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The Dark Knight Rises

Stoked said:
I read several studies a few years ago that said if a real life doomsday scenario happened that society would hold for 24 hours. That is how long people would wait for the lights to come back and their cells to start working. Over the next 18 hours (I think thats the time frame) it would go from minor assaults and ignoring minor laws to full fledged anarchy. They said that if you are in a city (any size city)you'd better be long gone by the end of that 24 hours or you are already likely dead.
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Letting 1,000 violent offenders out is not a doomsday scenario. Not even remotely close. Nor is the threat of a bomb imo. Seriously, were the citizens of Gotham supposed to just ignore everything Gordon had done over the previous decade and take the word of some masked nutjob who may or may not be reading Gordon's actual words...after having blown up the football field? I didn't buy it. However, even if you did buy it, it was ludicrous to think that he and his small army had the whole island on lockdown. I mean, what, that one bridge was the military's only entryway? They couldn't access it via boat or air elsewhere on the island? Bane had eyes everywhere?
 
SaltyDawg said:
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Plus if you release all the most dangerous criminals from prison while the doomsday scenario is playing out, and remove almost the entire police force at the same time, there is guaranteed to be chaos in the city.
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The entire police force somehow went underground within minutes? Yeah, because that's believable. What percentage of cops are even on shift at the same time? 50% at the most?
 
I think more development would have been nice and they could have released a part one and a part two...to make even crazier beaucoup bucks. In fact...spoilers in white>>>

part one could have ended right after or very soon after Bane broke his back...and part two trailers could be very, very short and hush hush...
 
Wes Mantooth said:
The entire police force somehow went underground within minutes? Yeah, because that's believable. What percentage of cops are even on shift at the same time? 50% at the most?
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Is it likely? Of course not. Is it possible? Absolutely. And you could say that same thing about almost any aspect of any movie in this series.

Some crazy scarred face clown robs all of the mob bosses, threatens and kills several, pays off a large portion of the police force, escapes jail, puts bombs on 2 boats- 1 full of currently incarcerated felons, tells each of them they will only survive if they blow the other boat up first, and nobody gets blown up...

Is it all possible? Sure. Is it likely? Probably a lot less likely than the cops going into the sewers to find the guy (and his gang) who just kidnapped and almost killed the police commissioner.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
I think more development would have been nice and they could have released a part one and a part two...to make even crazier beaucoup bucks. In fact...spoilers in white>>>

part one could have ended right after or very soon after Bane broke his back...and part two trailers could be very, very short and hush hush...
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I kinda like that idea.
 
SaltyDawg said:
Is it likely? Of course not. Is it possible? Absolutely. And you could say that same thing about almost any aspect of any movie in this series.

Some crazy scarred face clown robs all of the mob bosses, threatens and kills several, pays off a large portion of the police force, escapes jail, puts bombs on 2 boats- 1 full of currently incarcerated felons, tells each of them they will only survive if they blow the other boat up first, and nobody gets blown up...

Is it all possible? Sure. Is it likely? Probably a lot less likely than the cops going into the sewers to find the guy (and his gang) who just kidnapped and almost killed the police commissioner.
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I don't agree.
 
Cocaine said:
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He wasn't in Gotham. Remember Alfred explaining how he would go to Europe every year, to the same cafe and would hope to see Bruce with a woman, a wife at a table across from him. He never wanted him to come back to Gotham. That is where they were.
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Got it, I missed that. Thanks.
 
I thought this one was epic.

It had a much stronger human element to it than the second one. The second one, you didn't know anything about Joker, no character evolution from anyone, and Batman just chased after a crazy dude who left destruction in his path.

The moral was the city. Would people finally stand up in a moment of despair and become ugly and turn on themselves as Joker predicted? Or would they stand up and fight corruption, even if it meant sacrificing themselves? They did so on the two boats... Batman then did it to protect Dent's reputation.

It was a cool moral. But it isn't exactly touching. Maybe the touchy emotional part was seeing his love get blown away. But no one cared. Perhaps if it were Katie Holmes I would have...

The first one had a nice human element to it, you saw Bruce Wayne's parents gunned down. You saw him feel guilt. You saw Liam Neeson haunted by his past and dedicated towards fighting corruption. In Bruce's attempts to fight crime, his house is burned down and reputation tarnished (even though he was merely trying to save all those guests at his bday party).

However, I thought this one is loaded with a lot of human elements. You get to know Bane a lot better than the Joker. Liam Neeson flashbacks challenges him. He's a living breathing person. Catwoman, Alfred, etc all have their emotional parts. Batman shows how vulnerable he is. He even cracked a joke or two.

I think it was by far the best out of the 3. In fact, it was the best movie I've seen in a long time.

