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It was an AI video of "Trump Gaza" vision, starring Elon Musk, a floating Trump head, hotels, cash flying around, and it can be found from all over the internet. I first thought it was fake when I saw it in bluesky
Trump Dictatorship and All Things Politics
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This Executive Order Reveals the Trump-Musk Endgame
A recent order aimed at destroying independent regulatory agencies isn’t just about taking control of the state—it’s a giant cash-grab in disguise.
www.thenation.com
The orders and actions of Donald Trump and his copresident Elon Musk are all part of a piece. The most obvious goal is to establish authoritarian, single-party control in the United States of America, and we know that because they wrote down their plan in Project 2025 and have been executing that plan every day since they took office. But we should understand why they want such power.
It’s not just so they can win the culture wars; Trump and Musk are misogynists and provable racists, but their hatred of women and Black people (and gay people and trans people and Latino people and Muslim people and truth and science and journalism and fact-based reality) are all just their means to an end. The thing Trump and Musk value most of all is money. Their entire regime is best understood as a criminal junta whose end goal is to redirect the wealth of the nation into their own pockets. They are running a kleptocracy, and they’ve figured out that facism is actually the quickest path to riches. They’re the encapsulation of Alan Rickman’s portrayal of Hans Gruber, the villain in Die Hard, taken to its logical conclusion. They talk like megalomaniacal populists, but they’re really just common thieves—or, well, exceptional thieves, given their success rate.
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I posted the clip in comment #2271 of this thread…,
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So here is one place he is rewriting our foundations. It failed but the attempt sure does support intent.
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You do know that the AI infrastructure thing was in the works since last year at this time, right? It is not a Trump thing. It just happened now, and the billionaires spent time kissing his *** for it to get in his good graces, as usual.
So as long as he doesn't do anything to keep companies from hurting consumers, so they have free reign to do what they want, they love him for it. No **** Sherlock. Of course they do. The last thing company's want is to be held to account. Hence why DOGE is frantically trying to destroy any and all regulatory bodies in the federal government, which brings up the next topic.
DOGE has been a spectacular failure. Best estimates is that thousands of lives have been disrupted to save a grand total of 3-5 DAYS of deficit spending, and eliminating needed resources and government agencies, hence the immediate backpedaling in many areas, such as the forest service. Just from the top google option, a local paper, but this is happening all over the country.
Some National Park and Forest service jobs restored. More seasonal hires promised.
In Colorado, a handful of firings appear to have been reversed, including the timber strike team, but Florissant Fossil Beds has pared hours
coloradosun.com
Nearly 40% of DOGE’s canceled contracts expected to yield no savings
DOGE claims to have found $65 billion in federal government savings so far, but more than 400 contracts worth millions of dollars are drawing questions.
DOGE Claimed It Saved $8 Billion in One Contract. It Was Actually $8 Million.
The biggest single line item on the website of Elon Musk’s cost-cutting team included a big error.
DOGE Removes Biggest Spending Cuts From Wall Of Receipts; Here’s What It Could Mean For DOGE Dividend Checks
Elon Musk's DOGE removed the five biggest spending cuts from its "wall of receipts." Here's what it means for potential DOGE Dividend checks.
www.forbes.com
Note these "dividend checks" will do to the top taxpayers first. Middle and low income people won't get anything.
DOGE says it’s saved $55 billion, itemized data show far less
DOGE’s accounting raises questions about the reliability of their self-reporting and their level of accountability.
Nearly 40% of contracts canceled by Musk's DOGE are expected to produce no savings
Nearly 40% of the federal contracts that President Donald Trump’s administration claims to have canceled as part of its signature cost-cutting program aren’t expected to save the government any money, the administration’s data shows.
apnews.com
Opinion | DOGE’s mass firings will only make government less efficient
When you treat federal workers like garbage, you won’t attract America’s best and brightest to work for you.
www.msnbc.com
And everyone with a functioning brain knows this is the real goal of all this. Make it chaotic to hope it hides these kinds of moves in the chaos.
