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Imagine, if you will, looking to Victor Orban for inspiration and motivational words.

WARNING! Imagine this at your own risk. It will damage your brain.
 
Sardines said:
Anyone have a handy list of "strong men" leaders of the last 100 or so years?
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Zelensky, Putin, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong Un, Ali Khameni, Mohammed bin Salman, Erdogan, Sadyr Japorov, Joao Lourenco, Yoweri Kaguta Museveni, Abdelmadjid Tebborne, Abiy Ahmed, Nicolas Maduro, Daniel Ortega Saavedra, Maguel Diaz-Canel, Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, Filipe Nyusi, and Hun Manet.

Those are the ones currently most likely to fit in that category.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
This wild for Finland! Knowing your history with Russian invasion it surprises me that many support him. If you’re not familiar look it up. They used winter tactics on skiis! So cool.

This generation of voters haven’t lived through right-wing incompetence, fear, and violence. They will now. Last time they oversaw 9/11, we watched it unite us all, and then Bush and the GOP ruined all of it. They lied to all of us about WMD, and sent a generation to war in 2 countries, and crashed the economy on the way out. Sound familiar?


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Yep.

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, this is the third time in my lifetime Americans have voted for an *** clown who’s running this country into a ditch all because the Democratic candidate was too boring. Why do we keep electing these idiots? Bush, Trump, Trump II… why? Imagine how much better our country would’ve been had Gore, Clinton, and Harris been in the White House instead of the incompetent *** clowns bored American voters thought would be more entertaining? Remember the Bush slogan, “he’s a guy you wanna have a beer with.”

Me: I want a guy who values knowledge, is competent, critically thinks, and cares about the world. I can find entertainment through teevee and video games. I don’t want government leaders to be entertaining.
 
Ok, so Fox News reports Russia’s support of Trump. A Russian state journalist made it into the Oval Office for the meeting!

Trump is tangling with Zelenskyy AGAIN! Last time it got him impeached.

Guys. Hello?


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BabyPeterzz said:
Ok, so Fox News reports Russia’s support of Trump. A Russian state journalist made it into the Oval Office for the meeting!

Trump is tangling with Zelenskyy AGAIN! Last time it got him impeached.

Guys. Hello?


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The midterms can't get here fast enough.
 
The Thriller said:
Harris been in the White House instead of the incompetent *** clowns

Me: I want a guy who values knowledge, is competent, critically thinks, and cares about the world. I can find entertainment through teevee and video games. I don’t want government leaders to be entertaining.
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Harris had none of the attributes you just listed. None. She was the worst candidate that your tribe could have trotted out there.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
Trump is tangling with Zelenskyy AGAIN! Last time it got him impeached.

Guys. Hello?
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Exactly. Don't tangle with Zelensky. Don't talk to him. Don't have anything to do with him. The messages being sent out by the White House sounds like they've got the message about tangling with Zelensky. Their updates immediatly following the meeting were:

– HE DID NOT WALK OFF ON HIS OWN -RARE MINERALS DEAL WAS NOT SIGNED.

– WH SAYS “UKRAINIANS WERE BEGGING TO RESET” BUT RUBIO AND WALTZ INFORMED THEM ZELENSKYY NEEDS TO LEAVE WHITE HOUSE GROUNDS, RETURN WHEN HE’S READY FOR PEACE

– THE PRESIDENT AND US OFFICIALS FELT DISRESPECTED BY ZELENSKYY’S RHETORIC AND DEMEANOR

– CITED THAT HE WAS “SHRUGGING AND ROLLING HIS EYES” DURING THE CONVERSATION

**WHEN I WENT TO UPPER PRESS TO ASK WHAT WAS GOING ON, THE LUNCH THAT TRUMP AND ZELENSKYY WERE SUPPOSED TO DINE ON AND TALK OVER WAS SITTING IN THE HALLWAY. I’M TOLD WHITE HOUSE PRESS OFFICE STAFFERS WILL BE EATING IT.
 
Bucknutz said:
Harris had none of the attributes you just listed. None. She was the worst candidate that your tribe could have trotted out there.
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She had an annoying laugh and was not a gifted communicator off the cuff. The reason she was a terrible candidate has more to do with American voters than with her. Spoiler alert: it was because she is a woman and not white.

I would take Kamal right now in a heartbeat.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
Exactly. Don't tangle with Zelensky. Don't talk to him. Don't have anything to do with him. The messages being sent out by the White House sounds like they've got the message about tangling with Zelensky. Their updates immediatly following the meeting were:

– HE DID NOT WALK OFF ON HIS OWN -RARE MINERALS DEAL WAS NOT SIGNED.

