Question for Mormons
- Thread starter Gyp Rosetti
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Terrible mischaracterization. You called me a non-mormon (correct). You also stated I got my info from non-mormons (wrong). Then you inferred that I got my information from an anti-mormon website (wrong). Glad you chose to ignore 2/3 of your own post in order to be right. Whatever, though, bro .. keep on keepin on.
hahahaha .. nice catch.
CONAN
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Oh the horror!!!
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Always funny when people infer about others inferences though.
What you failed to realize is that the post isn't necessarily directed at you (unless of course you fit the criteria in which case it is directed at you). It was a general statement. But you took it personally and did the the whole I'm going to climb on my cross now rant. Hence, I inferred I was dealing with a female.
CONAN
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Ya my bad. Haven't read a lot of his material. Could only go off of his response to a post I didn't even direct at him. And that response was girlish and I took a chance. Missed.
CONAN
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Decaf is your friend.
Mr. McGibblets
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From Conan's neg rep to me: "Sorry Guy. Not a fan of addressing issues from anti-mormon websites. Talk about making Mormons look bad."
I think your posts give the non Mormons here a more negative opinion about us than my quotes from church leaders. Why don't you address the actual quotes themselves made by the church leaders rather than the website that compiled them?
I'm sorry that you feel that statements made by our church leaders make Mormons look bad, but why do you neg me for posting statements published in official first presidency statements and the Ensign? Just because I linked to an "anti" site that has compiled them rather than posting 12 different links to lds.org? Surprisingly there isn't a page about Mormons views on oral sex posted on Mormon.org so I linked to somewhere that did.
Archie Moses
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My mission president told a few of us missionaries once that what happens between husband and wife behind closed doors is like Vegas.
Prostitutes are allowed?
Archie Moses
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This pretty much sealed the deal as far as my "conversion".
Also, Conan, dude... Silence, Peck!
maybe it's the smell of weed on your metallica shirt?
CONAN
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Agreed. Not sure what all the fuss is about.
CONAN
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From gibblets neg rep of me: Why don't you address the actual sources used for the quotes and not just the website that posts them? It makes us Mormons look bad when we don't address the actual issue and just attack the site or intentions of the person quoting our prophets.
You seem like one of those guys that likes to engage the haters. I'm not saying there are haters here (there might be but I'm not talking about that). I'm saying like at Temple Square or maybe at the Manti pageant. Or maybe anti-mormon websites. I'll never understand that part as far as looking for those fights (going to those websites or walking up to those people). If that's not you then sorry. I just don't think that's a healthy approach to these types of discussions.
Why not start from the truth? You cannot find anything official from the Church so you go to an anti- site to find it. Ya, that's not suspicious at all.
As far as others having a neg opinion of mormons because of me, well, if they're that shallow then so be it. But no question I'm not a perfect mormon and not a good example for others to look at. I don't sugarcoat and can be very blunt (I like talking here versus via PM or neg repping people). No question there. But I'm not going to meet people halfway by using an anti-mormon website to try to bridge the gap. That's not right. There are better ways.
I didn't neg rep you for posting statements. I neg repped you because I don't agree with your methods. Which honestly I couldn't care less about but since you engaged me I'll play ball.
7StraightIsGreat
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Great thread so far. The stuff I've found most interesting is the debate about what may or may not be permissible in the bedroom between 2 married people and the role(s) bishops and other higher ups in the LDS church play as far as being able to counsel couples in matters of the bedroom. Serious question for the LDS folk in the know:
I understand that the LDS Church has volunteer, non-payed clergy and that most of your bishops hold regular full time jobs just like the rest of us. That being said, do they have actual qualifications in regards to marrige counseling, sexual therapy, etc? When they are given the calling of Bishop, do they get any specific training that will help them in those areas, or are they just handed religious doctorine and told to stick to the guidelines?
Not a poke at the LDS church, but if there isn't some type of training in place, it seems pretty dangerous to be seeking marital and sexual counsel from Larry the funiture salesman who just happens to be a Bishop on the weekend.
I understand that the LDS Church has volunteer, non-payed clergy and that most of your bishops hold regular full time jobs just like the rest of us. That being said, do they have actual qualifications in regards to marrige counseling, sexual therapy, etc? When they are given the calling of Bishop, do they get any specific training that will help them in those areas, or are they just handed religious doctorine and told to stick to the guidelines?
Not a poke at the LDS church, but if there isn't some type of training in place, it seems pretty dangerous to be seeking marital and sexual counsel from Larry the funiture salesman who just happens to be a Bishop on the weekend.
To my knowledge there are no qualifications beyond being a member in good standing and be married in a 'temple' marriage. I am aware of training that is given after the fact. I expect when a new bishop accepts a calling I expect that local leadership (stake presidency) will provide a primer on what to do. In the end, the expectation is that the Lord will provide counsel provided the Bishop in question is righteous and doing his part to prepare himself for his calling.
As for the bedroom stuff- in my mind that is between the couple. The only time a Bishop should be involved if there a dispute the couple cannot resolve on their own.