Federal agency investigating Elon Musk's Tesla hit with DOGE layoffs
The federal agency that regulates vehicle and traffic safety, which has been investigating Elon Musk's Tesla, has laid off about 4% of its workforce.
www.usatoday.com
Musk has laid off many people in agencies investigating his companies for illegal practices, effectively ending the investigations. Do you approve of this?
How does any of this make us more efficient when we eliminate hundreds of years of combined experience in these agencies. Not to mention things like the impact on medical research, laying off employees at the IRS during tax season sure does seem covnenient for the rich who may want to avoid audits, where the country historically has recovered significant revenues, now they won't have the staff to conduct those audits.
You seriously see this as a positive? Then it is clear you are a lacky and nothing more. That is about enough to discount anything else you may say. How do you spin this for a positive? You are buying the conspiracy theory that everyone laid off were corrupt and stealing money or whatever BS they are peddling now?
Sovereign wealth fund, or how to enrich the billionaires, step 1.
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www.americanprogress.org
How will they fund it? Most of these around the world are funded by budget surpluses. *D'OH*
Next, where will they invest it? Surprise surprise but the guy Trump appointed to commerce secretary wants to invest in bitcoin, and, hey, he just happens to hold a lot of bit coin! They can really push that value up if they do that, he will get rich(er)! And why don't they invest in Tesla as well! Just drive those assets up dramatically! You know, for the good of the country. *HA HA HA HA HA HA*, I almost said that with a straight face. Seriously where will they invest it? Most countries have independent oversight of their SWFs so they do not do exactly that, do you really think Trump will allow that? He will want the entire thing invested in his new stock thing. Pay the billionaires first.
Third, how will they use it? Will they have walls between the fund, the fund managers, an oversight committee, and the coffers of the republican party? Highly doubtful.
So yeah, I will give you a "remains to be seen" on that one.
So, tariffs on steel and aluminum. I mean tell us you have zero understanding of basic economics without telling us you have zero understanding of basic economics.
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One of the biggest failings of the Biden administration was keeping the tariffs Trump imposed in his first term. This really hurt the economy and will continue to do so as these are increased, just generally speaking.
Tracking the Economic Impact of the Trump Tariffs
President Trump's 25 percent tariffs on Canada and Mexico is estimated to reduce long-run GDP by 0.2 percent, reduce hours worked by 223,000 full-time equivalent jobs, and reduce after-tax incomes by an average of 0.6 percent—before accounting for foreign retaliation.
taxfoundation.org
Tracking the Economic Impact of the Trump Tariffs
President Trump's 25 percent tariffs on Canada and Mexico is estimated to reduce long-run GDP by 0.2 percent, reduce hours worked by 223,000 full-time equivalent jobs, and reduce after-tax incomes by an average of 0.6 percent—before accounting for foreign retaliation.
taxfoundation.org
And do not forget, these tariffs are a direct tax on the American people, and on no one else. They will raise revenue for the government, absolutely, by taking it from the american people. No foreign country pays a single penny in tariffs. It is all paid domestically. And yes, it will raise prices, and potentially lower volumes, as demand shifts to the new price points, meaning for a lot of companies operating on already thin margins, they effectively break even or even lose money on the deal. But a few will make bank on it, since they can opportunistically raise prices beyond the tariff increases and keep the prices there. This, by the way, hurts americans, and especially lower income americans the most. It will also likely result in the loss of jobs as demand thins to match the new price points.
As far as immigration goes, it is has been nothing short of a fiasco, from threatening, and even rounding up, expulsions of legal native americans, to the idea of creating a task force populated by regular citizens with guns, to the ignoring of the impact of a shrinking population, to simply the human rights issues, this has been nothing short of disastrous.
Take just the shrinking population issue. We are not creating enough new americans to replace the ones who are dying, so our overall labor pool is shrinking. This means less people to collect taxes from. And jobs needing workers with less workers to go around potentially down the road. Also, keep in mind that social security is basically a legal ponzi scheme with no good replacement even in the dreams of anyone in power, and this is a problem that cannot be fixed by kicking people out who are needed to pay into the fund. Of course if they follow through on the threat to gut it, well problem solved, right? Expect for the millions of people it will hurt, but hey, it won't hurt even the top 20% at all, so who gives a **** about the bottom 80, amirite?
