Duck Rodgers
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"It is a big *** market but those Jewish people are crazy, aren't they?"
If that was said about New York City, dude wouldn't have job, especially since there is huge Jewish enclaves in Miami. Archie wins.
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"It is a big *** market but those Jewish people are crazy, aren't they?"
If that was said about New York City, dude wouldn't have job, especially since there is huge Jewish enclaves in Miami. Archie wins.
TheMulletMutilator
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Religions everywhere are subject to ridicule all the time. We should just leave it at that.
Duck Rodgers
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And that's the way it should be. It doesn't change the fact that it is not like that though. Here is a fun game for you, google, "Jewish outrage", "Mulslim outrage", "Catholic outrage", "Mormon outrage" and see what kind of results you get.
Muslim outrage = 115,000
Catholic outrage = 8,520
Jewish outrage - 7,320
Scientology outrage = 1,220
Mormon outrage = 193
I won't say anymore. Not exactly scientific, but a good little google experiment that I think has some validity.
Sloanfeld
Banned
Sloan, he ROCKS, eh?
JJ Rage
Active Member
Ignoring the fact that you failed to separate the different sects of Judaism and Islam, ever stop to think those numbers might just have a little to do with the amount of Catholics in the world compared to the amount of Mormons?
Everyone religion gets made fun of. And then people from that religion piss and moan about it. The end.
TheMulletMutilator
Member
Exactly
Duck Rodgers
Well-Known Member
Muslim 595/1 = 7 trillion Muslims
Catholic 44/1 = 573 million Cathloics
Jews 38/1 = 494 million Jews
Scientology 6/1 = 78 million Scientologists
Mormons 1/1 = 13 million Mormons
You're not very smart.
Catholic 44/1 = 573 million Cathloics
Jews 38/1 = 494 million Jews
Scientology 6/1 = 78 million Scientologists
Mormons 1/1 = 13 million Mormons
You're not very smart.
Mormons and Jews have comparable numbers.
Duck Rodgers
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Again, obviously my little google experiment wasn't serious, but I think it does confirm some real world things. According to google and comparing the numbers to the actual demographics of each religion would leave the don't **** with me depth chart like this:
1. Mulisms
2. Scientologists
3. Jews
4. Mormons
5. Catholics
I think that's pretty accurate to the real world. Mormons and Catholics are largely known as pushovers and don't really care what you say about them too much. You offend a Muslim or a Jew, you're more likely to hear about it or face real world repercussions.
Anyway, we already know Carlos is generally a bright guy. So props to him for not taking the bait. Apparently he learns from his past.
1. Mulisms
2. Scientologists
3. Jews
4. Mormons
5. Catholics
I think that's pretty accurate to the real world. Mormons and Catholics are largely known as pushovers and don't really care what you say about them too much. You offend a Muslim or a Jew, you're more likely to hear about it or face real world repercussions.
Anyway, we already know Carlos is generally a bright guy. So props to him for not taking the bait. Apparently he learns from his past.
I still hate his guts and liver and pray that he doesn't come back. He's a good player, but mark my words, his stats will go down as soon as he leaves this system. Some poor team is going to be stuck with a really solid role player and a crappy contract to boot.
Please don't be the Jazz.
Please don't be the Jazz.
Archie Moses
Well-Known Member
What if the guy said this talking about San Francisco?
Would you have a problem with that or no?
Would you have a problem with that or no?
JJ Rage
Active Member
So homosexuality is a religion in your eyes? You can't compare sexual orientation to a conscious choice like religion.
Regardless, at no point was I (or anyone else in this thread, from what I can tell) defending this windbag radio DJ. The point was, all groups get made fun of, religious or otherwise. The reason no one is up in arms about what he said has nothing to do with it being about Mormons, and everything to do with the fact that he's some douchey radio DJ. This is what radio DJs do. It's not worth getting all upset about.
Archie Moses
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I never said anyone is defending him. I'm just asking a question that you avoided. Mostly just playing the devils advocate, but at the same time, you can't say to people that they can't get offended if someone makes fun their belief or religion or puts them in a stereotype. (Just so you know, I'm not offended at all) So could you answer the question?
