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Tremendous Upside said:
I really hope we manage to dodge a situation where we "have" to take Bailey.

The lack of athleticism and ballhandling is such a red flag for a supposed "pure scorer". In the league, he's gonna be a spot up shooter who can't guard his position. Period.

Bailey is just 6'8'' with zero bounce, which means that he'll have a lot of trouble just shooting over people in the NBA. He's being guarded by 6'5'' guys in college, but that will change.

This kid can still become a useful NBA player since shooting is a premium skill, but you have to run complicated actions to get him free and hide him on defense. In other words, a role player. No thanks.

Perfect player for a contender with the other pieces already in place, though.
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What in the hell is wrong with you? In no world does Bailey lack athleticism and have zero bounce.
 
Ace is making way more shots now, but man, this is the hardest shot diet I've seen from a prospect in a really long time.

I guess him shooting 42% from three on heavily contested threes is actually more impressive because wow, there's no separation here, lol.
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
Ace is making way more shots now, but man, this is the hardest shot diet I've seen from a prospect in a really long time.

I guess him shooting 42% from three on heavily contested threes is actually more impressive because wow, there's no separation here, lol.
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This.

If you get zero separation in college, you're gonna be in big trouble in the NBA. You'll need a system around you, designed to get you shots. Hey, it's not the end of the world. But that means you're not a top 3 pick in a draft like this.

Ace is a talented maker of tough shots, that much is clear. But that's very much a backhanded compliment. As a top prospect, he shouldn't have to be working this hard to score against NCAA defenders.

Good skill to have, but shouldn't be your main skill.
 
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Tremendous Upside said:
I really hope we manage to dodge a situation where we "have" to take Bailey.

The lack of athleticism and ballhandling is such a red flag for a supposed "pure scorer". In the league, he's gonna be a spot up shooter who can't guard his position. Period.

Bailey is just 6'8'' with zero bounce, which means that he'll have a lot of trouble just shooting over people in the NBA. He's being guarded by 6'5'' guys in college, but that will change.

This kid can still become a useful NBA player since shooting is a premium skill, but you have to run complicated actions to get him free and hide him on defense. In other words, a role player. No thanks.

Perfect player for a contender with the other pieces already in place, though.
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Spoken like somebody who has never watched him play. And if you have watched a significant amount - and still hold some of these opinions, even more embarrassing.
 
My top 10

Flagg
Bailey
Kasparas
Harper
Edgecombe
Johnson
Traore
Saraf
Fears
Maluach

There are a few just on the edge that I really like

Flemming
McNeeley
Knueppel
Bryant
Gonzalez
Sorber
Essengue
Demin
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
While Im not a Bailey guy, I would not be mad at drafting him. As a Kasper fan, I'd probably have to concede drafting Bailey over him is a no brainer.
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Same opinion here. He is not my type of prospect, but he is still extremely impressive in the areas he’s good at. I actually can’t remember the last time we’ve had a prospect this good at pure shotmaking.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
VJ seems to like playing in Utah (Scored 28 vs BYU and 21 vs Utah). I think he has decent passing and vision for a guard, it's really just his ball handling that need some work. I wish he had a longer wingspan so I could fully buy in to him as a defensive prospect at the next level.

View: https://youtu.be/sJa8XMyDXTQ?si=i330Ff7w_Ta4SyQH


View: https://youtu.be/nmneHj2ayrI?si=G2ovuaHGojg5bYyA
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Some really strong NBA defenders are in the lower half of the wingspan percentiles. So I think I'd not use wingspan as a leading indicator for defensive potential, but just one of others.
 
My hope is for Flag or Harper with our pick obviously, but I want Johni Broome out of Auburn with the Wolves pick. I never hear much about him on here, but until his injury, he was arguably player of the year and now he is back and playing great again. Sure he is a senior, but he would be an amazing pickup in the late teens or early 20s.
 
idiot said:
Some really strong NBA defenders are in the lower half of the wingspan percentiles. So I think I'd not use wingspan as a leading indicator for defensive potential, but just one of others.
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I'm not sure there has ever been a good answer on how much wingspan actually matters. I think long wingspan is obviously better than a shorter one, but the extent to which it matters is unclear and it's also not clear when it's actually the primary thing driving success. I consider it and used to be one of those guys who would agonize over every measurement, but now I try to take a step back and evaluate the things that wingspan is supposed to help with. Same goes for other athletic/physical traits.
 
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