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Following potential 2012 draftees

Catchall said:
Well, I still see him as a better prospect than PJIII. To be honest, I think he'll be better than Paul George, and I was a fan of drafting Paul George.
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They're pretty equal in my opinion .. both have the same knock .. as outlined 600 pages ago.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Freak touched on this in his interview with Locke.

Kanter & Favors are both Center in his opinion (Favors struggled guarding stretch 4 to the perimeter).

So even though we've always viewed Kanter & Favors as our corner stone at C and PF, I'd trade Kanter for a proven player (say Rondo) or a stud rookie (Beal). May be give up a bit more to get Rondo and get something back as well for Beal.
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I guess that failed I was referring to you doing kanter. Oh well better luck next time I guess.
 
dalamon said:
Twas a good thread, surprised that it is about to be irrelevant in less than 24 hours. Kudos to us.
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i Read through the whole thread the other day to see how much opinions Changed and who was right and stuff like that. it is crazy That a 600 page thread will be useless after tomorrow ha ha ha
 
Random Musings:

* Anthony Davis has ways to go development-wise, but will probably develop a legit go-to offensive game within 2 - 3 years.

* Thomas Robinson is an excellent PF prospect. He's getting slept on if he doesn't go #2.

* MKG is overrated. Too much limelight at Kentucky makes the next Gerald Wallace a high lotto pick. He wasn't the college player Grant Hill was.

* I'm a fan of Brad Beal, but don't really see him as a top-3 pick in a strong draft. Think he could be a rich man's Ben Gordon or a slightly more versatile Eric Gordon.

* Terrence Ross is the Alec Burks of this draft (except he drives less and shoots from range better). He and Jeremy Lamb are going to be smooth offensive players in ways that make Gordon Hayward look clumsy. Lamb will be a better pro than college player.

* PJIII doesn't really have a position, unless you like tall, thin finesse PFs like Golden State used to draft.

* John Henson is like PJIII except he excels at defense instead of offense.

* Terrence Jones should be the 2nd best PF after Thomas Robinson (assuming Davis starts out at SF), but people are rating John Henson above him.

* Andre Drummond is still going to be a beast in this league and should go top 5. But a one-armed revivified Frankenstein monster could hit free-throws at a better clip than 29%. That's just wack.

* I guarantee you that Houston wants a starting-caliber center, but I'll be surprised if they get Dwight Howard. They'll definitely trade one of their earlier picks for a center, or they'll get stuck with Zeller and Montiejunas sitting next to each other on the bench. That said, I'm not sure if they have what it takes to get Jefferson. Tough call.
 
Catchall said:
Random Musings:

* Anthony Davis has ways to go development-wise, but will probably develop a legit go-to offensive game within 2 - 3 years.

* Thomas Robinson is an excellent PF prospect. He's getting slept on if he doesn't go #2.

* MKG is overrated. Too much limelight at Kentucky makes the next Gerald Wallace a high lotto pick. He wasn't the college player Grant Hill was.

* I'm a fan of Brad Beal, but don't really see him as a top-3 pick in a strong draft. Think he could be a rich man's Ben Gordon or a slightly more versatile Eric Gordon.

* Terrence Ross is the Alec Burks of this draft (except he drives less and shoots from range better). He and Jeremy Lamb are going to be smooth offensive players in ways that make Gordon Hayward look clumsy. Lamb will be a better pro than college player.

* PJIII doesn't really have a position, unless you like tall, thin finesse PFs like Golden State used to draft.

* John Henson is like PJIII except he excels at defense instead of offense.

* Terrence Jones should be the 2nd best PF after Thomas Robinson (assuming Davis starts out at SF), but people are rating John Henson above him.

* Andre Drummond is still going to be a beast in this league and should go top 5. But a one-armed revivified Frankenstein monster could hit free-throws at a better clip than 29%. That's just wack.

* I guarantee you that Houston wants a starting-caliber center, but I'll be surprised if they get Dwight Howard. They'll definitely trade one of their earlier picks for a center, or they'll get stuck with Zeller and Montiejunas sitting next to each other on the bench. That said, I'm not sure if they have what it takes to get Jefferson. Tough call.
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I Agree that T Jones should be drafted high. I like him better then robinson but I think your way off on Beal i Mean i dunno how good hell be but Eric Gordon is ****ing DIRTY.. If he is healthy he will be an all star and a top 15 player in the league. No shot Beal becomes a better version of him if E Gordon can stay Healthy. For starters Beal has nowhere near the handle of EG. Dont get me wrong tho I really like Beal but im real high on Eric Gordon
 
Catchall said:
Random Musings:

* Anthony Davis has ways to go development-wise, but will probably develop a legit go-to offensive game within 2 - 3 years.

