-ZEG_VU4
By executive order, it has been renamed "Martin Luther Trump Day"
Red
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Martin Luther King trumps Trump every day…
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Johnette Napalitano was a powerhouse fronting Concrete Blonde. I don't know that she is in my top-3 of 1990's female vocalists, but wow what a talent. The quality of the recording isn't that great but one of my favorite of her live performances with this one at the Jon Stewart show in 1993, with a 29-year old Jon Stewart and his friend Denis Leary.
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Outstanding opening bit from Jon Stewart this week. It is non-stop poking fun at the political left for their TDS.
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Why has California failed to prepare for these climate change disasters? They’ve been ringing that bell for decades yet they’ve done absolutely nothing to prepare? Completely inept leadership in that state.
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One Californian’s opinion….
Opinion: Los Angeles Fires Began on Federal Lands, So Why Is GOP Blaming California?
Both of the big Los Angeles fires started on federally managed land. Instead of blaming California, the Trump administration should follow through with disaster aid and make a massive fire safety investment in our state's public lands.
timesofsandiego.com
The blaze that turned Altadena to ash burned through the Angeles National Forest, managed by the U.S. Forest Service, which is part of the United States (you again!) Department of Agriculture.
Let’s be clear: Our firelands are actually your firelands. And you’ve managed your California land so poorly for so long — suppressing fire instead of managing it, letting fuels accumulate, providing insufficient personnel to handle our national parks, forests, wilderness, and recreation areas — that you’ve helped turn California into a tinderbox.
When you and your leadership — President Trump, House Speaker Mike Johnson, members of Congress — blame California’s land management for our fires, you aren’t just lying or playing dirty politics. You’re trying to shift blame.
And we can see through you and your bad faith.
Now, if you had any honor — which you don’t, but let’s just say you did for the sake of argument — you wouldn’t just provide us with all the disaster aid we need, right now. You’d announce that you were going to make major new investments in federal land management in California and across the country. After all, you own more than a quarter of all the land in the United States.
Instead, you are shamelessly working to make your land management even worse.
Project 2025, the governing blueprint devised by the leaders of the new administration, outlines deep cuts to the already-diminished number of federal workers, which would exacerbate understaffing and poor management on federal lands. The cuts are now beginning, with a federal hiring and funding freeze preventing the U.S. Department of Agriculture and other federal agencies from filling positions, including wildland firefighting roles, and putting public lands projects in jeopardy. Project 2025 also calls for boosting the number of gas and mining leases, reducing prescribed burning, and increasing logging — all measures which will make public lands more fire-prone and less resilient.
You propose to do all this, while your administration, run by climate deniers, rolls back green energy infrastructure and investment, and encourages more climate-altering burning of fossil fuels.
You and your current regime better hope hell isn’t hotter than our mega-fires.
Mongoose
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So it’s the fault of the federal government that has been run by democrats 12 of the last 16 years?One Californian’s opinion….
Opinion: Los Angeles Fires Began on Federal Lands, So Why Is GOP Blaming California?
Both of the big Los Angeles fires started on federally managed land. Instead of blaming California, the Trump administration should follow through with disaster aid and make a massive fire safety investment in our state's public lands.
The blaze that turned Altadena to ash burned through the Angeles National Forest, managed by the U.S. Forest Service, which is part of the United States (you again!) Department of Agriculture.
Let’s be clear: Our firelands are actually your firelands. And you’ve managed your California land so poorly for so long — suppressing fire instead of managing it, letting fuels accumulate, providing insufficient personnel to handle our national parks, forests, wilderness, and recreation areas — that you’ve helped turn California into a tinderbox.
When you and your leadership — President Trump, House Speaker Mike Johnson, members of Congress — blame California’s land management for our fires, you aren’t just lying or playing dirty politics. You’re trying to shift blame.
And we can see through you and your bad faith.
Now, if you had any honor — which you don’t, but let’s just say you did for the sake of argument — you wouldn’t just provide us with all the disaster aid we need, right now. You’d announce that you were going to make major new investments in federal land management in California and across the country. After all, you own more than a quarter of all the land in the United States.
Instead, you are shamelessly working to make your land management even worse.
Project 2025, the governing blueprint devised by the leaders of the new administration, outlines deep cuts to the already-diminished number of federal workers, which would exacerbate understaffing and poor management on federal lands. The cuts are now beginning, with a federal hiring and funding freeze preventing the U.S. Department of Agriculture and other federal agencies from filling positions, including wildland firefighting roles, and putting public lands projects in jeopardy. Project 2025 also calls for boosting the number of gas and mining leases, reducing prescribed burning, and increasing logging — all measures which will make public lands more fire-prone and less resilient.
