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6-3 is probably enough to catch denver. i have them finishing with 6 wins (gsw, min, hou, lac, orl, @min) and 4 losses (@lal, @hou, @phx, @okc) but obviously some of those wins are games they could lose. if one of those flips -- maybe the home game against the clippers, or even the magic if dwight decides to play -- then 6-3 would be enough for us because of the tiebreaker.

6-3 might leave us shy of catching the rockets, who have the easiest remaining slate of opponents (.477) and will probably finish with 36 or 37 wins. they also just got lowry back.
 
theNBAnerd said:
6-3 is probably enough to catch denver. i have them finishing with 6 wins (gsw, min, hou, lac, orl, @min) and 4 losses (@lal, @hou, @phx, @okc) but obviously some of those wins are games they could lose. if one of those flips -- maybe the home game against the clippers, or even the magic if dwight decides to play -- then 6-3 would be enough for us because of the tiebreaker.

6-3 might leave us shy of catching the rockets, who have the easiest remaining slate of opponents (.477) and will probably finish with 36 or 37 wins. they also just got lowry back.
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I see now way we will catch the Rockets. That is a team with Lowery and Martin back I would not want to play in the first round. Not to mention Dragic's stellar play and the addition of Camby (if he stays healthy). Guess we could still grad that 8th seed and get crushed by the Spurs and lose our lotter pick. Sounds awesome to me.
 
Agreed. I'd pretty much concede the race to Houston, which is why I didn't mention them. They are 3 games ahead in the loss column, so that's at least three games the Jazz would have to make up. Maybe more because the tiebreaker is decided in Houston Wednesday night.

6-3 might be enough to catch Denver, but as I posted in some other thread, it's tough to imagine that the recently 3-6 Jazz are going to turn that record around and finish 6-3, especially with indications that Watson is done and who knows Miles' status. The next 6 games are 4 on the road plus SA and Dal. There are winnable games for sure, but the Jazz have lost several winnable games recently. None of them are automatic wins.

I'm not quitting on the playoffs, but there is very little margin for error at this point already 2 losses behind Dallas and Denver.
 
see what you're both saying about houston, but the schedule tells a different story, and houston has plenty of losable games left. i actually think our chances of catching houston (25 losses) are better than our chances of catching dallas (26).

the main reason i say that is because we have a chance to pick up a two-game swing against them on wednesday. without that win, there's no way we catch houston. but if we win it, i think it's very likely we wind up tied at 36 with them and we get in via the tiebreaker.
 
theNBAnerd said:
see what you're both saying about houston, but the schedule tells a different story, and houston has plenty of losable games left. i actually think our chances of catching houston (25 losses) are better than our chances of catching dallas (26).

the main reason i say that is because we have a chance to pick up a two-game swing against them on wednesday. without that win, there's no way we catch houston. but if we win it, i think it's very likely we wind up tied at 36 with them and we get in via the tiebreaker.
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I dont know Dallas is really stinking it up right now, but the final resolution of Odom may help them to focus on the task at hand.
 
theNBAnerd said:
see what you're both saying about houston, but the schedule tells a different story, and houston has plenty of losable games left. i actually think our chances of catching houston (25 losses) are better than our chances of catching dallas (26).

the main reason i say that is because we have a chance to pick up a two-game swing against them on wednesday. without that win, there's no way we catch houston. but if we win it, i think it's very likely we wind up tied at 36 with them and we get in via the tiebreaker.
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I think you're looking at the schedule for what you want to see. You're counting losable games for the Rockets and in the other thread you're counting winnable games for the Jazz. For teams in the .500 range, every game is winnable and every game is losable. You have to use the same method on both sides or you're comparing apples and oranges.

You said yourself above that Houston probably finishes with 36 or 37 wins, which means Jazz have to go 7-2 or 8-1 to tie (which means one of those wins has to be the tiebreaker).
 
How can anyone really be excited about the Jazz making the playoffs at this point. They haven't had a good win since their 6 game win streak. They will get swept or win one game. I don't want them to make the playoffs and I don't see any point to have a 4 game playoffs, vs a young talented player.
 
Most of you losers said the Jazz wouldn't even get 30 wins. You suck.....

