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PKM said:
Haha, MKG just mailed me a b'day present .. "the NO-1 greater" national championship hat with his signature. I called him to thank him and bitch about him writing on an otherwise great hat. He said he's emailing a video of him signing with a birthday 'song.'

I admit I'm gloating a bit .. only because he is such a great, great kidd.
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I wonder what you gave him as his b'day present to have deserved that....

1 wink = more than $1K
2 winks = more than $5K
3 winks = no comment ("may be" more than $10K)
 
BENTLEY said:
First, someone has to leap frog Golden State. This will happen.
Second, the Jazz need to get the 15 or 16 pick they're rumored to be looking to acquire.

Then Jazz can draft Marshall at 8 and Quincy Miller at 15.
Both of those guys are far from their ceilings - which I only have a moderate confidence in them reaching - but given the position the Jazz are in it's a decent gamble. If one of them pans out I'll be thrilled.
...I wonder what it will take to get that 15th pick?
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I'm ok with this. As long as we are not trading burks or any youngn. I don't hate Marshall I am just against trading any of our young guys for him.
 
Verlin said:
I'm ok with this. As long as we are not trading burks or any youngn. I don't hate Marshall I am just against trading any of our young guys for him.
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Me too. We're on the same page.
That's why I wonder what it would take to get a 15th pick. The Jazz have the Memo trade exception that I would like them to use. I wonder what else? Millsap and Jefferson are both pretty damn good so if they were to include them in a trade I'd hope we got something significant back in addition to a 15th pick. Or a better pick.
 
Maybe Holiday + pick + probably have to take Iggy off their hands. Which isn't a bad thing. He just costs a lot. But solves our SF problem while Quincy learns the position.
Like to give them Harris to replace Holiday. Don't see how that happens. How desperate are they to get rid of Iggy?

Out of Harris, Millsap, and Jefferson I'm most eager to trade Harris (although he has played better recently - still not the long term answer).
 
Favors Flave said:
we are not trading both! Have u guys watched Kanter play? I would have 0 confidence in him starting next year
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I agree. I'm not suggesting trading both. Just that they both are valuable - not as a package, but individually. Great players. So either one should nab the Jazz a decent return.
 
This thread is like going out with a hot woman who wears provactative clothing on your dates but won't even let you kiss her good night. It is so frustrating but yet you keep coming back for more.
 
Xthren said:
This thread is like going out with a hot woman who wears provactative clothing on your dates but won't even let you kiss her good night. It is so frustrating but yet you keep coming back for more.
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There's some hope. But a definite good analogy.
 
Xthren said:
This thread is like going out with a hot woman who wears provactative clothing on your dates but won't even let you kiss her good night. It is so frustrating but yet you keep coming back for more.
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Haha.. I think most of us (me included) keeps coming back here just to get an update on what PKM's been up to... his lifestyle, business interests...etc. And may be one day we'll get close enough to him that he'll shout us a drink or send us that MKG's autographed cap...

That's 21st century entertainment for ya.. LOL
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Haha.. I think most of us (me included) keeps coming back here just to get an update on what PKM's been up to... his lifestyle, business interests...etc. And may be one day we'll get close enough to him that he'll shout us a drink or send us that MKG's autographed cap...

That's 21st century entertainment for ya.. LOL
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So what you are saying is pkm is the hot woman in provactative clothing?
 
Would you guys be willing to trade the Memo TPE to absorb Darko's contract and get the #18 pick back from Minnesota? Maybe they'd even take Raja Bell in some scenario.
 
Just finished finals and caught up in this thread's rumblings, so here it goes...

I like Marshall, but wouldn't trade any of The Four to acquire him. But I would probably trade the GS pick for him, if we don't end up getting it this year.

Some of you guys need to relax about Kanter. Have you all forgotten how Hayward looked like a deer in headlights most of last year? I have a lot of faith in the guy. He's already a better rebounder and defender than Al. So yeah, plenty of room for optimism.

And why has Burks suddenly become so involved in trade ideas? He's already the second best wing we have next to Hayward and I expect him to make huge strides next year.
 
spycam1 said:
Just finished finals and caught up in this thread's rumblings, so here it goes...

I like Marshall, but wouldn't trade any of The Four to acquire him. But I would probably trade the GS pick for him, if we don't end up getting it this year.

Some of you guys need to relax about Kanter. Have you all forgotten how Hayward looked like a deer in headlights most of last year? I have a lot of faith in the guy. He's already a better rebounder and defender than Al. So yeah, plenty of room for optimism.

And why has Burks suddenly become so involved in trade ideas? He's already the second best wing we have next to Hayward and I expect him to make huge strides next year.
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I do like Burks, but I'd trade him for a solid future PG without even blinking...
 
spycam1 said:
I like Marshall, but wouldn't trade any of The Four to acquire him. But I would probably trade the GS pick for him, if we don't end up getting it this year.
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Yeah, some have been saying draft Marshall 8th if the Jazz got the GS pick THIS year.
So if the Jazz don't get the pick this year and have to wait til '13, but are able to still trade it for Marshall then it'd be like they got it this year anyway. I'd do that. The pick in '13 will be worse in a worse draft. I am only partially sold on Marshall - still have some doubts - so giving up the worse pick in a worse draft sounds fine to me.

I'm still unsure about Marshall's perceived value vs. actual value. but that's another topic.
Yeah, if you can trade the '13 pick for him then do it.

But the Jazz are getting the 8th pick this year.
 
BENTLEY said:
Yeah, some have been saying draft Marshall 8th if the Jazz got the GS pick THIS year.
So if the Jazz don't get the pick this year and have to wait til '13, but are able to still trade it for Marshall then it'd be like they got it this year anyway. I'd do that. The pick in '13 will be worse in a worse draft. I am only partially sold on Marshall - still have some doubts - so giving up the worse pick in a worse draft sounds fine to me.

I'm still unsure about Marshall's perceived value vs. actual value. but that's another topic.
Yeah, if you can trade the '13 pick for him then do it.

But the Jazz are getting the 8th pick this year.
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My thought process exactly. I'd also be fine with taking a gamble on someone like PJ3 and going after Dragic in free agency.
 
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