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franklin

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My son was having bad thoughts/dreams the other night while trying to go to sleep. After about 45 minutes of this I decided we would have a prayer together to help him. He fell asleep within 3 minutes after the end of it.

FWIW, we don't pray around here and to be honest I was scared as hell that it wouldn't work and would only taint his ideas regarding spirituality. Make of it what you will, but a young boy went from freaked out to the rare full night of peaceful sleep within 3 minutes.
 
Who knows why I'm sharing...

My son was having bad thoughts/dreams the other night while trying to go to sleep. After about 45 minutes of this I decided we would have a prayer together to help him. He fell asleep within 3 minutes after the end of it.

FWIW, we don't pray around here and to be honest I was scared as hell that it wouldn't work and would only taint his ideas regarding spirituality. Make of it what you will, but a young boy went from freaked out to the rare full night of peaceful sleep within 3 minutes.

Maybe God's response, maybe Placebo effect. But it's a gift of God too.
 
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Who knows why I'm sharing...

My son was having bad thoughts/dreams the other night while trying to go to sleep. After about 45 minutes of this I decided we would have a prayer together to help him. He fell asleep within 3 minutes after the end of it.

FWIW, we don't pray around here and to be honest I was scared as hell that it wouldn't work and would only taint his ideas regarding spirituality. Make of it what you will, but a young boy went from freaked out to the rare full night of peaceful sleep within 3 minutes.

Thanks for sharing. I'm definately in the pro-prayer crowd.
 
Religion helps people. Praying with your child can be one of the most productive things you ever do with your child.

I am reading this straight from a book I had during college "The Process of Parenting" (eight edition) by Jane Brooks

"Routines provided continuity to life that increases children's feeling of security... less likely to develop problems with alcohol... felt more successful ... children function better... Organized routines also increase children's academic competence... Members invest emotion in them and feel a sense of belonging when they carry them out."

Pages 119-120

In edition it is irrefutable that people with higher terms of religiousness living in similar societies live better successful lives.

• In 2001 Schnittker in the “Journal for the scientific study of religion” examined a data set of 2,836 adults from the general population and he found religious involvement had no significant relationship with depression. He also found that religiousness was a buffer against mental distress.

• In 2002 Smith, McCullough and Poll, in their journal “A meta analytic review of the religiousness-depression association: evidence for main effects and stress buffering effects” carried out an analysis of over 200 social studies and found that high religiousness predicts a rather lower risk of depression, drug abuse and fewer suicide attempts

• In 2002 Bryan Johnson and colleagues of the University of Pennsylvania Centre for Research on Religion and Urban Civil Society reviewed 498 studies that had been published in peer reviewed journals. They concluded that a large majority of studies showed a positive correlation between religious commitment and higher levels of perceived well-being and self esteem, and lower levels of hypertension, depression and criminal delinquency.

• In the Handbook of Religion and Health, edited by Harold Koenig, Michael McCullough and David Larson. The authors reviewed 2,000 published experiments designed to test the relationship between religion and various medical conditions such as heart disease, cancer and depression. The overall results were that religious people tend to live longer and have physically healthier lives. Young people have significantly lower levels of drug and alcohol abuse, criminal delinquency and attempted suicide.

• Even in China an officially non-religious state. A recent study by Paul Badham and Xinzhong Yao for the Ian Ramsey Centre at Oxford University, reported that a majority of those felt religious experiences had a positive effect on their lives.

• In 2000, Political Scientist and Professor Robert Putnam surveyed 200 volunteer organisations and it showed that there was a positive correlation between religiosity and membership of volunteer organisations.

• The Index of Global Philanthropy, 2007 states: “Religious people are more charitable than non-religious not only in giving to their own congregations, but also – regardless of income, region, social class, and other demographic variables – significantly more charitable in their secular donations and informal giving.”


Even Karl Marx recognized this when he said his famous quote ""Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people"

When Karl Marx Jewish friend asked him if he should raise his child Jewish, Karl Marx insisted that he should as religion has an "irreplaceable" positive effect on in terms of health and success.