"Beer is proof that God loves us, and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
 
sgjazzfan said:
How can anyone really be excited about the Jazz making the playoffs at this point. They haven't had a good win since their 6 game win streak. They will get swept or win one game. I don't want them to make the playoffs and I don't see any point to have a 4 game playoffs, vs a young talented player.
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Why wouldn't you want these young guys to get some playoff experience while Millsap, Harris, and Jefferson are still here to bring them there?
For all you know, the Jazz can be this years Memphis Grizzlies.

"Beer is proof that God loves us, and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
 
TheSilencer1313 said:
Why wouldn't you want these young guys to get some playoff experience while Millsap, Harris, and Jefferson are still here to bring them there?
For all you know, the Jazz can be this years Memphis Grizzlies.

"Beer is proof that God loves us, and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
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Because there will only be 2 players I care about and that I think will be part of the future that I think will have a key role in the playoffs, Hayward and Milsap.
 
sgjazzfan said:
Because there will only be 2 players I care about and that I think will be part of the future that I think will have a key role in the playoffs, Hayward and Milsap.
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Hey trying to follow your logic pattern and I believe I found your fatal flaw that got you off track and bolded it for you, hope that helps.

*just being a dick, please take no offense*
 
TheSilencer1313 said:
Why wouldn't you want these young guys to get some playoff experience while Millsap, Harris, and Jefferson are still here to bring them there?
For all you know, the Jazz can be this years Memphis Grizzlies.

"Beer is proof that God loves us, and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
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Losing our lottery pick is worth getting destroyed by the Spurs or OKC? We are not the Grizzlies from last year.
 
Obviously our best idea is to tank the rest of this year, then tank each of the next 13 years and try to get at least 7-10 #1 picks. Once we have 7-10 #1 picks, we must then tank a few more years to make up for the old legs of the first couple of #1's. Eventually, after tanking enough years we should have a whole roster of #1 picks because that is apparently the only chance we have ever.
 
Scorpjazz said:
Obviously our best idea is to tank the rest of this year, then tank each of the next 13 years and try to get at least 7-10 #1 picks. Once we have 7-10 #1 picks, we must then tank a few more years to make up for the old legs of the first couple of #1's. Eventually, after tanking enough years we should have a whole roster of #1 picks because that is apparently the only chance we have ever.
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Losing out on our potential point guard of the future is worth getting whooped in the first round?
 
Kenwood said:
I think you're looking at the schedule for what you want to see. You're counting losable games for the Rockets and in the other thread you're counting winnable games for the Jazz. For teams in the .500 range, every game is winnable and every game is losable. You have to use the same method on both sides or you're comparing apples and oranges.
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no, i am not comparing apples to oranges... it's just that in one thread the conversation was about apples and in another thread the conversation was about oranges. both teams have games they should win, games they should lose and games that could go either way. i was really just pointing out all the games i think houston COULD lose, and in a separate conversation, all the games utah COULD win.

You said yourself above that Houston probably finishes with 36 or 37 wins, which means Jazz have to go 7-2 or 8-1 to tie (which means one of those wins has to be the tiebreaker).
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some of this is moot, because i also had them losing at portland, so last night's win might be the backbreaker. but just so you see where i was coming from...

i had the jazz-rox game as a loss, BUT if they won it, it suddenly becomes much easier to make up ground on them. a jazz W tomorrow makes it so that houston only has to lose one more game unexpectedly (and the jazz have to win all the ones i have budgeted for them). that was my only point. again, less valid now because now i have houston finishing at 38 wins, but that was my thinking yesterday when i posted.
 
NCJazz said:
Losing out on our potential point guard of the future is worth getting whooped in the first round?
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maybe or maybe not, but that's beside the point since the jazz will probably be picking in a range where they're unlikely to find a franchise-changin player at any position. having a young core that has some playoff experience is better than having an even younger core with no playoff experience but one more guy.
 
Ben10 said:
Who exactly is this PG of the future you are talking about. Name please.
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Lillard, Marshall, or perhaps Wroten who probably has the most talent of the three. In free agency I would love to go after Dragic, but has probably priced himself out of our range now. If this was a case where we would just be drafting a couple of spots later I would be all for making the playoffs.
 
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