* Thomas Robinson is an excellent PF prospect. He's getting slept on if he doesn't go #2.

* MKG is overrated. Too much limelight at Kentucky makes the next Gerald Wallace a high lotto pick. He wasn't the college player Grant Hill was.

* I'm a fan of Brad Beal, but don't really see him as a top-3 pick in a strong draft. Think he could be a rich man's Ben Gordon or a slightly more versatile Eric Gordon.

* Terrence Ross is the Alec Burks of this draft (except he drives less and shoots from range better). He and Jeremy Lamb are going to be smooth offensive players in ways that make Gordon Hayward look clumsy. Lamb will be a better pro than college player.

* PJIII doesn't really have a position, unless you like tall, thin finesse PFs like Golden State used to draft.

* John Henson is like PJIII except he excels at defense instead of offense.

* Terrence Jones should be the 2nd best PF after Thomas Robinson (assuming Davis starts out at SF), but people are rating John Henson above him.

* Andre Drummond is still going to be a beast in this league and should go top 5. But a one-armed revivified Frankenstein monster could hit free-throws at a better clip than 29%. That's just wack.

* I guarantee you that Houston wants a starting-caliber center, but I'll be surprised if they get Dwight Howard. They'll definitely trade one of their earlier picks for a center, or they'll get stuck with Zeller and Montiejunas sitting next to each other on the bench. That said, I'm not sure if they have what it takes to get Jefferson. Tough call.
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I disagree.
 
I'm judging Eric Gordon based on what he did this year and International ball a couple summers ago. Yeah, Beal probably isn't a 20-pt. scorer, but I think he'll pass better and get to the rim a bit better. That's why I say 'versatile.' A lot of teams are treating Beal like he's the second gem in the draft after Davis.
 
Interesting stats on Harrison Barnes. Thought I'd share them with you.


Barnes played 75 games at carolina. Here are two 11 game blocks (nearly 30% of his career games) to consider:

Barnes A: FG 52.0%, 3PFG 52.0%, RBD 5.9, PTS 21.0
Barnes B: FG 41.5%, 3PFG 31.4%, RBD 4.0, PTS 15.8

Barnes A are cumulative stats from 11 career games against BC, Clemson, GT, and VT. Those stats are All-American quality, if you can maintain over the course of most of a season.

Barnes B stats are from 11 career games against teams that likely featured multiple NBA draft picks (Duke, UK, MSU, '11 Texas, Kansas) or competition as comparable to the next level as he could've seen while at UNC.
 
Catchall said:
Random Musings:

* Anthony Davis has ways to go development-wise, but will probably develop a legit go-to offensive game within 2 - 3 years.

* Thomas Robinson is an excellent PF prospect. He's getting slept on if he doesn't go #2.

* MKG is overrated. Too much limelight at Kentucky makes the next Gerald Wallace a high lotto pick. He wasn't the college player Grant Hill was.

* I'm a fan of Brad Beal, but don't really see him as a top-3 pick in a strong draft. Think he could be a rich man's Ben Gordon or a slightly more versatile Eric Gordon.

* Terrence Ross is the Alec Burks of this draft (except he drives less and shoots from range better). He and Jeremy Lamb are going to be smooth offensive players in ways that make Gordon Hayward look clumsy. Lamb will be a better pro than college player.

* PJIII doesn't really have a position, unless you like tall, thin finesse PFs like Golden State used to draft.

* John Henson is like PJIII except he excels at defense instead of offense.

* Terrence Jones should be the 2nd best PF after Thomas Robinson (assuming Davis starts out at SF), but people are rating John Henson above him.

* Andre Drummond is still going to be a beast in this league and should go top 5. But a one-armed revivified Frankenstein monster could hit free-throws at a better clip than 29%. That's just wack.

* I guarantee you that Houston wants a starting-caliber center, but I'll be surprised if they get Dwight Howard. They'll definitely trade one of their earlier picks for a center, or they'll get stuck with Zeller and Montiejunas sitting next to each other on the bench. That said, I'm not sure if they have what it takes to get Jefferson. Tough call.
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- agreed
- agreed
- he was slotted, by DX, to go #1 in the draft before he chose UK .. while still in HS.
- agree
- hmmmm, disagree
- more a matter of intestinal fortitude.
- ouch, terrible comparison .. and Henson has underrated offense.
- He's much like PJ3 and QM .. he has all of it, but it.
- agree agree agree
- yup
 
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