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And when Zelenskyy, trying to address Vance’s comments says, as Trump begins to bellow, “May I speak….”, Trump says “No, you’ve talked enough already”. All a deliberate set up. In part designed to show Americans, when Ukraine is tossed aside, that Zelensky showed his true colors! He disrespected the Oval Office, he did not show he was grateful to us, did not thank us enough. (Vance asked if he thanked us in that meeting, as if he had not. But he said thank you in his opening remarks.) That’s why they wanted Zelensky to be triggered by Vance. That was the domestic reason for attacking Zelensky. Trump knows he is letting Putin have his sphere of influence.

We’ve favored isolationism before. 1930’s comes to mind. Personally, I think this new world order makes a much bigger war more likely, not less.

How stupid it all was, how stunningly lame it all was, to hear Trump, and his millions of brain dead apologists screaming “Russia, Russia, Russia! All a hoax!! Russia Russia Russia…..” Yep, that’s right! And those with eyes to see knew all along there was an unholy alliance in the making. And it had nothing whatsoever to do with the ideals at the foundation of our nation, the ideals and values we profess to be what we stand for. You know, the attitude reflected by patriot Thomas Paine, which I posted earlier.

Not anymore. Trump would love a new Axis of Evil, the world divided among autocratic Strongmen. That is what Donald Trump wants. As well as the implementation of Project 2025, who one prominent Trump apologist told us was, in so many words, a fiction of our imagination. Now we see Project 2025 in full implementation mode domestically, and an alliance with one of the modern eras mass murderers in foreign policy. Both weaken the United States. Both therefore benefit Putin. I don’t think it’s an accident at all.
Yes. Poor Vladimir he went through so many horrible nasty things with Poor Donald. They are the real victims here...not the people on the receiving end of the bombs.

And yet Fox news and the Republicans are all lining up behind Putin's pal. Wake up America! It's past time to pay attention to the demolition of our society.

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Just shows how much of a produced attack it was, the right wing hack journalist just waiting with a question about respecting the office. Diplomacy as a **** sitcom. Zelensky emerged from the White House with his reputation as a statesman enhanced, the United States emerged from that meeting with its international reputation in tatters.
I just watched a video of Zelensky arriving and meeting with trump outside the building before the discussions even started. First thing trump says as they greet is an insult for how zelensky was dressed. He led with an insult.
 
Zelenskyy has repeatedly thanked the United States for its help. In December 2022, he spoke before both chambers of Congress and his first words were:

“Thank you so much. Thank you so much for that. Thank you. It’s too much for me. All this for our great people. Thank you so much. Dear Americans, in all states, cities and communities, all those who value freedom and justice, who cherish it as strongly as we Ukrainians in our cities, in each and every family, I hope my words of respect and gratitude resonate in each American heart.”
 
Put the vodka down, Vlad.


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The pedophile made a funny.
Meanwhile you cheer the continued death of Ukrainians. “Yay no peace deal”
You’re obviously a sick and demented pervert with that screen name, so I’m not surprised.
Put the baby down, perv.
 
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How dare the US expect Zelensky to show gratitude.

Zelensky: “Thank you so much. Thank you so much for that. Thank you. It’s too much for me. All this for our great people. Thank you so much. Dear Americans, in all states, cities and communities, all those who value freedom and justice, who cherish it as strongly as we Ukrainians in our cities, in each and every family, I hope my words of respect and gratitude resonate in each American heart.”

Maybe dont lead off with an insult right when you meet someone and then expect gratitude and respect minutes later while you continue to insult the person and have been insulting the person for weeks.

Either trump didn't actually want this deal to happen or trump is an idiot. Actually its probably both.
 
And when Zelenskyy, trying to address Vance’s comments says, as Trump begins to bellow, “May I speak….”, Trump says “No, you’ve talked enough already”. All a deliberate set up. In part designed to show Americans, when Ukraine is tossed aside, that Zelensky showed his true colors! He disrespected the Oval Office, he did not show he was grateful to us, did not thank us enough. (Vance asked if he thanked us in that meeting, as if he had not. But he said thank you in his opening remarks.) That’s why they wanted Zelensky to be triggered by Vance. That was the domestic reason for attacking Zelensky. Trump knows he is letting Putin have his sphere of influence.

We’ve favored isolationism before. 1930’s comes to mind. Personally, I think this new world order makes a much bigger war more likely, not less.