I would say that sexual orientation is only slightly less of a choice than religion. While you do not choose whom you're attracted to, you certainly choose whom to be with. Similarly, religion is a choice in the case of converts. But for non-converts, most simply believe what they were brought up to believe (the vast majority of believers were born in that faith). So the choice was made for them. Even when/if they gain enough knowledge to make "choice" a possibility, it is often very difficult to break away from your established environment.
JJ Rage
Active Member
I believe I did answer the question, in a manner of speaking. A) You can't compare religion to sexual orientation in this case because religion is a choice and sexual orientation is not. Ragging on a group for something they were born with is far more inappropriate. In a similar vein, it would be like saying "How about those mentally disabled kids?".
B) Quite honestly, I don't care about anything this guy says because he's some pea-brained radio DJ saying things to try to elicit a certain response. That's what DJs do. That and the fact that his knowledge of the LDS church is probably limited to what he sees on Big Love. Why give his statements any credence? Why get all up in arms over the words of an imbecile?
JJ Rage
Active Member
Religion is 100% choice. I was raised by a Baptist family and here I am as an adult, having freed myself from any sort of religious branding. Upbringing might make it hard to abandon your faith, but it's certainly not a biological impossibility. You can't be biologically religious. It's not like Christians are attracted to Jesus against their will.
Here's a fun little game for you.
"John Mayer outrage" = 70,300 results
"republican outrage" = 28,500
"Pedophile outrage" = 34 results
"Rape Victim outrage" = 8 results
"green party outrage" = 5 results
"Chuck norris outrage" = 1 result
I won't say anymore. Not exactly scientific, but a good little google experiment that I think has some validity.
This arbitrary choice of google search terms, all in one language, really proves my point I think.
Again, obviously my little google experiment wasn't serious, but I think it does confirm some real world things. According to google, the don't **** with me depth chart looks like this:
1. John Mayer
2. republicans
3. Pedophiles
4. Rape Victims
5. The Green Party
6. Chuck Norris
I think that's pretty accurate to the real world. Chuck Norris is largely known as a pushover and doesn't really care what you say about him too much. You offend John Mayer, you're more likely to hear about it or face real world repercussions.
"John Mayer outrage" = 70,300 results
"republican outrage" = 28,500
"Pedophile outrage" = 34 results
"Rape Victim outrage" = 8 results
"green party outrage" = 5 results
"Chuck norris outrage" = 1 result
I won't say anymore. Not exactly scientific, but a good little google experiment that I think has some validity.
This arbitrary choice of google search terms, all in one language, really proves my point I think.
Again, obviously my little google experiment wasn't serious, but I think it does confirm some real world things. According to google, the don't **** with me depth chart looks like this:
1. John Mayer
2. republicans
3. Pedophiles
4. Rape Victims
5. The Green Party
6. Chuck Norris
I think that's pretty accurate to the real world. Chuck Norris is largely known as a pushover and doesn't really care what you say about him too much. You offend John Mayer, you're more likely to hear about it or face real world repercussions.
Ah, that's what I call street objectivist logic. Biology is not the only relevant force here. Do you think it a coincidence that most people believe the same thing as their parents? We are biologically designed as to trust our parents, as that is essential to the survival of the species. Living in certain environment for a prolonged period, specially in formative years, makes defection a challenge. Depending on how religious the family is, coverting (or deconverting) can have significant impact on personal (and business as is sometimes the case in LDS religion) relationships. It is not as simple as you seem to have convinced yourself.
Additionally, neither biology nor choice bear a connection to how offensive something is. Being offended is an emotional response. Most would be more offended if someone called their spouse a loudmouthed b, than if they mocked their height by asking them the weather "up there". The first is an offense on your choice (in marriage) and your spouse's. The second is mocking an out of your control biological trait.
Point is, people can make fun of whoever they want. The idiot journalist has the right to attack the Mormons, and the all the Mormons can do is accept it (or complain to deaf ears). Fact remains, he comes off as an unprofessional douche.
JJ Rage
Active Member
Being biologically inclined to trust our parents is far different that being biologically religious. People are born gay, they're not born Christian. They're raised to be a Christian.
Regardless, I think we can all agree this DJ is a jackass and has no business being anywhere near a live microphone.
