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What's JazzFanz's stance on Marriage Equality?

Gameface said:
I think that would be a bigger step backwards, yeah. But the counter to the notion that being gay, or engaging in homosexual activity, is bad in and of itself (a sin) being that gay people can't help but to be gay is weak, in my opinion. It's a flawed argument. The argument that should be made is: It doesn't matter why we are gay, the fact is that we ARE gay and you don't have a right to force us to either pretend not to be gay or take away the privileges that other couples enjoy based on a special legal status that we cannot attain (marriage).
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Privileges ain't rights.
 
PearlWatson said:
Kid's don't deserve the choice?

I can see you stating the reality that they don't get a choice, but they don't deserve a choice?

Kids deserve to be raised by a by a loving mom and dad who are respectful of their marriage vows. We have a lot of screwed up people because they didn't get this.
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No, they don't deserve a choice. It's pretty simple. They are children, they are parasites that feed off their parents until they are old enough to leave. As long as they have a roof, food, clothing, and are treated properly, they can't really complain.

Don't twist it around like I'm saying kids should take whatever is given them (like if they are in an abusive house, etc.), just saying they don't have the right to be picky.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
No, they don't deserve a choice. It's pretty simple. They are children, they are parasites that feed off their parents until they are old enough to leave. As long as they have a roof, food, clothing, and are treated properly, they can't really complain.

Don't twist it around like I'm saying kids should take whatever is given them (like if they are in an abusive house, etc.), just saying they don't have the right to be picky.
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Are we talking about a childs choice in adoption? The older they are in that case the more their choice in it matters.
 
Stoked said:
Are we talking about a childs choice in adoption? The older they are in that case the more their choice in it matters.
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No, I just meant in general. Kids (or anyone for that matter) should appreciate what they have, not what they don't.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
No, I just meant in general. Kids (or anyone for that matter) should appreciate what they have, not what they don't.
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I agree that they should not dwell on what they don't but appreciating what they have depends on what they have and how it is given.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
No, they don't deserve a choice. It's pretty simple. They are children, they are parasites that feed off their parents until they are old enough to leave. As long as they have a roof, food, clothing, and are treated properly, they can't really complain.

Don't twist it around like I'm saying kids should take whatever is given them (like if they are in an abusive house, etc.), just saying they don't have the right to be picky.
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Well, let's turn this around.

Homosexuals don't deserve a choice. Homosexuals are parasites on the society created by heterosexuals. They have the basic necessities. They can't really complain. They should appreciate what they have, not what they don't. They have no right to be picky about how we have defined marriage since the birth of this great country.
 
PearlWatson said:
Well, let's turn this around.

Homosexuals don't deserve a choice. Homosexuals are parasites on the society created by heterosexuals. They have the basic necessities. They can't really complain. They should appreciate what they have, not what they don't. They have no right to be picky about how we have defined marriage since the birth of this great country.
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So Cy's comment at least makes sense to an extent, yours is completely ****ed. You are competing with northeast for the idiocy award.
 
dalamon said:
See, now this makes sense, but its really not like there will be zero female figures in that daughters life that could step in as a surrogate mother in times like those. Have grandma, an aunt, a doctor or somebody explain things to her. I had my uncle explain a bunch of puberty-related things to me when I was younger instead of my father. Of course, this is an inherent disadvantage to same-sex couples, but I mean is this reason enough to wish for them to not be allowed altogether?
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No, I agree with you. There will be others around to do it (just like if the mom had died, etc.). I was simply pointing out the only thing I could think of in which a hetero couple has the advantage over a homo couple. Like I said, I support same-sex marriage.
 
I do love how bent out of shape people got over a personal opinion on what I thought was the best scenario in regards to parenting. Said nothing on what I thought should be legal or illegal in regards to parenting.
 
Gameface said:
I think that would be a bigger step backwards, yeah. But the counter to the notion that being gay, or engaging in homosexual activity, is bad in and of itself (a sin) being that gay people can't help but to be gay is weak, in my opinion. It's a flawed argument. The argument that should be made is: It doesn't matter why we are gay, the fact is that we ARE gay and you don't have a right to force us to either pretend not to be gay or take away the privileges that other couples enjoy based on a special legal status that we cannot attain (marriage).
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Are you coming out? Cuz I'm totally okay with that. In fact, it would answer a few questions.
 
Give heterosexuals "marriage"

Give homosexuals "unions"

Make them both have the exact same rights and priviledges.

/thread.
 
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