– WH SAYS “UKRAINIANS WERE BEGGING TO RESET” BUT RUBIO AND WALTZ INFORMED THEM ZELENSKYY NEEDS TO LEAVE WHITE HOUSE GROUNDS, RETURN WHEN HE’S READY FOR PEACE

– THE PRESIDENT AND US OFFICIALS FELT DISRESPECTED BY ZELENSKYY’S RHETORIC AND DEMEANOR

– CITED THAT HE WAS “SHRUGGING AND ROLLING HIS EYES” DURING THE CONVERSATION

**WHEN I WENT TO UPPER PRESS TO ASK WHAT WAS GOING ON, THE LUNCH THAT TRUMP AND ZELENSKYY WERE SUPPOSED TO DINE ON AND TALK OVER WAS SITTING IN THE HALLWAY. I’M TOLD WHITE HOUSE PRESS OFFICE STAFFERS WILL BE EATING IT.
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Yeah. A complete and total failure of diplomacy. It doesn’t even matter what the plan was, it was his job to bring Zelenskyy along. He failed. Same thing happened with ACA and McCain! It’s like Trump likes to **** over war heroes. Jealous?


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Bucknutz said:
Harris had none of the attributes you just listed. None. She was the worst candidate that your tribe could have trotted out there.
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Straight up.



And still LOADS better than fascist trump turning our time-honored democratic Republic into a tyranny and dictatorship before our very eyes.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
it was his job to bring Zelenskyy along. He failed.
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It is not Trump's job to save Ukraine. That is Zelensky's job. We, the United States, have been willing to help the Ukrainians both because what Russia did was wrong and because Russia is an adversary that we'd like to see taken down a peg, but we are not the world's police. It is not our responsibility to right wrongs. It is not our job. Trump was doing Ukraine a favor by stepping in to help end their bloody war. Instead of using the opportunity to help bring about an end to the war in Ukraine, Zelensky chose to bite the hand that feeds.

Trump should send him home. If Zelensky cannot be counted on to put his country above his own ego when his country needs us as much as it does, then he's of no use to us or to the Ukrainians. As for Trump's ego, it doesn't matter because we don't need any deal and Trump can't run for reelection. Let's call this a failed diplomacy and the two countries can go their separate ways.
 
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The statements coming out of the White House are quite grave. Karoline Leavitt specifically mentioned that Zelensky told Bret Baier that he refused to apologize. Zelensky did say that, but then at the end of the interview apologized. If the Trump White House were in the mood to rekindle the deal, Leavitt would have seized on Zelensky's apology instead of Zelensky's vow to not apologize.

 
It seems clear that Zelensky wants what you all want: to keep fighting Russia. Trump wants to end the war, and has given up on Zelensky as a negotiation partner. Trump is now shifting gears to put his focus on the US economy. Zelensky can go home. In Trump's words at the end of the clip "Either we're going to end it or we're going to let them fight it out". It appears the former is off the table.

 
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Al-O-Meter said:
The statements coming out of the White House are quite grave. Karoline Leavitt specifically mentioned that Zelensky told Bret Baier that he refused to apologize. Zelensky did say that, but then at the end of the interview apologized. If the Trump White House were in the mood to rekindle the deal, Leavitt would have seized on Zelensky's apology instead of Zelensky's vow to not apologize.

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No way Trump walks away. They’ll be golfing next week. But his mineral deal might be dead. UK/EU should help Trump figure this out now that he blew it.


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BabyPeterzz said:
No way Trump walks away. They’ll be golfing next week. But his mineral deal might be dead. UK/EU should help Trump figure this out now that he blew it.


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Not sure what you responded to, but based off your post I had the idea that it would be awesome if the EU made a minerals deal with Ukraine next week and they offered security guarantees.
 
I say again, trump didn't want zelensky to sign the deal. If he did he would have behaved better leading up to today.

Of course trump doesn't want to re-kindle the deal. trump doesn't want to end the war because Putin doesn't want the war to end (if he did he could end it at any time).
What Putin and trump want is for America to wash their hands of Ukraine and let them fight Russia without American assistance. Both Putin and trump hope Ukraine gets slaughtered.
Then Russia makes a deal with trump to pay trump with money made from the rare materials currently in Ukrainian land.

trump wanted zelensky to decline. Then trump can just wash his hands of zelensky and stop helping against Russia. Then Russia continues to conquer Ukraine. Which is what Putin wants to do. (trump wants what Putin wants) Then trump can blame it on zelensky for not signing the deal.
 
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