So this issue is not as cut and dried as it seems. Which is why no one has solved it yet, and this is really no solution at all. It is going into surgery with Musk's chainsaw. Bound to rip **** up, and do nothing good for the patient or anyone around them.
The reason to refute the claim is that you said "no they are not nazis" and we said "they sure as **** act like nazis" to which you basically said "nuh-uh" so I posted a clear demonstration, point by point, show how the Trump administration are heading down the path to fascism and said "then show that even one of these assertions is wrong". They all had supporting quotes and sources, so you had plenty of material to work with. But you just scoff at it. So apparently you are ok with Trump being fascist. That is about the only conclusion we can draw from that.
So now show me what "my tribe" is, because I belong to exactly one tribe, the one that says "NO" to fascism and "NO" to rewriting the constitution by fiat and that says "NO" to firing hundreds of thousands of people in the interest of the billionaires running the country. That is the only political tribe I am part of right now. And I think you will find people across america from every political letter-designator in this tribe. A family member of my wife just joined this tribe, and until Trump started ****ing with veteran affairs he was a die-hard Trumper. Now he is in my tribe. He still hate immigration, and thinks we should cut all kind of **** from the government and believes most of the conspiracies, but some of the current actions cut too close to home, so he joined us. So what "tribe" do you think it is I belong to? Before Trump I was "R" way more often than not. I am now a "never-Trump"er. What tribe is that then?
Dude you have been exposed. You are just a Trump acolyte, that is clear now. Thanks for the response. I think you can see it is hard to take you at face value when these are the positives you find in this administration. You are just thinly-veiled MAGA. Not a troll, I will give you that. But not that far removed either.
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Great post. Nailed it.This Executive Order Reveals the Trump-Musk Endgame
A recent order aimed at destroying independent regulatory agencies isn’t just about taking control of the state—it’s a giant cash-grab in disguise.
The orders and actions of Donald Trump and his copresident Elon Musk are all part of a piece. The most obvious goal is to establish authoritarian, single-party control in the United States of America, and we know that because they wrote down their plan in Project 2025 and have been executing that plan every day since they took office. But we should understand why they want such power.
It’s not just so they can win the culture wars; Trump and Musk are misogynists and provable racists, but their hatred of women and Black people (and gay people and trans people and Latino people and Muslim people and truth and science and journalism and fact-based reality) are all just their means to an end. The thing Trump and Musk value most of all is money. Their entire regime is best understood as a criminal junta whose end goal is to redirect the wealth of the nation into their own pockets. They are running a kleptocracy, and they’ve figured out that facism is actually the quickest path to riches. They’re the encapsulation of Alan Rickman’s portrayal of Hans Gruber, the villain in Die Hard, taken to its logical conclusion. They talk like megalomaniacal populists, but they’re really just common thieves—or, well, exceptional thieves, given their success rate.
It's just so obvious too.
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Great post.So here is one place he is rewriting our foundations. It failed but the attempt sure does support intent.
Loading…
www.npr.org
You do know that the AI infrastructure thing was in the works since last year at this time, right? It is not a Trump thing. It just happened now, and the billionaires spent time kissing his *** for it to get in his good graces, as usual.
So as long as he doesn't do anything to keep companies from hurting consumers, so they have free reign to do what they want, they love him for it. No **** Sherlock. Of course they do. The last thing company's want is to be held to account. Hence why DOGE is frantically trying to destroy any and all regulatory bodies in the federal government, which brings up the next topic.
DOGE has been a spectacular failure. Best estimates is that thousands of lives have been disrupted to save a grand total of 3-5 DAYS of deficit spending, and eliminating needed resources and government agencies, hence the immediate backpedaling in many areas, such as the forest service. Just from the top google option, a local paper, but this is happening all over the country.
Some National Park and Forest service jobs restored. More seasonal hires promised.
In Colorado, a handful of firings appear to have been reversed, including the timber strike team, but Florissant Fossil Beds has pared hours
Nearly 40% of DOGE’s canceled contracts expected to yield no savings
DOGE claims to have found $65 billion in federal government savings so far, but more than 400 contracts worth millions of dollars are drawing questions.www.fox7austin.com
DOGE Claimed It Saved $8 Billion in One Contract. It Was Actually $8 Million.
