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Paul Millsap told me in the walk off interview after the Jazz 96-87 versus the hated Lakers, that the difference in the game may have been the fact that tonight it was 4 on 2. What did he mean?
The Jazz had 4 bigs playing very well, the Laker had 2.
In the last meeting Millsap and Al Jefferson out played Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum in the stat sheet (points + rebound), but it was Bynum’s block and Gasol’s 3 that were the difference in the game. Tonight was much different, Bynum and Gasol out performed Jefferson and Millsap in the stats (Gasol/Bynum 45 & 28, Millsap/Jefferson 34 & 26), but it wasn’t a Jefferson block and a Millsap 3 that was the difference it was the play of Enes Kanter and Derrick Favors combined with Jefferson and Millsap that made the difference. If you throw in their stats to the mix, the Jazz bigs outperformed the Lakers bigs 54 points 34 rebounds to the Lakers 45 and 28. As nice as that looks, it really wasn’t the difference though.

Favors & Kanter = Fantastic


It wasn’t the offense of the two young Jazz bigs that made the difference in the Jazz win. It was the defense. I sent out about 10 different tweets during the game regarding their defense on Bynum each well deserving of the 140 characters, it was fabulous.
The Lakers were relying on Andrew Bynum to be the scoring punch and stabilizing force for the bench unit. Bynum was the first sub out, but also quick to come in once Kobe and Pau were subbed out. It was important for Favors and Kanter to each take turns on Bynum. While they didn’t shut Bynum down (because he’s a pretty fantastic player) they did wear him out with a very physical brand of defense. Each time Bynum was met at the free throw line (or further out) by one of the two Jazz bigs, and when he was met he was met with a body leaning on him the rest of the possession.
Kanter was especially great at this. While Bynum was able to push Jefferson to a spot, he was not able to do that as much with Favors and not able to budge Kanter. It was amazing to watch the 19 year old able to control the All Star Starter.
More amazing is what we are seeing. We’ve all been waiting to watch these two grow and become better players. None of us imagined it would be this quick. It seems as if they are making giant strides on both sides of the ball each night. Kudos to Jefferson and Millsap in taking each under their wings and mentoring them (as well as many others and the Jazz coaches). Favors offense is beginning to show more consistent flashes of brilliance, and Kanter is greatly improved at his ability to finish.


Earl Watson and the Bench


Once again, it was Earl Watson who sparked the crowd and the team (and maybe even Mike Brown) to a combustible frenzy in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Watson was listed as doubtful this morning, but left no doubt in a text to +David Locke that he was going to play against the hated Lakers. Earl reigned havoc on LA with alley oops, 3 balls, defense and energy. Earl was the Pied Piper, and the Jazz players, coaches and fans followed willingly to the tune he was playing. If you missed my interview after the game with Watson, it’s well worth the listen on 1320kfan.com as he talks about the ankle treatment as well why each game is a must win.


We Are Utah Jazz


This is not just the motto for this team, it is the way they live. It’s been amazing to watch this team. It really has. I’ve been in the Jazz locker room for a decade now and have seen locker rooms with John Stockton and Karl Malone, Deron Williams and Carlos Boozer, but never a locker room this close.
It’s true.
These guys are as united of a locker room as I’ve ever seen. It’s Jefferson telling Favors and Kanter that they are the future of this Jazz team taking them under his wing and spending time every day working with them on their post moves. It’s Earl Watson leading a young bench unit and the locker room with his veteran savvy and experience. It’s the unselfishness shown by each guy to cheer on their team mate even when that team mate is taking minutes away from them.
It’s Jamaal Tinsley who plays 45 minutes all season, then 38 in the absence of Watson and Harris, then 0 tonight, but still makes a huge impact on the game. Tinsley took Kanter aside outside the Jazz locker room at half time and showed the young big man the secret to defending the spin move. Kanter had been beat twice in the first half by Bynum spinning and getting the lob pass. Tinsley explained to him that he needed to center himself behind Bynum, that way if he spun he’d spin into Kanter not around him. The result, no lobs for Bynum in the second half.
This is special to watch.
This is Utah Jazz!
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Discuss.
 
No seriously, I liked the article. It is great to see the team so united. That is really why we have won games we shouldn't have this season. This team plays as a team as well as any Jazz team we have had. Imagine if Ostertag or Marshall or a few others had that kind of comeradery with those Jazz teams in the past? We could have potentially had a couple banners in the rafters.
 
