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The *OFFICIAL* Russia Is About To Invade Ukraine Thread

LogGrad98 said:
Just FYI, the dude's just a troll. He undoubtedly knows all this he just gets his jollies off people flipping out over his stupidity.
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So true.

It’s also pretty sad that people like him exist. People so broken and so desperate for attention that they’d do what they do day in and day out. I can’t imagine it does much good for the soul.
 
The Thriller said:
So true.

It’s also pretty sad that people like him exist. People so broken and so desperate for attention that they’d do what they do day in and day out. I can’t imagine it does much good for the soul.
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Haha!! What are you talking about? You’ve spent your entire adult life circle jerking about Trump hate on a sports forum. You’ve wasted countless months and years here all day every day. I come here once in a while to rile you idiots up. You have no idea what I do day in and day out, but I know what you do. You waste your time here all day every day, for years.
 
Not sure if there is any truth to this. It’s The Sun, so that is a sensationalized headline, and then some. Source said to be Danish intelligence.

www.the-sun.com

Spy intel reveals Putin arming for 'large-scale' war that will trigger WW3

A DIRE warning has been issued that Vladimir Putin is looking to start a major war in Europe within five years, according to bombshell spy intel. Intelligence from Denmark has assessed the Russian …
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KYIV — President Donald Trump’s phone call to Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday has deeply rattled Kyiv and its European partners, triggering long-held fears that Ukraine could be excluded from the peace talks determining its own future and security — as well as that of the rest of the continent.

Trump, who spoke to Putin on Wednesday and then phoned Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to inform him of the call, said that he and his Russian counterpart will soon try to meet in Saudi Arabia without the Ukrainian leader.

The announcement of the Trump-Putin call, which made no mention of Europe, and a pending meeting between the two men also play into European leaders’ fears that their defense interests will fall by the wayside if Trump has direct talks with Russia. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Thursday it was “premature” to discuss a role for Europe in any talks.

Zelensky has long insisted that talks to end the war must include Ukraine, and European leaders have said they need to include Europe. Zelensky has also pushed for Ukraine to be granted either NATO membership or equivalent security guarantees. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced Wednesday that returning to Ukraine’s pre-2014 borders is unrealistic, that NATO membership should not be on the table and that U.S. troops in Ukraine would not be part of any security guarantee.
 
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Not sure if there is any truth to this. It’s The Sun, so that is a sensationalized headline, and then some. Source said to be Danish intelligence.

www.the-sun.com

Spy intel reveals Putin arming for 'large-scale' war that will trigger WW3

A DIRE warning has been issued that Vladimir Putin is looking to start a major war in Europe within five years, according to bombshell spy intel. Intelligence from Denmark has assessed the Russian …
www.the-sun.com www.the-sun.com


KYIV — President Donald Trump’s phone call to Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday has deeply rattled Kyiv and its European partners, triggering long-held fears that Ukraine could be excluded from the peace talks determining its own future and security — as well as that of the rest of the continent.

Trump, who spoke to Putin on Wednesday and then phoned Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to inform him of the call, said that he and his Russian counterpart will soon try to meet in Saudi Arabia without the Ukrainian leader.

The announcement of the Trump-Putin call, which made no mention of Europe, and a pending meeting between the two men also play into European leaders’ fears that their defense interests will fall by the wayside if Trump has direct talks with Russia. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Thursday it was “premature” to discuss a role for Europe in any talks.

Zelensky has long insisted that talks to end the war must include Ukraine, and European leaders have said they need to include Europe. Zelensky has also pushed for Ukraine to be granted either NATO membership or equivalent security guarantees. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced Wednesday that returning to Ukraine’s pre-2014 borders is unrealistic, that NATO membership should not be on the table and that U.S. troops in Ukraine would not be part of any security guarantee.
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So Ukraine will be as far as possible denied a seat at the table. The US will meet with Putin and will divide Ukraine according to their own interests. What does that look like for Ukrainians? It will mean signing over the mineral and energy wealth of the country to the US for nothing, with the lose guarantee of protection. That will be the best offer they get from Trump. Or they can fight on without US support, the ****ing Europeans should look at this situation with abject shame.
 
The Thriller said:
Everything is transactional.

