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Welcome back to Salt Lake - Mo Williams

Cyrone Torbin said:
Don't trade Devin, Williams and Harris have intense rivalry that boost each others play, giving us some really good PG play.

Don't trade Devin, Williams gets the starting job and Harris goes back to being a deflated inner-tube of a basketball player.

Trade Devin and get crappy players back.

Hopefully the 1st one happens.
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I'd do Devin + TE + future draft picks. Picks are so valuable nowadays under the new CBA so I'll be happy with future picks.

Brian T. Smith ‏@tribjazz
Just told by source with knowledge of situation Jazz plan to pick up Jamaal Tinsley's option. If it becomes official, Jazz will have ...
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They also just picked up Tinsley so chances of trading Harris IMO just went up.
 
The Jazz may still be looking at the Jefferson/Earl Watson deal for Iguodala. I'm not saying the Jazz won't trade Harris, but they could go with Harris/Williams/Tinsely as PGs.

There could be something else cooking here, which might explain why KOC was especially tight-lipped even after media were prematurely reporting this as a done deal.
 
theNBAnerd said:
nah, i wouldn't say i don't like him. i'm not as ga-ga as the rest of the board, but he does some nice things. fact is, his agent would have opted out if there was a huge market for him in that price range, and there wasn't.

so instead we get a guy with great range on his shot, which is certainly something we need. he rarely attacks the basket, doesn't set other players up to score, and doesn't get to the FT line, but if you have two PGs of the harris/mo caliber, i think you can compete most nights.
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Few teams need Mo's specialties as much as the Jazz do. I want you to rewatch the SA series and tell me why all 5 SA defenders are in the paint, probably cracking jokes to each other. Mo is a good fit, and wouldn't mind if KOC extended him before he even played a game here.
 
nightmare3983 said:
My bad. I thought it was relatively simple. I guess I hadn't tried doing it myself as I don't start many threads.
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No no - my bad bro. It's not been changed for you :)

I've just figured it out - when you click "Edit Post" there is a button called "Advanced Edit". Click that and you can change the title.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
So 39% is elite now?
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Career 39% is elite. Ray Allen is a 40% career 3pt shooter and is considered the best ever. So yeah, 39% for your career is elite. Especially when you consider that Williams isn't a 3pt specialist, like a Korver, who you just roll out to specifically shoot 3's. Williams has more responsibilities than that and shoots 39% for his career.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
I'd do Devin + TE + future draft picks. Picks are so valuable nowadays under the new CBA so I'll be happy with future picks.



They also just picked up Tinsley so chances of trading Harris IMO just went up.
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True, unless they are planning on trading Watson.
 
This is just a rare blunder for KOC. He's usually a pretty shrewd negotiator -- the Al and Deron deals, in particular, were excellent. Fortunately he doesn't make the types of catastrophic blunders 90% of other GM's make so it's forgivable.

Less forgivable is his lack of perspective on what the TPE was supposed to get us.
 
A few years ago on another board I had a username that included Mo's name in it. Of course I had to change it when Mo among others went to other teams. I should be glad he's back but I can't shake my concern of picking up another vet near the end of his career coming out of a bad situation. Raja, Jamaal, Devin, Earl, Josh; all players who came here and had varying degrees of success, but none preformed at their former primes for the Jazz.

Having said that, I think it could work assuming that other things are done to and I liked him when he was here. Tough kid, maybe he can teach some toughness to the rest of the team. He might even teach Devin toughness.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Career 39% is elite. Ray Allen is a 40% career 3pt shooter and is considered the best ever. So yeah, 39% for your career is elite. Especially when you consider that Williams isn't a 3pt specialist, like a Korver, who you just roll out to specifically shoot 3's. Williams has more responsibilities than that and shoots 39% for his career.
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Fair points but I wouldn't call it elite.
 
'The Los Angeles Clippers acquired Lamar Odom from the Dallas Mavericks as part of a four-team trade also involving the Utah Jazz and Houston Rockets.

The Clippers sent point guard Mo Williams to the Jazz and the draft rights to Furkan Aldemir, the Clippers’ second round selection (53rd overall) in the 2012 NBA Draft to Houston while the Jazz conveyed the draft rights of Tadija Dragicevic, Utah’s second round pick (53rd overall) in the 2008 NBA Draft to Dallas.

To complete the trade, Dallas sent the draft rights of Shan Foster, the Mavericks’ second round selection (51st overall) in the 2008 NBA Draft to the Jazz with Houston sending cash considerations to Dallas.'

Via RealGM Staff Report


Read more: https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/221896/Odom_Williams_Four_Team_Trade_Completed#ixzz1zEal4Yru

source: realgm.com
 
billyshelby said:
This is just a rare blunder for KOC. He's usually a pretty shrewd negotiator -- the Al and Deron deals, in particular, were excellent. Fortunately he doesn't make the types of catastrophic blunders 90% of other GM's make so it's forgivable.

Less forgivable is his lack of perspective on what the TPE was supposed to get us.
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Who should he have gotten for the TPE? A low risk since he is expiring next year. A player that fits a need in outside shooting. There are not many players out there that teams want to dump and get nothing back for that are worth having on the roster, especially with the amnesty clause. I guess maybe we could have included the GS pick and got someone a little better but I am positive KOC has 1 or more moves that will happen this off-season or start of the season that we need assets for.
 
billyshelby said:
This is just a rare blunder for KOC. He's usually a pretty shrewd negotiator -- the Al and Deron deals, in particular, were excellent. Fortunately he doesn't make the types of catastrophic blunders 90% of other GM's make so it's forgivable.

Less forgivable is his lack of perspective on what the TPE was supposed to get us.
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I think Cuban is looking at around $2.4m to buy out Odom VS giving Odom to a conference rival in the Clippers and giving Williams to us. On top of that you're asking him to send a draft pick our way as well? I think that's a tough ask...

Another thing to consider - we were gonna have to pay for Okur's 2 year deal - so by not having him last year, we already saved around $8m. To look at it another way - instead of saving the whole amount, we'd be saving half the amount - which we should already be happy with.

Plus we got Williams as a bonus. It's basically Okur for Williams and saving $8m in the process (credit Locke for this analysis).
 
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