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Great article, very entertaining, except it brought up Peter Vescey, someone I never wanted to hear about for the rest of my life.

I remember once listening to KFAN and they had Frank Layden on there, who seems to be good friends with everyone, right? Well, Peter Vescey was brought up and Frank went into a Mr Hyde state and went crazy spewing his hate for Vescey. I mean, it was intense!
And since I already hated Vescey from all his appearances on TV, I pretty much enjoyed it.

I enjoyed it even more when Vescey said enough stupid things that he never appeared on TV again and nobody wants to hear what he thinks anymore. Ever.


It really is a curious thing that after all the things that Vescey said about players, that nobody ever said "Screw it" and beat the living snot out of him.


and I have to say, Simmons is way over-vauling Chris Webber. Sure, Webber was a great talent and had a couple of decent years, but he never came close to reaching his potential, flamed out very fast, and even when he was good, he was more afraid of the clutch than Trout is of showing up and showing his face.
 
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craig2112 said:
Great article, except it brought up Peter Vescey, someone I never wanted to hear about for the rest of my life.


I enjoyed it even more when Vescey said enough stupid things that he never appeared on TV again and nobody wants to hear what he thinks anymore. Ever.
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....Peter Vescey, is without question, the most refreshing, honest, tell it like it is, NBA sports reporter/writer in Sports journalism history! He's the best in the business!
Sorry to burst your bubble.
 
carolinajazz said:
....Peter Vescey, is without question, the most refreshing, honest, tell it like it is, NBA sports reporter/writer in Sports journalism history! He's the best in the business!
Sorry to burst your bubble.
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My bubble isn't burst.
How come Vescey went from being one of the biggest voices on NBA on NBC to nothing?
The nice thing is that I haven't seen his stupid ugly smug mug anywhere since then.

Vescey may be good, but he let his personal biases get in the way.
 
Yeah, CJ, I have to agree that he is blunt and doesn't minx his words, but do you know anyone who actually likes him?
 
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Smug mug is right. Vescey was on my hate list too.
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Heard a funny story about Vescey from Dave Blackwell one time. Blackwell met Vescey's brother, who is apparently a respected journalist (as opposed to Peter). When Blackwell realized this, he asked the other Vescey to confirm that they were brothers. Other Vescey said, "I know. Same father. Same mother. I can't explain it." Seems even his brother wasn't his biggest fan.
 
Kenwood said:
Heard a funny story about Vescey from Dave Blackwell one time. Blackwell met Vescey's brother, who is apparently a respected journalist (as opposed to Peter). When Blackwell realized this, he asked the other Vescey to confirm that they were brothers. Other Vescey said, "I know. Same father. Same mother. I can't explain it." Seems even his brother wasn't his biggest fan.
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Reminds me of a story from Jayson Williams, the former Nets center, who hated Rick Barry for some reason, so when he was playing against one of the Barry brothers, probably Brent, he was really hitting him hard. Brent finally said "Why are you punishing me so bad, Jay?"
Jayson answered "Cause your father is a dick!"
Brent said "Jay, I don't like him either"
Jayson said "Oh man. I'm sorry" and stopping playing Brent so physical.
 
To recap: Baron Davis > Elton Brand > Corey Maggette > Dan Gadzuric & Charlie Bell. WE BELIEVE … IN AN ANAL PROBE!!!"
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The article was ho-hum up until this point.
 
Unfortunately, this article reminded me of Joe Barry Carroll, who, more unfortunately, is who I can't help but think of when I watch Favors.
 
craig2112 said:
Reminds me of a story from Jayson Williams, the former Nets center, who hated Rick Barry for some reason, so when he was playing against one of the Barry brothers, probably Brent, he was really hitting him hard. Brent finally said "Why are you punishing me so bad, Jay?"
Jayson answered "Cause your father is a dick!"
Brent said "Jay, I don't like him either"
Jayson said "Oh man. I'm sorry" and stopping playing Brent so physical.
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Hahaham, I hope that is a true story.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Hahaham, I hope that is a true story.
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It's in Jayson's book called "Loose Balls" It's a funny read, although the more I read it, the more I thought Jayson is a complete moron and a thug. I really don't know why people say he's such a great guy.

But it is interesting.

But the best story is about Jayson first seeing Larry Bird. (I may have posted this already, but it's great). I'll even quote Jayson on this:

I remember the first time playing against Larry Bird. It was one of his last years, and Charles Barkely was already a star, but Larry was just killing Charlie. Then Armen took him, and he was killing Armen. I looked up from the Sixers' bench and I said, "How the hell is he doing this, that skinny-assed white boy?" I said to Jim Lynam. "Put me in the game, Coach!"

He said, "You think you can handle him?"
I said, "Yeah, I can handle him"

He put me in the game and the first thing Larry does is get the ball, look at me, and say "Hey rookie," while he shoots a three-pointer in my face.
"Damn," I say. "He ain't gonna shoot the next one."
The next time he gets the ball, he fakes and I jump about three feet off the ground and he dribbles around me and hits a layup. The next time I play it straight up, and he raises up and hits another three. He scores like 14 points in six minutes. He messed my mind up so much, I didn't want to play basketball anymore. I just wanted to beat him up. I'd never been killed in a spurt that quickly.

So I'm back on the bench again and Charles is getting his *** ate up again. Jim Lynam looks down the bench at me and I just start staring into the crowd. I have no eye contact with him. I do no want to go back out there and play Larry Bird again.
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If you want a really entertaining NBA book, get "Chocolate Thunder" by Darrel Dawkins. It's mostly about all the chicks he banged, but it's dang funny.

The best is when he wasn't playing much and he gave the coach crap about that, and finally pissed off the coach. So the next game, the coach puts him in and leaves him in for a whole quarter. Darrel gets totally gassed and asks to come out, but the coach leaves him in. When the quarter ends, Darrel collapses on the bench and sucks wind and the coach just laughs at him and says "I thought you wanted to play more! Don't piss me off again"
 
I like reading books by pro athletes. They aren't good writing, but they have great stories and interesting insights in the world of pro sports.

Larry Bird wrote a couple of great books. Charles Barkely wrote a good one.
Best one from Charles is he is talking about how Jordan always yelled at his teammates and finally Bill Cartright gets fed up and threatens to beat the snot out of of MJ if he doesn't shut up. MJ shut up. For some reason I feel out of my chair and laughed for a good 5 minutes.
 
I liked Terry Pluto's Loose Balls much better.

Rick Barry is the the most hated NBA player of all time. Mostly based on his gigantic ego. Brent's dislike for him is pretty well known.
 
Boy did this thread take a nose dive.

Back to the original topic. This gives me new hope and confidence that the Warriors will end up giving us the #8 pick. It's just how the Warriors roll.
 
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