The biggest single line item on the website of Elon Musk’s cost-cutting team included a big error.www.nytimes.com
DOGE Removes Biggest Spending Cuts From Wall Of Receipts; Here’s What It Could Mean For DOGE Dividend Checks
Elon Musk's DOGE removed the five biggest spending cuts from its "wall of receipts." Here's what it means for potential DOGE Dividend checks.
Note these "dividend checks" will do to the top taxpayers first. Middle and low income people won't get anything.
DOGE says it’s saved $55 billion, itemized data show far less
DOGE’s accounting raises questions about the reliability of their self-reporting and their level of accountability.fortune.com
Nearly 40% of contracts canceled by Musk's DOGE are expected to produce no savings
Nearly 40% of the federal contracts that President Donald Trump’s administration claims to have canceled as part of its signature cost-cutting program aren’t expected to save the government any money, the administration’s data shows.
Opinion | DOGE’s mass firings will only make government less efficient
When you treat federal workers like garbage, you won’t attract America’s best and brightest to work for you.
And everyone with a functioning brain knows this is the real goal of all this. Make it chaotic to hope it hides these kinds of moves in the chaos.
Federal agency investigating Elon Musk's Tesla hit with DOGE layoffs
The federal agency that regulates vehicle and traffic safety, which has been investigating Elon Musk's Tesla, has laid off about 4% of its workforce.www.usatoday.com
Musk has laid off many people in agencies investigating his companies for illegal practices, effectively ending the investigations. Do you approve of this?
How does any of this make us more efficient when we eliminate hundreds of years of combined experience in these agencies. Not to mention things like the impact on medical research, laying off employees at the IRS during tax season sure does seem covnenient for the rich who may want to avoid audits, where the country historically has recovered significant revenues, now they won't have the staff to conduct those audits.
You seriously see this as a positive? Then it is clear you are a lacky and nothing more. That is about enough to discount anything else you may say. How do you spin this for a positive? You are buying the conspiracy theory that everyone laid off were corrupt and stealing money or whatever BS they are peddling now?
Sovereign wealth fund, or how to enrich the billionaires, step 1.
Loading…
www.americanprogress.org
How will they fund it? Most of these around the world are funded by budget surpluses. *D'OH*
Next, where will they invest it? Surprise surprise but the guy Trump appointed to commerce secretary wants to invest in bitcoin, and, hey, he just happens to hold a lot of bit coin! They can really push that value up if they do that, he will get rich(er)! And why don't they invest in Tesla as well! Just drive those assets up dramatically! You know, for the good of the country. *HA HA HA HA HA HA*, I almost said that with a straight face. Seriously where will they invest it? Most countries have independent oversight of their SWFs so they do not do exactly that, do you really think Trump will allow that? He will want the entire thing invested in his new stock thing. Pay the billionaires first.
Third, how will they use it? Will they have walls between the fund, the fund managers, an oversight committee, and the coffers of the republican party? Highly doubtful.
So yeah, I will give you a "remains to be seen" on that one.
So, tariffs on steel and aluminum. I mean tell us you have zero understanding of basic economics without telling us you have zero understanding of basic economics.
Loading…
www.npr.org
One of the biggest failings of the Biden administration was keeping the tariffs Trump imposed in his first term. This really hurt the economy and will continue to do so as these are increased, just generally speaking.
Tracking the Economic Impact of the Trump Tariffs
President Trump's 25 percent tariffs on Canada and Mexico is estimated to reduce long-run GDP by 0.2 percent, reduce hours worked by 223,000 full-time equivalent jobs, and reduce after-tax incomes by an average of 0.6 percent—before accounting for foreign retaliation.
Tracking the Economic Impact of the Trump Tariffs
President Trump's 25 percent tariffs on Canada and Mexico is estimated to reduce long-run GDP by 0.2 percent, reduce hours worked by 223,000 full-time equivalent jobs, and reduce after-tax incomes by an average of 0.6 percent—before accounting for foreign retaliation.
