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Hayward finally looking right?

I'd love if Hayward found that consistancy. I think he ultimatly will but I think this month of heavy road game swill mess with him some.
 
I have hopes that the depth of the squad will help all of Jazz players be more competitive as the season progresses.
 
northeast said:
I have hopes that the depth of the squad will help all of Jazz players be more competitive as the season progresses.
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This will hopefully help them fight off fatigue at least. Easier to play better when you are not worn down.
 
Everyone had their panties in a bunch over Hayward because they expected him to build off his performances from last April. But as I've always said, you never judge a player by what he does in October or April.

If you watched him closely this year, you would see he was closer to building off his performances from last February and March.

This kid will be fine. He may never be an All-Star, he'll never be a #1 option on a team; but I think he's a lock for a high IQ, solid role player/starter for most of his career. I'm OK with that.
 
Could the fact that he is doing well and the fact that we lost 4 of our last 6 say anthing? :eek:



















Joking... just joking...
 
Most young players have a hard time figuring out how to play within the offense, that they tend to force bad shots, kinda like Cj, and after 6 or 7 years is still trying to figure that out. Hayward on the other hand is too patient that his opportunities pass right by him. Last night he seemed to look to be more aggressive, and looked to shoot and forced the issue. As he does this more it will create more opportunities for the other players.

Unlike most on this board I see him as an all-star, he does so many things well. Hayward just needs to figure it all out. As he gets more experience and years under his belt, I see him as the leader of this team. Gordon is a scorer who has a pg mentality, and puts teammates above him self. As his reputation grows other good players will want to play with him. As soon as he figures out how to balance his pg mentality with his offensive aggressiveness he will be one of the most dangerous cerebral players in the game. Taking away his shot enables him to create offense for a teammate, if they try to concentrate on someone else like Al or Millsap, it opens things up for Hayward to score. I think Hayward has a chance to be a dynamic player.

That's how I see Hayward as a player if he is developed right. Hayward has all the intangibles, and IQ to be that "it" player.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Most young players have a hard time figuring out how to play within the offense, that they tend to force bad shots, kinda like Cj, and after 6 or 7 years is still trying to figure that out. Hayward on the other hand is too patient that his opportunities pass right by him. Last night he seemed to look to be more aggressive, and looked to shoot and forced the issue. As he does this more it will create more opportunities for the other players.

Unlike most on this board I see him as an all-star, he does so many things well. Hayward just needs to figure it all out. As he gets more experience and years under his belt, I see him as the leader of this team. Gordon is a scorer who has a pg mentality, and puts teammates above him self. As his reputation grows other good players will want to play with him. As soon as he figures out how to balance his pg mentality with his offensive aggressiveness he will be one of the most dangerous cerebral players in the game. Taking away his shot enables him to create offense for a teammate, if they try to concentrate on someone else like Al or Millsap, it opens things up for Hayward to score. I think Hayward has a chance to be a dynamic player.

That's how I see Hayward as a player if he is developed right. Hayward has all the intangibles, and IQ to be that "it" player.
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I agree to a certain degree. I think he could end up being the "leader" of this team, but that doesn't necessarily mean I think he'll be the best player on the team. I see him having a Manu type role: scoring in a variety of ways, while also creating for his teammates and coming up big at the end of games. He'll be a very balanced player. In his prime, I see him averaging around 15 points, 5 assists, 4 rebounds. His potential is an elite glue guy, imo.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Most young players have a hard time figuring out how to play within the offense, that they tend to force bad shots, kinda like Cj, and after 6 or 7 years is still trying to figure that out. Hayward on the other hand is too patient that his opportunities pass right by him. Last night he seemed to look to be more aggressive, and looked to shoot and forced the issue. As he does this more it will create more opportunities for the other players.

Unlike most on this board I see him as an all-star, he does so many things well. Hayward just needs to figure it all out. As he gets more experience and years under his belt, I see him as the leader of this team. Gordon is a scorer who has a pg mentality, and puts teammates above him self. As his reputation grows other good players will want to play with him. As soon as he figures out how to balance his pg mentality with his offensive aggressiveness he will be one of the most dangerous cerebral players in the game. Taking away his shot enables him to create offense for a teammate, if they try to concentrate on someone else like Al or Millsap, it opens things up for Hayward to score. I think Hayward has a chance to be a dynamic player.

That's how I see Hayward as a player if he is developed right. Hayward has all the intangibles, and IQ to be that "it" player.
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Agreed, and now he is playing with a lot of agressiveness: driving into the lane a lot, playing good D, getting blocks and steals and rebounds. The shots will begin to fall soon enough. And if he can develop a pull-up J and or a runner, look out.
 
spycam1 said:
I agree to a certain degree. I think he could end up being the "leader" of this team, but that doesn't necessarily mean I think he'll be the best player on the team. I see him having a Manu type role: scoring in a variety of ways, while also creating for his teammates and coming up big at the end of games. He'll be a very balanced player. In his prime, I see him averaging around 15 points, 5 assists, 4 rebounds. His potential is an elite glue guy, imo.
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Isn't Ginobili an all-star
 
Seriously, I see him having a trajectory similar to Harden. I know his shooting is down, but he has a great release and form to his shot. This stuff will be corrected as he countinues to gain confidence and adjusts how quickly he is getting his shot off.

* Edit- Not calling him Harden, just that he wasnt thought of being able to adapt to the game his first year and a half.
 
The past couple games, he is showing that he is a natural SG and that is where he belongs. On offense, he has an advantage to muscle guys a bit as he showed against Ellis, Billups, and Williams. On defense, he uses his size to get blocks and make them shoot tough jumpers. If he is playing a quick guy like Ellis, he is obviously at a bit of a loss, but he doesn't give up on the play and that is to be commended. If he is the permanent starting 2 for the rest of the season, I see a most improved award in his future.
 
I am willing to bet that Ty will move Hayward back to the 3 when Raja comes back. It's obvious that Hayward plays better at the 2, obvious to everyone except Ty.
 
sojodave said:
I am willing to bet that Ty will move Hayward back to the 3 when Raja comes back. It's obvious that Hayward plays better at the 2, obvious to everyone except Ty.
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Probably. But hopefully he lets him play the 2 when Raja sits.
 
Easily Hayward's best game. Shades of AK for the way he was all over the floor making plays. And the aggression was very nice to see. He needs to keep building on this game, though. His trend is mixing a good game with passive games so hopefully this was the eye opener for him.
 
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