How stupid it all was, how stunningly lame it all was, to hear Trump, and his millions of brain dead apologists screaming “Russia, Russia, Russia! All a hoax!! Russia Russia Russia…..” Yep, that’s right! And those with eyes to see knew all along there was an unholy alliance in the making. And it had nothing whatsoever to do with the ideals at the foundation of our nation, the ideals and values we profess to be what we stand for. You know, the attitude reflected by patriot Thomas Paine, which I posted earlier.

Not anymore. Trump would love a new Axis of Evil, the world divided among autocratic Strongmen. That is what Donald Trump wants. As well as the implementation of Project 2025, who one prominent Trump apologist told us was, in so many words, a fiction of our imagination. Now we see Project 2025 in full implementation mode domestically, and an alliance with one of the modern eras mass murderers in foreign policy. Both weaken the United States. Both therefore benefit Putin. I don’t think it’s an accident at all.

Honestly I think domestically it will be a negative for him, while cultists will applaud appeasement of dictators actual conservatives will be appalled. All you need do is look at the front pages of newspapers around the free world, left and right they are appalled. Make no mistake, America will be hated the world over by the end of this administration.
 
My current worry is that this whole ordeal will lead to a new style of nuclear arms race. Where more small to mid size countries look to acquire nuclear weapons as the only real deterrent to larger invaders.

Australia is presently buying 8 nuclear subs off the US the cost is expected to be between around 360 billion dollars, we made a terrible mistake, not in entering into this deal with the UK and US, but choosing the American subs, from a sovereign risk aspect we'd have been much better off buying from the UK. The worry is for us that we will never get these subs delivered. Additionally that money would likely be better spent in developing our own nuclear weapons program, which would likely be cheaper and deliverable in a significantly shorter period of time. For countries like Australia, Germany, Canada, a nuclear program is well within their financial and technical capacity. (the EU is for the most part protected by France and the UKs capability)

but lets pose the big question

Taiwan?

 
Honestly I think domestically it will be a negative for him, while cultists will applaud appeasement of dictators actual conservatives will be appalled. All you need do is look at the front pages of newspapers around the free world, left and right they are appalled. Make no mistake, America will be hated the world over by the end of this administration.
If not Trump and the US who the hell else is going to get a peace deal done? Who? It’s so easy to talk and act big with other peoples lives and other people money. America holds the cards and Zelenskyy just spit all over it. Nobody can help him besides the US, others can try, but they won’t. Europe isn’t going to do **** and Zelenskyy can’t help himself. Who’s gonna get a deal done? China?
What Zelenskyy did was maybe one of the dumbest things I think I have ever seen anyone do. Literally biting the hand that feeds you.


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Honestly I think domestically it will be a negative for him,
Biggest test may come with warm weather and size and seriousness of demonstrations. Like a March on Washington. But I don’t think we have a genuine resistance movement for something like that, in 2025.
 
My current worry is that this whole ordeal will lead to a new style of nuclear arms race. Where more small to mid size countries look to acquire nuclear weapons as the only real deterrent to larger invaders.
As a life time pacifist and full blown leftist, it's actually what I'm hoping right now. More nuclear weapons to Europe. Neither Russia or Kingdom Of Trump will risk a full blown nuclear war.
 
Lol at people who are like "without America, who else can get a deal done?"

Why couldn't literally any other country in the world call up zelensky and say "hey, we have a deal for you. Let Russia keep the land they took and you share your rare earth materials with us"

Literally every country can make that exact same offer lol.
 
Lol at people who are like "without America, who else can get a deal done?"

Why couldn't literally any other country in the world call up zelensky and say "hey, we have a deal for you. Let Russia keep the land they took and you share your rare earth materials with us"

Literally every country can make that exact same offer lol.
Exactly. The difference is the other nations operate on a system of morals that prioritizes the citizens and families affected. Where Trump prioritizes Trump, so, you know...
 
Lol at people who are like "without America, who else can get a deal done?"

Why couldn't literally any other country in the world call up zelensky and say "hey, we have a deal for you. Let Russia keep the land they took and you share your rare earth materials with us"

Literally every country can make that exact same offer lol.
You obviously don’t know, but here goes… Do you know what countries have the ability, technology, and manufacturing capability to extract, refine, and utilize those materials? Not to mention the ability to protect those materials… dum dum
 
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