You propose to do all this, while your administration, run by climate deniers, rolls back green energy infrastructure and investment, and encourages more climate-altering burning of fossil fuels.
You and your current regime better hope hell isn’t hotter than our mega-fires.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utl2uLh1wVI&pp=ygUfdGhlIGRhaWx5IHNob3cgd2l0aCBqb24gc3Rld2FydA%3D%3D
Jon Stewart Slices His Hand Open During Live Broadcast While Tearing Into Elon Musk’s DOGE Cuts: ‘We’re Getting F*cked!’
Stewart was left bleeding while he unloaded on Elon Musk’s DOGE after he smashed a porcelain cup and sliced open his fingers in the process.
www.mediaite.com
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA-AJiC-Yk4
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There is no chance the Dems have learned anything. Right now, today, they are upset that non-citizen terrorists are being removed from the country. Tren De Aragua are notorious killers and human traffickers. There is literally video of Tren De Aragua members taking over buildings in Colorado and extorting money from American residents under threat of violence. Democrats are making clear to everyone who will listen that they stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Tren De Aragua, and are seeking to have them returned to the United States.
Seriously, Democrats! WTF????
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Yes, now is the time that tries men’s souls, and that’s when I always expect Democrats to be found agonizing, and doing nothing.
But in this instance, your reason is off, no doubt to imply Democrats love blood thirsty terrorists and only wish there were 10’s of thousands more in our country.
I don’t think so. The concern was over does a president have to follow the orders of a federal judge? And Trump’s attack on the judge, calls for his impeachment was wrong. As was Musk saying the same: impeach him.
So, here you clearly are both right and wrong. Democrats are floundering. That much is very true. And does not surprise me in the least. But what is happening is a developing constitutional crisis, and not at all a case of Democrats have the attitude “the more terrorists, the better!”.
Also under debate was using the 1798 Enemies Alien Act.
This was not about Democrats hoping for more terrorists. It was about federal court orders and using the Enemies Alien Act. If you think your comment sheds genuine light on the incident, well, you didn’t that I can see.
Plenty of articles describing this developing constitutional crisis, Chief Justice Robert’s take, etc., the 1798 Act, etc., so I will just add these articles instead. Sympathy from affected families is to be expected, of course, but without a real breakdown of who was who on the flight to El Salvador, it would not surprise me if they do have a case…
Families of migrants who believe their relatives were deported by ICE say they weren't gang members
Family members of two Venezuelan migrants who they believe were among those deported to El Salvador under the Alien Enemies Act say they weren't gang members.
abcnews.go.com
Families of deported Venezuelans are distraught their loved ones were sent to El Salvador
The White House has invoked the Alien Enemies Act and alleged that those who were removed were linked to a gang, a claim their families strongly reject.
www.nbcnews.com
Family says Venezuelan man deported, accused of being gang member has no criminal history
A federal judge pressed a Department of Justice lawyer Monday over why the Trump administration ignored his order regarding the deportation of hundreds of alleged Venezuelan gang members. And now officials say that those deported may have been charged with crimes, but not necessarily convicted...
www.nbcmiami.com
Having watched coverage of their arrival, their treatment, and the conditions, while it’s no real skin off my hide, I hate thinking any innocent men were included in the flight.
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If the judge does not enter the directive into the court order, then no it does not have to be followed. The law is obsessive over dotted 'I's and crossed 'T's. I have no doubt this judge is not happy to have his incompetence put on full display in front of the entire country, but the reality is the court order did not require the planes be turned around.
I also don't think my reason is off even the tiniest bit. The democrats will support anything, ANYTHING that appears to be a setback for the Trump administration even if the end result would be for 10’s of thousands more Tren De Aragua terrorists in our country. The democrats have gone full retard. They went from the party led by Bill Clinton playing a saxophone on Arsenio Hall, to the party that claims math is racist and they don't know what a woman is. The democrats went so full retard that America looked at them, and looked at Trump, and concluded Trump was the sane choice. Even now, CNN polling has democrats at 29% approval. Then NBC came on two days later to say "no", democrats are down to 27% approval. That point was even mentioned by Jon Stewart.
At a certain point, I'd hope the democrats would rediscover the wisdom of when finding themselves in a hole to stop digging. I would have thought that just maybe demanding Tren De Aragua terrorists be brought back to the United States would have been so far beyond the mark that maybe we'd see a glimmer of sanity return to democrats, but nope. Democrats are full onboard with backing the idea the district judge meant to put an instruction in a court order and so even though it wasn't so ordered officially, the Trump administration should bring back the Tren De Aragua terrorists. WTF? Really???
Is there any bridge that is too far for lefties?