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Wisconsin has moved from "leans Dem" to "toss up". The latest national polls show Romney with a 3% lead.

While it appears that Obama has the lead in individual states that lead is drastically narowing and is within margin of error in some polls. It appears that N.C and Florida are going back and forth on who has the lead. Wisconsin and Iowa have narrowed...

Interesting race and I think that if Obama does not step it up and get serious he will lose this.
 
The last week or so has seen a shift in Romneys favor. So I still maintain that Obama could lose this. I think the right is more animated then the left for this election. Recent polls also show Romney ahead in women and independents.

It is by no means over but this has turned into a real race. Interesting (to me at least)

@KOC, I know you can be better than stuff like that.
 
The fact it's close means the Republicans have put up an awful candidate. Obama hasn't done much and the economy is stagnant. Think George H.W. Bush. But that year the Dems nominated a candidate worth a damn.

I remember in 04 thinking Bush the 2nd had no chance. I mean, everyone could see what an idiot he was and the he started meaningless wars, who would really vote for him? And the the Dems nominated John Kerry, and the wheels fell off even though it was a race decided by one state.
 
Nate505 said:
The fact it's close means the Republicans have put up an awful candidate. Obama hasn't done much and the economy is stagnant. Think George H.W. Bush. But that year the Dems nominated a candidate worth a damn.

I remember in 04 thinking Bush the 2nd had no chance. I mean, everyone could see what an idiot he was and the he started meaningless wars, who would really vote for him? And the the Dems nominated John Kerry, and the wheels fell off even though it was a race decided by one state.
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The sad thing is that only candidates that are not worth a damn are the only ones given the money and support to get elected. I wonder why that is? (rhetorical)


Hi Ron Paul supporters!
 
Stoked said:
The last week or so has seen a shift in Romneys favor. So I still maintain that Obama could lose this. I think the right is more animated then the left for this election. Recent polls also show Romney ahead in women and independents.

It is by no means over but this has turned into a real race. Interesting (to me at least)

@KOC, I know you can be better than stuff like that.
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I know I could give examples of GOPer saying absurd things. But, it doesn't seem to matter no matter what the facts are it seems that the republicans have the whole sheep thing down. There are things Obama has done that I'm not a fan of. But, for the most part when he opens his mouth I don't have to be afraid of what might come out.

This video seems pretty accurate to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMvwlyccVOc
 
I have come to feel like the outcome of the presidential election will impact this country about as much as the winner of the NBA title. It's fun to get behind a candidate and argue with the fans of the other candidate and act as though one person will save the country while the other will destroy it, but in the end it seems all presidents do what they're told after they get the big boy talk, aka "security briefing."
 
KOC BEGONE said:
I know I could give examples of GOPer saying absurd things. But, it doesn't seem to matter no matter what the facts are it seems that the republicans have the whole sheep thing down. There are things Obama has done that I'm not a fan of. But, for the most part when he opens his mouth I don't have to be afraid of what might come out.
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You mean like visiting all 57 states?
 
Ok you went with way different arguements there KOC. Do right wingers say stupid things? Sure they do. They do it all the time. Does that mean that all they say is stupid? No. The left do the same thing. I mean for proof of that go no further than the V.P. The king of the gaffe. Does that mean all the left (and more to the point Biden) only make gaffes? That is as untrue as saying it about the right.

Both sides have their positives and negatives. You might want to accept that.
 
Gameface said:
I have come to feel like the outcome of the presidential election will impact this country about as much as the winner of the NBA title. It's fun to get behind a candidate and argue with the fans of the other candidate and act as though one person will save the country while the other will destroy it, but in the end it seems all presidents do what they're told after they get the big boy talk, aka "security briefing."
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That is what I was alluding to in my comment about only candidates that are not worth a damn are nominated...
 
Gameface said:
I have come to feel like the outcome of the presidential election will impact this country about as much as the winner of the NBA title. It's fun to get behind a candidate and argue with the fans of the other candidate and act as though one person will save the country while the other will destroy it, but in the end it seems all presidents do what they're told after they get the big boy talk, aka "security briefing."
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You are just depressed after years with an incompetent uninspiring president. Just a change in economic outlook and policies could make a big difference.
 
The fact that no GOP candidate seems viable or likely to win to me tells me that I need to work harder on my sense of perspective. I just don't get it. The GOP sucks so bad that it strains my brain to fathom that it exists.
 
Stoked said:
Ok you went with way different arguements there KOC. Do right wingers say stupid things? Sure they do. They do it all the time. Does that mean that all they say is stupid? No. The left do the same thing. I mean for proof of that go no further than the V.P. The king of the gaffe. Does that mean all the left (and more to the point Biden) only make gaffes? That is as untrue as saying it about the right.

Both sides have their positives and negatives. You might want to accept that.
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Dems don't have all the right answers. And Dems say some things that are dumb. But, serious you can't tell me that GOP could give a dam about the middle class, working poor, unemployed, women's rights, civil rights (ya that includes gay people), and the list goes on. They are pushing ideas that promote hate and inequality. Mean while the whole time they come out and tell you to your face they are for the rich and big business. I would love to see anyone on this site that is making $200,000 + tell me that they are struggling the same as the everyday America.
 
Then on top of all that they flaunt religion like it is a flag that they need to raise. Using Jesus as a way to promote capitalism and inequality. When the very things he stood for would stand in complete opposition to all of the platforms GOPer push.
 
KOC BEGONE said:
Dems don't have all the right answers. And Dems say some things that are dumb. But, serious you can't tell me that GOP could give a dam about the middle class, working poor, unemployed, women's rights, civil rights (ya that includes gay people), and the list goes on. They are pushing ideas that promote hate and inequality. Mean while the whole time they come out and tell you to your face they are for the rich and big business. I would love to see anyone on this site that is making $200,000 + tell me that they are struggling the same as the everyday America.
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Can you with a stright face tell me that the left believes in my freedom to do as I wish? In working poor, gun rights, religious freedom, the middle class, rule of law, the chance to succees, racial equality, tolerance...

See how easy that is.

Do I think the GOP establishment has my best interests at heart? Only as far as I can throw them. Coincidently that lands them right next to the establishment Dems.
 
KOC BEGONE said:
Dems don't have all the right answers. And Dems say some things that are dumb. But, serious you can't tell me that GOP could give a dam about the middle class, working poor, unemployed, women's rights, civil rights (ya that includes gay people), and the list goes on. They are pushing ideas that promote hate and inequality. Mean while the whole time they come out and tell you to your face they are for the rich and big business. I would love to see anyone on this site that is making $200,000 + tell me that they are struggling the same as the everyday America.
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KOC BEGONE said:
Then on top of all that they flaunt religion like it is a flag that they need to raise. Using Jesus as a way to promote capitalism and inequality. When the very things he stood for would stand in complete opposition to all of the platforms GOPer push.
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Put the DNC handbook down and just walk away... walk away, man.
 
KOC BEGONE said:
Then on top of all that they flaunt religion like it is a flag that they need to raise. Using Jesus as a way to promote capitalism and inequality. When the very things he stood for would stand in complete opposition to all of the platforms GOPer push.
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Just as much as the left flaunts big brother, all encompasing government as the answer to everything. Using government as the way to create the entitlement class and a dependency on the governemnt for everything.
 
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