How is this any different than Putin? Or the mafia? I hate this man and his followers so much

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Trump officials pitch Zelenskyy on U.S. owning 50% of Ukraine's rare earth minerals

The Trump administration indicated U.S. troops could be deployed to provide security in connection with the minerals if there’s a peace deal with Russia, sources told NBC News.
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Wow I agree with you! I hate Zelenskyy and his followers, but Zelenskyy is much worse then a mafia boss. He’s a dictator who wants to burn his own country to the ground so he can rule over the ashes. He’s a dictator with Nazi followers and he’s trying to bring down as much as Europe as he can with him.


View: https://x.com/lisaobie/status/1890801372058014045?s=46&t=PfGBft52CF1a98VsjZzilw
 
The Thriller said:
Everything is transactional.

How is this any different than Putin? Or the mafia? I hate this man and his followers so much

www.nbcnews.com

Trump officials pitch Zelenskyy on U.S. owning 50% of Ukraine's rare earth minerals

The Trump administration indicated U.S. troops could be deployed to provide security in connection with the minerals if there’s a peace deal with Russia, sources told NBC News.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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50 percent? i expected him to demand 100, in other news the Europeans will not be part of any peace talks.
 
This article is so good that I’m gifting it. Musk is making it impossible for Europeans to conduct free and fair elections. Just as he has taken over the American system, now he’s attempting to take over the Europeans electoral systems. How can a country have a free and fair election when the world’s richest man also owns one of the world’s largest information platforms? His tweets get 100x more views than the BBC, NY Times, or NPR articles will ever get.

www.theatlantic.com

The Rise of Techno-authoritarianism

Silicon Valley has its own ascendant political ideology. It’s past time we call it what it is.
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The Thriller said:
This article is so good that I’m gifting it. Musk is making it impossible for Europeans to conduct free and fair elections. Just as he has taken over the American system, now he’s attempting to take over the Europeans electoral systems. How can a country have a free and fair election when the world’s richest man also owns one of the world’s largest information platforms? His tweets get 100x more views than the BBC, NY Times, or NPR articles will ever get.

www.theatlantic.com

The Rise of Techno-authoritarianism

Silicon Valley has its own ascendant political ideology. It’s past time we call it what it is.
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com
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Couldn't read the whole thing. But this is why I'm not on any of these platforms. Facebook is evil and I've known it for more than a decade. But the big problem is no one can or will do anything about it. Some countries in the EU try to limit it and put some regulations on it, but America won't because we are just that dumb. Same goes for all the other social media platforms, and double for twitter. Americans are the proverbial frog being boiled alive, but the water has long ago run out and we are currently headed to well-done. Because, to put it in Zuckerberg's words, we're all dumb ****s.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Couldn't read the whole thing. But this is why I'm not on any of these platforms. Facebook is evil and I've known it for more than a decade. But the big problem is no one can or will do anything about it. Some countries in the EU try to limit it and put some regulations on it, but America won't because we are just that dumb. Same goes for all the other social media platforms, and double for twitter. Americans are the proverbial frog being boiled alive, but the water has long ago run out and we are currently headed to well-done. Because, to put it in Zuckerberg's words, we're all dumb ****s.
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The TL;DR version is:

1. Your average candidate can give speeches, make videos, and do write ups reaching maybe thousands of people.
2. Your party can promote you and the party’s ideas maybe reaching thousands of people.
3. Most local papers are dead, so they’re not reaching anyone. The top papers right now, like The NY Times, reach a pretty limited amount of subscribers.
3. Teevee is so scattered right now that unless you’re on Fox News prime time, you’re not reaching many people.

Conventional ways of communicating your message and conducting a campaign is over.

4. Elon Musk’s tweets? Get millions of views. Combine that with his resources of getting onto podcasts, manipulating algorithms, and just spending millions (he spent over $250 million for Trump) he alone can control election systems of entire European counties. His money, fame, and social media/podcast presence outweighs the combined power of political parties and their candidates, teevee ads, and newspapers. Europe has seen the destruction he has wrought In America and are desperately trying to keep him, his money, and his algorithms out of Europe.
 
European nations need to start building nukes. If America refuses to stand up to Russia over Ukraine, then Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Denmark, Germany, etc need to start developing nukes and fast. It’s really the only way to guarantee their safety against both Russia and Trump.
 
The United States going Strongman, and aligning with Putin, must be part of the New World Order they warned us about…
 
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