Theory On Why Jefferson Makes Us Better Against L.A.

[Darkwing Duck]

The biggest thing the Lakers do with bigs and defense is instruct them to keep their arms straight up. Then once the offensive player changes the ball to go around the player, go after the ball. So they'll be straight up when contact happens, avoiding the foul, then block the shot after the player adjusts his shot. Boozer loved to do that, and is good enough to do that against players his size or weaker athletically. Gasol and Odom were neither, and Bynum was too big with just enough athleticism.

Jefferson, in contrast, either shoots the short hook, and is tall enough to not be bothered by Gasol or Bynum, or plows right through them, which doesn't work against active shot blockers, but should work against guys that hold their ground.

So in that sense, it is encouraging to see what he'll do offensively against the Lakers.

 

[Hopper]

So in that sense, it is encouraging to see what he'll do offensively against the Lakers.

According to ESPN, in two games against the Lakers this year, Jefferson, even bein a focal point for the LA defense while on a weak team, averaged 19 pts on 52% shooting and 11 rebounds, in only 32 minutes against the Lakers.

https://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/splits?playerId=2389

For contrast, Boozer averaged 13.5 pts on 43% shooting, with 12 rebounds in 34 minutes (4 games, regular season).

https://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/splits?playerId=1703

 

[silesian]

-Jefferson's % of low post touches is 50%. Half the time this guy gets the ball, he's already on the low block and I think it's fair to assume that his % is only going to get higher now that he is in Utah's system.

I like your analysis, interesting theory and well articulated.

I would digree that Jefferson's low post % wil go up as he transitions from a team that dumps the ball to him in the low post to a team that thrives in pick and roll, which is fundamentally a high post offensive scheme. The Jazz will adjust to AJ and AJ will adjust to the Jazz and his % in high post will go up.

Regarding working hard of defense in high-verus-low post games, I'm not so sure. Banging bodies on the low post takes a lot out of a defender, that is for sure. But it takes quite a bit of energy to defend the pick-and-roll, you are covering a greater area of the floor, stepping out to stop the guard, recovering to cover your man, who could be just as much of a beast as the guy on the low blocks. How many defenders did the mailman grind to a pulp? He was fundamentally a high post power forward. I think it is more about WHO you are defending than WHERE you are defending them on the floor. And on that point I do agree that AJ will wear down defenders more than Boozer, who shot a fair number of pick and pops, which involve less body contact and require less energy to defend. The equivalent in the low post is a catch and shoot turnaround jumper, but AJ seems like he likes to take it to the rim.

 

[David Stern]

I can give you a shorter analysis: he's taller and longer.

 

[Hopper]

I can give you a shorter analysis: he's taller and longer.

Shorter yet: One's a pansy, one aint.

 

[freakazoid]

Ok, this won't make me popular.

Boozer career shooting % = 0.541

last year = 0.562

Big Al career shooting % = 0.503

Last year = 0.498


Anyone want to explain how Boozer is a more efficient scorer shooting jump shots than Big AL scoring in the Post?

Yeah, I told ya this wouldn't make me popular.

Defense is a wash, IMO, for the most part.


Overall, I'm stoked about the FO making this trade, because our ability to keep Deron depends upon it.

Realistically, we gave up 2 first round picks to get back a slightly different version of CB.

 

[David Stern]

Shorter yet: One's a pansy, one aint.

Thats longer than mine, *******.

 

[David Stern]

Ok, this won't make me popular.

Boozer career shooting % = 0.541

last year = 0.562

Big Al career shooting 5 = 0.503

Last year = 0.498


Anyone want to explain how Boozer is a more efficient scorer shooting jump shots than Big AL scoring in the Post?

Yeah, I told ya this wouldn't make me popular.

You son of a bitch.

 

[Hopper]

Thats longer than mine, *******.

My bad, eh? Lemme trys agin: Booza=pansy. Howze dat?

 

[Hopper]

Freek, shootin aint but part of the game. Defense aint but part of the game. But heart is the whole game.

 

[Slappfisk]

Shooting stats are not applicable. Boozer was playing with a premier point guard in a proven offensive system of which he was the focal point.

Compare them after Al's first season with the Jazz.

 

[freakazoid]

Freek, shootin aint but part of the game. Defense aint but part of the game. But hart is the whole game.

Dear God, I hope not.

 

[Hopper]

Heh, Freek, hear that.

 

[freakazoid]

Heh, Freek, hear that.

Sho nuff.

Boozer hitting jumpshots at that rate is truly unbelievable. Wanna give Deron credit for that amazing %? Go ahead.

No one hopes more than me that Big AL becomes the next big thing, and no doubt his scoring % will improve by playing with Deron. Done deal.

Just the same, Boozer's scoring % is impressive, regardless of where he got the ball when he took those shots. Deron>>>>Rose.

 

[Hopper]

Boozer hitting jumpshots at that rate is truly unbelievable.

Yeah, it is. At his rate, versus Al's, he might even score 2 more point a game if they both took 15 shots. Course he could also give up 3 more points a game than Al. Since defense is a team thing, what I really mean is that the team might give up 3 less points a game with Al on the floor versus Boozer. Remains to be seen, I guess.

 

[freakazoid]

Yeah, it is. At his rate, versus Al's, he might even score 2 more point a game if they both took 15 shots. Course he could also give up 3 more points a game than Al. Since defense is a team thing, what I really mean is that the team might give up 3 less points a game with Al on the floor versus Boozer. Remains to be seen, I guess.

Fine.

Also gotta look at Minny, and why they gave up on big Al. It aint nuthin like he was too good at defense, eh homie?

 

[Hopper]

Fine.

Also gotta look at Minny, and why they gave up on big Al. It aint nuthin like he was too good at defense, eh homie?

Well, unlike Booza, at least, Al says he wants Sloan to ruff his *** up to make him mo betta on D. And Sloan is just the guy to do it, too. At least if that's what a guy really wants. A natural-born candyass like Booza can't be helped--no matter what he "says."

 

[DutchJazzer]

Ok, this won't make me popular.

Boozer career shooting % = 0.541

last year = 0.562

Big Al career shooting % = 0.503

Last year = 0.498


Anyone want to explain how Boozer is a more efficient scorer shooting jump shots than Big AL scoring in the Post?

Yeah, I told ya this wouldn't make me popular.

Defense is a wash, IMO, for the most part.


Overall, I'm stoked about the FO making this trade, because our ability to keep Deron depends upon it.

Realistically, we gave up 2 first round picks to get back a slightly different version of CB.

also note that sloan/jazz inflates players fg%. becuase of the style jazz play. for a reason jazz are always top 3 in fg%. so expect a rise in jeffersons fg%

 

[freakazoid]

Look man, I'm very happy for Deron to have a new team, which is very talented, and has promise to achieve new heights.

Just the same, I'm willing to bet that 1/2 this board will flip their lid after a big loss, and cry like hell about the 2 picks we spent to land Big Al, thus turning on KOC as a failure.

This happens by Dec. 15.

That's my opinion. Hope I'm wrong4u.

 

[Hopper]

Just the same, I'm willing to bet that 1/2 this board will flip their lid after a big loss, and cry like hell about the 2 picks we spent to land Big Al, thus turning on KOC as a failure.

This happens by Dec. 15. Hope I'm wrong4u.

No Jazz loss until Dec. 15!? I hope yo right, not wrong, eh?