God bless you all and keep praying not just for a better afterlife but for a better this life.
 
Religion helps people. Praying with your child can be one of the most productive things you ever do with your child.

I am reading this straight from a book I had during college "The Process of Parenting" (eight edition) by Jane Brooks

"Routines provided continuity to life that increases children's feeling of security... less likely to develop problems with alcohol... felt more successful ... children function better... Organized routines also increase children's academic competence... Members invest emotion in them and feel a sense of belonging when they carry them out."

Pages 119-120

In edition it is irrefutable that people with higher terms of religiousness living in similar societies live better successful lives.

• In 2001 Schnittker in the “Journal for the scientific study of religion” examined a data set of 2,836 adults from the general population and he found religious involvement had no significant relationship with depression. He also found that religiousness was a buffer against mental distress.

• In 2002 Smith, McCullough and Poll, in their journal “A meta analytic review of the religiousness-depression association: evidence for main effects and stress buffering effects” carried out an analysis of over 200 social studies and found that high religiousness predicts a rather lower risk of depression, drug abuse and fewer suicide attempts

• In 2002 Bryan Johnson and colleagues of the University of Pennsylvania Centre for Research on Religion and Urban Civil Society reviewed 498 studies that had been published in peer reviewed journals. They concluded that a large majority of studies showed a positive correlation between religious commitment and higher levels of perceived well-being and self esteem, and lower levels of hypertension, depression and criminal delinquency.

• In the Handbook of Religion and Health, edited by Harold Koenig, Michael McCullough and David Larson. The authors reviewed 2,000 published experiments designed to test the relationship between religion and various medical conditions such as heart disease, cancer and depression. The overall results were that religious people tend to live longer and have physically healthier lives. Young people have significantly lower levels of drug and alcohol abuse, criminal delinquency and attempted suicide.

• Even in China an officially non-religious state. A recent study by Paul Badham and Xinzhong Yao for the Ian Ramsey Centre at Oxford University, reported that a majority of those felt religious experiences had a positive effect on their lives.

• In 2000, Political Scientist and Professor Robert Putnam surveyed 200 volunteer organisations and it showed that there was a positive correlation between religiosity and membership of volunteer organisations.

• The Index of Global Philanthropy, 2007 states: “Religious people are more charitable than non-religious not only in giving to their own congregations, but also – regardless of income, region, social class, and other demographic variables – significantly more charitable in their secular donations and informal giving.”


Even Karl Marx recognized this when he said his famous quote ""Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people"

When Karl Marx Jewish friend asked him if he should raise his child Jewish, Karl Marx insisted that he should as religion has an "irreplaceable" positive effect on in terms of health and success.

God bless you all and keep praying not just for a better afterlife but for a better this life.

These are all very interesting reasons for prayer. I would, however, worry that this view of prayer slowly limits prayer to a positive-thinking approach. If prayer is only one person hoping for something positive, the effect is only temporary and temporal. If prayer, however, is a dialogue between the people and the eternal, then the effect of prayer is limitless.-- I feel like I need to state that I do not offer any proof of the eternal. I only have faith.

Great post on another perspective of prayer.
 
Not sure why you'd want it deleted. Nothing wrong with prayer. Nothing wrong with parenting a child and helping them through a troubled night of bad dreams and such. Sorry, if this post was thread-killer (from your pompomKM comment in another thread).
 
Who knows why I'm sharing...

My son was having bad thoughts/dreams the other night while trying to go to sleep. After about 45 minutes of this I decided we would have a prayer together to help him. He fell asleep within 3 minutes after the end of it.

FWIW, we don't pray around here and to be honest I was scared as hell that it wouldn't work and would only taint his ideas regarding spirituality. Make of it what you will, but a young boy went from freaked out to the rare full night of peaceful sleep within 3 minutes.


Soft.
 
And the white hand of Hayward came down upon the son of Franklin, and held the white rag filled with chloroform against the son's face. And the son did sleep.

Sweet-Gordon. Close this thread mods, close it now.
 
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