Hopefully this unity generates a few surprising wins and gets us through the next 6 weeks in good shape. I'm stoked about Favors and Kanter; their surge couldn't come at a better time. Now, we need the wings to show something more....
 
"It wasn’t the offense of the two young Jazz bigs that made the difference in the Jazz win. It was the defense. I sent out about 10 different tweets during the game regarding their defense on Bynum each well deserving of the 140 characters, it was fabulous."

Which indicates to me that Ty is playing the bigs wrong. Sap and Big Slow = great experience, great offense, p-poor defense. Favors and Kanter = little experience, weak offense, great defense. Why not mix that up? Play favors with Al and kanter with Sap. Tough luck if one of them, Sap or Al, is not a starter anymore. They can still get their minutes. How much better would we have been off if Bynum was kept under control by the youngsters the whole game, instead of just 15-20 minutes? He was eating up Al and Sap.

Is this too hard to understand, or is Ty just too afraid to p-off one of the vets?
 
Nice to see that it was more obvious to Corbin that his HoF predecessor that the way to counter the Faker bigs is by committee.

Fesenko was less talented (and less motivated) than Favors and Kanter, but he also made an impact especially against this Flaker team, given that Gasoft can be pushed around and Bynum being can be frustrated. When Okur went out in the playoffs, Fes did what he could, but he didn't have the prior experience (or self-discipline) to do more than hold serve. Then, in subsequent games, Sloan didn't use him much. Corbin > Sloan in that regard.

Favors and Kanter clearly deserve minutes, and I would give them even a bit more to keep AJ and PM fresh -- and motivated & focused. I also agree with Zman that Corbin should use more of a young big with PM or AJ so that the offense doesn't plummet so much. Seems so intuitive; not sure why Corbin semi-emulates the robotic sub-the-entire-team model that Ol' Jer used.
 
zman1527 said:
"It wasn’t the offense of the two young Jazz bigs that made the difference in the Jazz win. It was the defense. I sent out about 10 different tweets during the game regarding their defense on Bynum each well deserving of the 140 characters, it was fabulous."

Which indicates to me that Ty is playing the bigs wrong. Sap and Big Slow = great experience, great offense, p-poor defense. Favors and Kanter = little experience, weak offense, great defense. Why not mix that up? Play favors with Al and kanter with Sap. Tough luck if one of them, Sap or Al, is not a starter anymore. They can still get their minutes. How much better would we have been off if Bynum was kept under control by the youngsters the whole game, instead of just 15-20 minutes? He was eating up Al and Sap.

Is this too hard to understand, or is Ty just too afraid to p-off one of the vets?
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This comment indicates to me that you don't really watch the games. The chemistry between Sap and Al has been great. The problem with mixing up these squads is floor spacing. The opposing PF has to respect Millsap's mid-range game and can't rush over to double Al. Any other combo ruins that.
 
NAOS said:
This comment indicates to me that you don't really watch the games. The chemistry between Sap and Al has been great. The problem with mixing up these squads is floor spacing. The opposing PF has to respect Millsap's mid-range game and can't rush over to double Al. Any other combo ruins that.
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Millslap + Jeff worked OK against a tired Flaker team, but on other nights, it's been subpar to play Kanter + Favors mostly together because the offense often stalls -- and sometimes AJ + PM play poor D, when either Favors or Kanter (but not both at a time) would add some major toughness and defense alongside either Big Al or the Paperboy.
 
InGameStrategy said:
Millslap + Jeff worked OK against a tired Flaker team, but on other nights, it's been subpar to play Kanter + Favors mostly together because the offense often stalls -- and sometimes AJ + PM play poor D, when either Favors or Kanter (but not both at a time) would add some major toughness and defense alongside either Big Al or the Paperboy.
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I don't disagree. And, obviously our strategy should change with the opponent. But, I think it is pretty clear that Sap and Al deserve to be the starting duo. For now.
 
I agree. YOu can just tell that this team really likes each other. They all pull for each other and the vets look out for the young guys. Take your example. Watson going after Dirk in order to protect Favors, Howard coaching Hayward on the way to the bench during a timeout, Big Al working with Kanter and Favors everyday, Tinsley showing Kanter how to defend the spin. Love it.
 
