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Kyle Filipowski Hype & Appreciation thread

Ferguson_Mellochill said:
This is going to sound ridiculous. Filipowski's offensive potential might be in the same ballpark as Karl Anthony Towns.

Okay, forget I mentioned it.
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Well at least you arent calling him the next Jokic.

My ceiling for him would be Naz Reid mixed with Sabonis, but worse at the things those guys are elite at. So not quite the volume shooter as Naz and not quite the bully/playmaker that Sabonis is.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Well at least you arent calling him the next Jokic.

My ceiling for him would be Naz Reid mixed with Sabonis, but worse at the things those guys are elite at. So not quite the volume shooter as Naz and not quite the bully/playmaker that Sabonis is.
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I wouldn't underestimate the significance of a 6'11" / 240-lb guy who can genuinely handle, pass, make reads and score at 3 levels. It takes a bit of imagination, and he'll have to build up his body some from where it is so that he can just move guys out the way, but he's actually sneaky athletic. Like, Kelly Olynyk is kind of a doofus athlete. He's a bit slow. Whereas Filipowski I think can play at closer to full speed.

I guess it will be something to watch. See how good Filipowski is at taking guys off the dribble as he develops. That will be key. He's got to be able to beat a defender off the dribble and create an advantage from it. From there, I'd trust him to eventually be able to make a play. Not saying he'll get there, but it could be a possibility.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
I wouldn't underestimate the significance of a 6'11" / 240-lb guy who can genuinely handle, pass, make reads and score at 3 levels. It takes a bit of imagination, and he'll have to build up his body some from where it is so that he can just move guys out the way, but he's actually sneaky athletic. Like, Kelly Olynyk is kind of a doofus athlete. He's a bit slow. Whereas Filipowski I think can play at closer to full speed.

I guess it will be something to watch. See how good Filipowski is at taking guys off the dribble as he develops. That will be key. He's got to be able to beat a defender off the dribble and create an advantage from it. From there, I'd trust him to eventually be able to make a play.
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I dont think calling him a mix of Sabonis/Naz is underestimating him at all. That's an all-star and one of the best stretch bigs in the NBA.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Not sure that’s true, because the odds of getting the first pick didn’t change
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Sure but lets say we finish with the second worst record and the team with the second worst record (us) wins the lottery.
Then that would mean that his performance and that win could be looked at as the reason we won the lottery.
The 3 worst records do all have the same odds, that is true. But not all 3 of the worst teams will win the lottery and get Flagg. (maybe even none of the worst 3 teams win the lottery).
Only 1 team gets to pick first.
Maybe that team will be the team with the 2nd worst record in the league and maybe the team with the 2nd worst record will be us because of Flip.
 
fishonjazz said:
Sure but lets say we finish with the second worst record and the team with the second worst record (us) wins the lottery.
Then that would mean that his performance and that win could be looked at as the reason we won the lottery.
The 3 worst records do all have the same odds, that is true. But not all 3 of the worst teams will win the lottery and get Flagg. (maybe even none of the worst 3 teams win the lottery).
Only 1 team gets to pick first.
Maybe that team will be the team with the 2nd worst record in the league and maybe the team with the 2nd worst record will be us because of Flip.
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I dont think it changes anything in terms of which balls you are assigned.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I dont think it changes anything in terms of which balls you are assigned.
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Yeah. The only difference is it increased the chance (slightly) that the Jazz end up at #6 instead of #5. I don’t think anything changes with which combinations you’re assigned and how that shakes out in the actual lottery.
 
I will say, that IF the Jazz lose to OKC tonight, it should give them enough of a buffer to not have to worry about what happens if they beat Minnesota. It basically locks them into the #2 spot. If winning that last game can potentially push the Timberwolves into the play-in games, it might now be worth actually playing that out.
 
fishonjazz said:
Sure but lets say we finish with the second worst record and the team with the second worst record (us) wins the lottery.
Then that would mean that his performance and that win could be looked at as the reason we won the lottery.
The 3 worst records do all have the same odds, that is true. But not all 3 of the worst teams will win the lottery and get Flagg. (maybe even none of the worst 3 teams win the lottery).
Only 1 team gets to pick first.
Maybe that team will be the team with the 2nd worst record in the league and maybe the team with the 2nd worst record will be us because of Flip.
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Was depressingly funny when the Jazz tanked their asses off last year to sink from 10 to 8, and then the #10 team (Atlanta) won the lottery.

I get what you're saying here.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I dont think it changes anything in terms of which balls you are assigned.
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Still. If we finish with the second worst record and the wizards get the first pick then you cant convince me that I wouldn't rather have been the worst team in the league.
Same thing if we are the 2nd worst record and we get the #2 pick. I will be really happy that we were the second worst team rather than the worst team in that scenario.
 
bigmike said:
Not sure if I should be excited about Flip's performance the other night, or if I think the Blazers were playing ASG-level defense.
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Both
 
fishonjazz said:
Sure but lets say we finish with the second worst record and the team with the second worst record (us) wins the lottery.
Then that would mean that his performance and that win could be looked at as the reason we won the lottery.
The 3 worst records do all have the same odds, that is true. But not all 3 of the worst teams will win the lottery and get Flagg. (maybe even none of the worst 3 teams win the lottery).
Only 1 team gets to pick first.
Maybe that team will be the team with the 2nd worst record in the league and maybe the team with the 2nd worst record will be us because of Flip.
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Oh, right. lol that’s right
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I dont think it changes anything in terms of which balls you are assigned.
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Coach Ellis said:
Yeah. The only difference is it increased the chance (slightly) that the Jazz end up at #6 instead of #5. I don’t think anything changes with which combinations you’re assigned and how that shakes out in the actual lottery.
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I believe what fish is appealing to is chaos theory. Everyone is looking at this deterministically, that the odds are set and the outcome is fixed no matter how it’s sliced, as if the outcome is somehow predetermined (I think this would be disputed but I’m not going to be long-winded). The outcome of the lottery certainly has odds, but within those odds are complete chaos. If they held the lottery 5 minutes earlier, you get a different outcome. 5 minutes later, same thing. Silver bends down to adjust his sock before pulling the balls, different outcome. So fish is talking about a small variable that introduces a large enough dose of chaos that’s only unleashed when the equation gets run.

And I’m philosophically with fish. Here’s to hoping.
 
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