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Edgecombe will beat his defender. What happens next is a bit of a question, but he should at least draw fouls. If nothing else, he's bigger and bouncier than Collin Sexton, so he'll put more pressure on the rim and get defenders backpedalling. His development depends on improving his ability to play on the ball and make decisions. As it stands, he'll fly to the rim on cuts and probably make enough 3s to be considered a 3D guard.

I had him projected to go 7 - 9. Maybe he goes a spot or two ahead of that, like 6 or 7.
 
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Ferguson_Mellochill said:
His development depends on improving his ability to play on the ball and make decisions. As it stands, he'll fly to the rim on cuts and probably make enough 3s to be considered a 3D guard.
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I have no idea why people don't trust VJ's ballhandling – or trust it to develop to the level of a starting NBA combo guard.

His dribbling is not showy. He's not a ball pounder, which is a great sign in a young, hyper athletic guard. Edgecombe only dribbles when there's a purpose, and he's just as happy cutting and moving without the ball. Another great sign.

In fact, that's probably why I love watching him. Just a natural baller who moves like he was made in a lab to play this sport and understands how the game moves.
 
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Edgecombe will beat his defender. What happens next is a bit of a question, but he should at least draw fouls. If nothing else, he's bigger and bouncier than Collin Sexton, so he'll put more pressure on the rim and get defenders backpedalling. His development depends on improving his ability to play on the ball and make decisions. As it stands, he'll fly to the rim on cuts and probably make enough 3s to be considered a 3D guard.

I had him projected to go 7 - 9. Maybe he goes a spot or two ahead of that, like 6 or 7.
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Esgecombe does not beat his defender with any regularity. If he's attacking a rotating defense he can make some athletic plays, but he isnt beating set defenses off his own creation
 
Edgecombe is my leader for the 5th spot after the top 4. His conference play performance is encouraging. I really don't have a strong argument for anyone else, but Traore and Tre Johnson would be in that conversation.
 
OK -- let me ask a really stupid question (as someone who hasn't really watched college games):

Why isn't Scottie Barnes used more often as a comparison for Flagg? All of the comparisons I've seen seem off in important ways, so I'm a little surprised that I haven't really seen Barnes as a comparison in terms of size, style, versatility? Hopefully Flagg is better, but he Barnes seems as close as most to how we might envision Flagg fitting in on a team.
 
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idiot said:
OK -- let me ask a really stupid question (as someone who hasn't really watched college games):

Why isn't Scottie Barnes used more often as a comparison for Flagg? All of the comparisons I've seen seem off in important ways, so I'm a little surprised that I haven't really seen Barnes as a comparison in terms of size, style, versatility? Hopefully Flagg is better, but he Barnes seems as close as most to how we might envision Barnes fitting in on a team.
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Flagg shoots better, facilitates better and generally plays harder. I've heard the Barnes comp for Flagg before, but Flagg has a presence and impact on the game that puts him in a higher tier as a prospect than Barnes for me. There are some similarities though.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Flagg shoots better, facilitates better and generally plays harder. I've heard the Barnes comp for Flagg before, but Flagg has a presence and impact on the game that puts him in a higher tier as a prospect than Barnes for me.
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It's impossible to make that comparison until Flagg gets to the league. Only then do we know what he really can and can't do. The game is totally different.
 
idiot said:
OK -- let me ask a really stupid question (as someone who hasn't really watched college games):

Why isn't Scottie Barnes used more often as a comparison for Flagg? All of the comparisons I've seen seem off in important ways, so I'm a little surprised that I haven't really seen Barnes as a comparison in terms of size, style, versatility? Hopefully Flagg is better, but he Barnes seems as close as most to how we might envision Barnes fitting in on a team.
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He is used as a comp quite often
 
idiot said:
OK -- let me ask a really stupid question (as someone who hasn't really watched college games):

Why isn't Scottie Barnes used more often as a comparison for Flagg? All of the comparisons I've seen seem off in important ways, so I'm a little surprised that I haven't really seen Barnes as a comparison in terms of size, style, versatility? Hopefully Flagg is better, but he Barnes seems as close as most to how we might envision Flagg fitting in on a team.
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He is, and it makes sense to some extent. Probably the most common comparison I saw when Flagg had started slowly. Flagg has risen his level of play so significantly, however, and while they're archetype is similar Flagg is a completely different class as a prospect. Flagg's production, efficiency, effectiveness etc. dwarfs Scottie's production and Flagg is doing so at a much younger age.
 
KqWIN said:
He is, and it makes sense to some extent. Probably the most common comparison I saw when Flagg had started slowly. Flagg has risen his level of play so significantly, however, and while they're archetype is similar Flagg is a completely different class as a prospect. Flagg's production, efficiency, effectiveness etc. dwarfs Scottie's production and Flagg is doing so at a much younger age.
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this illustrates how we need to be careful with comparisons with draft prospects. they may be the same size, similar athleticism, similar strengths and weaknesses, play the same position etc (and i'm talking about all players, not just Flagg and Barnes), but ultimately they are still different people and different players (even if we struggle to see or explain why) and you simply can't project one guy on to the other guy. as you say, in spite of their similarities (there are enough where the comp is apt), Flagg has been so much better already than Barnes while being more than a full year younger as freshmen in college.
 
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this illustrates how we need to be careful with comparisons with draft prospects. they may be the same size, similar athleticism, similar strengths and weaknesses, play the same position etc (and i'm talking about all players, not just Flagg and Barnes), but ultimately they are still different people and different players (even if we struggle to see or explain why) and you simply can't project one guy on to the other guy. as you say, in spite of their similarities (there are enough where the comp is apt), Flagg has been so much better already than Barnes while being more than a full year younger as freshmen in college.
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We tend to make mountains out of molehills with comparisons.
 
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