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Picks or Playoffs.

Playoffs or draft pick

  • Playoffs

    Votes: 43 81.1%

  • Draft Pick

    Votes: 10 18.9%
  • Total voters
    53
Gojazz79 said:
So if we make the 2nd round (or heaven forbid I dream and they make the WCFs) and Harris adn Big Als trade value shoots up. Would you want them traded for vets that better fit our needs or try to angle for a lotto pick? Would having/not having GSW lotto pick affect your decision?
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I think this all depends on the draft positions after the lottery. If there is a team needing a 20/10 big or a serviceable pg in the top three I say we look to trade for better draft position.
 
Well, I can easily see the Jazz extending the vets of the Jazz make it to the 2nd round. If they do extend the vets, then we might have the same issues that we have right now for another couple of years. Is that what we really want to happen?

Assuming that the trade value of Jefferson and Harris is going to go up is a fair assumption. Assuming that they will be traded is a little silly. Why would the Jazz want to blow up a team that got to the 2nd round of the playoffs? Be careful what you hope for.
 
The Thriller said:
Hence, why I said this isn't a black or white choice. It's complicated. I didn't say my question was perfect and addressed every single issue. But it's surely better than asking... PICK or PLAYOFFS?

Well duh, I'd rather have the playoffs.

But I want a championship run and would much rather roll the dice in the lotto than being dumped quickly in the playoffs.
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Jesus Christ, lay off the coffee. I never said you did any of that. If anything my post reinforces your post. Get a grip.
 
orangello said:
Here is a thought for everyone on this very subject. What happens if the Jazz get into the playoffs and actually make a little run? Are they then going to extend Jefferson, Millsap, Harris and possibly even Miles past the end of their respective contracts? Are they going to just hope the the playoff experience was enough for the Fearless Four (yes, I am going to run with it) and still move those vets?
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We will not be able to extend everyone and then pay the young guys. If we do extend we have to do it for only a year or two so we can the young fellas when the time comes. Luxury tax is going to be a big hit in two seasons. I see no way we are going to pay luxury tax then.
 
gregbroncs said:
This debate has been brewing on here for quite some time. I personnally am torn on which I prefer.

I have a hard time not routing for the Jazz to win and I also love watching this team in the playoffs. The experience could be huge for the young guys and build the confidence of this team.

On the other hand this team could reallly use a good young SF and PG to go with the rest of this lineup. And I think they could get them in the draft this year.
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If we miss out on both picks and Lillard or Marshall tear it up we may be wanting to kick KOC, Corbin, and the players. One unrestricted PG to look at seriously if we dont get one in the draft will be Dragic. Played extremely well as a started in Houston.
 
The Thriller said:
Hence, why I said this isn't a black or white choice. It's complicated. I didn't say my question was perfect and addressed every single issue. But it's surely better than asking... PICK or PLAYOFFS?

Well duh, I'd rather have the playoffs.

But I want a championship run and would much rather roll the dice in the lotto than being dumped quickly in the playoffs.
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No, it's black and white. Do you want to be a winner or a loser?
 
NCJazz said:
If we miss out on both picks and Lillard or Marshall tear it up we may be wanting to kick KOC, Corbin, and the players. One unrestricted PG to look at seriously if we dont get one in the draft will be Dragic. Played extremely well as a started in Houston.
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If we want to get in the lottery we can through trades.
 
If you can get into the playoffs, then get into the playoffs. Teams that root for the lottery never get out of the lottery on any consistent basis, look at the history of teams like Sacramento, Clippers, Warriors. Getting into the playoffs will give great confidence to the young guys and the future of the team. Ty will win coach of the year. It will attract quality free agents to the team to fix the missing pieces.
 
The Thriller said:
The poll question is flawed, as you can tell by most posts in this thread.

Most are still connecting the a lotto pick with the playoffs. Whether it be through the GS pick or trade.

One can only infer that this isn't a black and white question as the pole wants to indicate.

A better question would be,

would you rather be in the playoffs as a 6-8 seed and not have any draft picks this year or miss out on the playoffs and have at least 1 lotto pick?
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It's a straight forward question. We make the playoffs and we lose our pick. We miss the playoffs we get our pick. Which would you rather have. The stuff with the GSW pick is immaterial to our situation and our pick. We have no control over that pick whatsoever.

There is no flaw with the question. You are making it far too complicated.
 
gregbroncs said:
It's a straight forward question. We make the playoffs and we lose our pick. We miss the playoffs we get our pick. Which would you rather have. The stuff with the GSW pick is immaterial to our situation and our pick. We have no control over that pick whatsoever.

There is no flaw with the question. You are making it far too complicated.
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I think he is PMSing. Maybe the stick up his *** is giving him slivers?
 
gregbroncs said:
It's a straight forward question. We make the playoffs and we lose our pick. We miss the playoffs we get our pick. Which would you rather have. The stuff with the GSW pick is immaterial to our situation and our pick. We have no control over that pick whatsoever.

There is no flaw with the question. You are making it far too complicated.
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It's The Thriller. Logic does not comply.
 
NCJazz said:
Really??? Think you way overvalue him then.
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Harris’ Numbers for this Season

PPG -10.3
RPG- 1.5
APG- 4.6
EFF- +10.82
FG%- 0.46
3p% - 0.35

His FG% and 3p% is higher this season than his career average. These are good numbers especially if you consider how he struggled at the beginning of the season.

The Last 3 games
PPG- 14, 15, 12
RPG- 1, 2, 3
APG-6, 4, 9

If you take all of this and then throw in him helping the Jazz get to the second round of the playoffs, Yeah I think his trade value will be high.
 
Gojazz79 said:
And yet that doe snot capture allt he possible outcomes either. Very complicated and not an easy answer.
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I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about, but I think this is the tool you're looking for.
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