And do not forget, these tariffs are a direct tax on the American people, and on no one else. They will raise revenue for the government, absolutely, by taking it from the american people. No foreign country pays a single penny in tariffs. It is all paid domestically. And yes, it will raise prices, and potentially lower volumes, as demand shifts to the new price points, meaning for a lot of companies operating on already thin margins, they effectively break even or even lose money on the deal. But a few will make bank on it, since they can opportunistically raise prices beyond the tariff increases and keep the prices there. This, by the way, hurts americans, and especially lower income americans the most. It will also likely result in the loss of jobs as demand thins to match the new price points.
As far as immigration goes, it is has been nothing short of a fiasco, from threatening, and even rounding up, expulsions of legal native americans, to the idea of creating a task force populated by regular citizens with guns, to the ignoring of the impact of a shrinking population, to simply the human rights issues, this has been nothing short of disastrous.
Take just the shrinking population issue. We are not creating enough new americans to replace the ones who are dying, so our overall labor pool is shrinking. This means less people to collect taxes from. And jobs needing workers with less workers to go around potentially down the road. Also, keep in mind that social security is basically a legal ponzi scheme with no good replacement even in the dreams of anyone in power, and this is a problem that cannot be fixed by kicking people out who are needed to pay into the fund. Of course if they follow through on the threat to gut it, well problem solved, right? Expect for the millions of people it will hurt, but hey, it won't hurt even the top 20% at all, so who gives a **** about the bottom 80, amirite?
So this issue is not as cut and dried as it seems. Which is why no one has solved it yet, and this is really no solution at all. It is going into surgery with Musk's chainsaw. Bound to rip **** up, and do nothing good for the patient or anyone around them.
The reason to refute the claim is that you said "no they are not nazis" and we said "they sure as **** act like nazis" to which you basically said "nuh-uh" so I posted a clear demonstration, point by point, show how the Trump administration are heading down the path to fascism and said "then show that even one of these assertions is wrong". They all had supporting quotes and sources, so you had plenty of material to work with. But you just scoff at it. So apparently you are ok with Trump being fascist. That is about the only conclusion we can draw from that.
So now show me what "my tribe" is, because I belong to exactly one tribe, the one that says "NO" to fascism and "NO" to rewriting the constitution by fiat and that says "NO" to firing hundreds of thousands of people in the interest of the billionaires running the country. That is the only political tribe I am part of right now. And I think you will find people across america from every political letter-designator in this tribe. A family member of my wife just joined this tribe, and until Trump started ****ing with veteran affairs he was a die-hard Trumper. Now he is in my tribe. He still hate immigration, and thinks we should cut all kind of **** from the government and believes most of the conspiracies, but some of the current actions cut too close to home, so he joined us. So what "tribe" do you think it is I belong to? Before Trump I was "R" way more often than not. I am now a "never-Trump"er. What tribe is that then?
Dude you have been exposed. You are just a Trump acolyte, that is clear now. Thanks for the response. I think you can see it is hard to take you at face value when these are the positives you find in this administration. You are just thinly-veiled MAGA. Not a troll, I will give you that. But not that far removed either.
Total **** show.
And one thing to add, I think its funny when trumpers be like "is tariffs are so bad then why did Biden keep some of them around".
*************, haven't you spent the last 4 years bitching about the Biden economy?
Now you want to point to what Biden did with the economy as evidence that tariffs are a good thing?
Make it make sense
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Not funny at all. Cringey and utterly embarrassing for even delusional and demented narcissist occupying POTUS position now. But you keep supporting your wanabe Hitler/Putin. Just keep in mind history was not kind to Hitler supporters, same fate awaits orange clown cultists too. Better jump the ship before it is too late.
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According to Newsweek, "The budget resolution does not contain a bill eliminating taxes on tips, as some have mistakenly claimed on social media."
LOL
Also, im not seeing proof they included the elimination of taxes on ss and overtime. So I guess just more lies?
Sardines
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Did they eliminate the tax on tips?
enchilada_style
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No, it doesn’t look like it.
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He is a douchebag.
Sardines
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Too many enemies within. Don't worry, he'll get around to eliminating them.
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Well most people who rely on tips aren't billionaires so......
There must be some girls on Onlyfans that are close....
Sardines
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I'm starting to see how this great new future is going to work.