NAOS said:
I don't disagree. And, obviously our strategy should change with the opponent. But, I think it is pretty clear that Sap and Al deserve to be the starting duo. For now.
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Why? Didn't you see Bynum eat them up? If you score 40 points in 1 quarter its great, unless the other team scores 50. Thats the idea, combine offense with defense.

Right now we play our too best offensive bigs together and our two best defensive bigs at the same time. Makes zero sense to me. I do not care how young they are or how experienced they are.
 
zman1527 said:
Why? Didn't you see Bynum eat them up? If you score 40 points in 1 quarter its great, unless the other team scores 50. Thats the idea, combine offense with defense.

Right now we play our too best offensive bigs together and our two best defensive bigs at the same time. Makes zero sense to me. I do not care how young they are or how experienced they are.
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Have you ever considered the fact that perhaps, Corbin is looking into the future, and maximizing the playtime that Kanter and Favors have with one another, so their chemistry can be off the charts in the years to come??

Honestly, our frontcourt is statistically one of the best in the NBA. We own the paint., we lead the league in points in the paint. Check it out if you don't believe me. Our 4 and 5 minute rotations have been absolutely spot on. If we don't make the playoffs, it will be because of our backcourt.
 
LOL @ the guy crying over our front court.

Great article. I always like details like the bit about Tinsley coaching up Kanter.

What a great win. Everybody contributed. Utah would have beat any team in the NBA playing like that last night.
 
dalamon said:
Have you ever considered the fact that perhaps, Corbin is looking into the future, and maximizing the playtime that Kanter and Favors have with one another, so their chemistry can be off the charts in the years to come??
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...I don't think Ty Corbin looks ahead more than 10 minutes into a game or even into his life......let alone into the future "years to come!"
 
There are lots of good arguments either way... I'll approve with whatever combos coach goes with , as long as he utilizes the team's depth and gives the youth some burn.
 
16 TOTAL Laker points scored by players not in the big three. Does anyone besides myself see that this is a "flawed" Laker team. Compete for a championship? Without some serious roster moves they will have trouble competing for third place in the division. To me this just makes their letting Odom go very puzzling. And we think we have issues with KOC!

I am as impatient as anyone can be to see Kanter get more minutes and continue improving. Totally defer to what TyCo is doing, it's working. Bring him along slowly by all means.
 
t’s Jamaal Tinsley who plays 45 minutes all season, then 38 in the absence of Watson and Harris, then 0 tonight, but still makes a huge impact on the game. Tinsley took Kanter aside outside the Jazz locker room at half time and showed the young big man the secret to defending the spin move. Kanter had been beat twice in the first half by Bynum spinning and getting the lob pass. Tinsley explained to him that he needed to center himself behind Bynum, that way if he spun he’d spin into Kanter not around him. The result, no lobs for Bynum in the second half.
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This is what I am looking for this season. Progression like this. Both Favors and Kanter are starting to play like the lightbulb is turning on.
 
One thing I can nitpick on about Kanter is that a couple of times he went up for rebounds a bit soft, and a Laker player went after it more aggresively and pulled it down. I'd love to see him get a little nasty going after the boards. He's working hard and making great strides, and it might not be in his nature, but just a little something to keep an eye on.
 
If Bynum wasn't getting away with hooking Kanter and Favors with his elbow all night--even getting fouls called on our guys for his elbow--then he wouldn't have been much of an impact at all. It's tough enough to defend Bynum in the post as it is but it's impossible to defend when the refs are calling it the wrong way and giving him free throws for elbows. Reminds me of Bryant's back down elbows to the gut in front of refs, but anyway...

Grandpa Jazz said:
16 TOTAL Laker points scored by players not in the big three. Does anyone besides myself see that this is a "flawed" Laker team. Compete for a championship? Without some serious roster moves they will have trouble competing for third place in the division. To me this just makes their letting Odom go very puzzling. And we think we have issues with KOC!

I am as impatient as anyone can be to see Kanter get more minutes and continue improving. Totally defer to what TyCo is doing, it's working. Bring him along slowly by all means.
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We watched the game at Iggy's last night and there were more Faker fans than Jazz, annoying. The guy next to us was a Faker fan and I mentioned a scenario where Fakers could sign Dwight outright. He responded that they don't need bigs. I said yeah, but you need a player for the future. He STFU right there. They know.
 
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