My only complaint would be that I couldn't understand Bane for the first half of the movie. I usually just shrugged my shoulders and waited for something to be blown up.

Having said that, the movie could have been another hour or two longer. There are a lot of questions I still have. Things I could have seen. More character involvement. More Bane. More fighting. But it had more of that then #2. Looking back now, #2 is like living through a nightmare. Joker just puts everyone through hell (for no reason, other than merely wanting to watch the world burn). At least this movie, like the first, the bad guy has a goal.
 
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During one of the fight scenes did anyone have flashbacks to Batman's interrogation of Joker? When he's beating the hell out of Bane he yells, "WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS THE DETONATOR???" The way he says it, in his freaked out pissed off voice, it was almost exactly the same as when he's beating up Joker in jail yelling, "WHERE ARE THEY? *smashes Joker's head against the window* WHERE ARE THEY???"

I wish we could have seen more fighting between Bane and Batman at the end. It got really sweet once Batman started to knock off the mask. I dunno about you, but I wanted to see more of that.
 
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SaltyDawg said:
Is it likely? Of course not. Is it possible? Absolutely. And you could say that same thing about almost any aspect of any movie in this series.

Some crazy scarred face clown robs all of the mob bosses, threatens and kills several, pays off a large portion of the police force, escapes jail, puts bombs on 2 boats- 1 full of currently incarcerated felons, tells each of them they will only survive if they blow the other boat up first, and nobody gets blown up...

Is it all possible? Sure. Is it likely? Probably a lot less likely than the cops going into the sewers to find the guy (and his gang) who just kidnapped and almost killed the police commissioner.
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This.

People seem to recognize how silly it is for a billionaire to dress up as a bat. Then get upset about certain other equally ridiculous aspects.

Folks. It's a movie... A comic book movie at that.

The first one featured a guy hijacking a train, using a microwave emitter, to vaporize the water supply of a major city and unleashing a toxin into the air that caused mass panic.

Breaking News:

Batman isn't real and neither are his villains.
 
The Thriller said:
Spoiler:

During one of the fight scenes did anyone have flashbacks to Batman's interrogation of Joker? When he's beating the hell out of Bane he yells, "WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS THE DETONATOR???" The way he says it, in his freaked out pissed off voice, it was almost exactly the same as when he's beating up Joker in jail yelling, "WHERE ARE THEY? *smashes Joker's head against the window* WHERE ARE THEY???"

I wish we could have seen more fighting between Bane and Batman at the end. It got really sweet once Batman started to knock off the mask. I dunno about you, but I wanted to see more of that.
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I wish there had been more fighting between them too. The main fight between them, though, is pretty great.
 
The Thriller said:
I thought this one was epic.

It had a much stronger human element to it than the second one. The second one, you didn't know anything about Joker, no character evolution from anyone, and Batman just chased after a crazy dude who left destruction in his path.

The moral was the city. Would people finally stand up in a moment of despair and become ugly and turn on themselves as Joker predicted? Or would they stand up and fight corruption, even if it meant sacrificing themselves? They did so on the two boats... Batman then did it to protect Dent's reputation.

It was a cool moral. But it isn't exactly touching. Maybe the touchy emotional part was seeing his love get blown away. But no one cared. Perhaps if it were Katie Holmes I would have...

The first one had a nice human element to it, you saw Bruce Wayne's parents gunned down. You saw him feel guilt. You saw Liam Neeson haunted by his past and dedicated towards fighting corruption. In Bruce's attempts to fight crime, his house is burned down and reputation tarnished (even though he was merely trying to save all those guests at his bday party).

However, I thought this one is loaded with a lot of human elements. You get to know Bane a lot better than the Joker. Liam Neeson flashbacks challenges him. He's a living breathing person. Catwoman, Alfred, etc all have their emotional parts. Batman shows how vulnerable he is. He even cracked a joke or two.

I think it was by far the best out of the 3. In fact, it was the best movie I've seen in a long time.

My only complaint would be that I couldn't understand Bane for the first half of the movie. I usually just shrugged my shoulders and waited for something to be blown up.

Having said that, the movie could have been another hour or two longer. There are a lot of questions I still have. Things I could have seen. More character involvement. More Bane. More fighting. But it had more of that then #2. Looking back now, #2 is like living through a nightmare. Joker just puts everyone through hell (for no reason, other than merely wanting to watch the world burn). At least this movie, like the first, the bad guy has a goal.
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Any specific scenes of Bane's dialogue you'd like explained?
 
The Thriller said:
Spoiler:

During one of the fight scenes did anyone have flashbacks to Batman's interrogation of Joker? When he's beating the hell out of Bane he yells, "WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS THE DETONATOR???" The way he says it, in his freaked out pissed off voice, it was almost exactly the same as when he's beating up Joker in jail yelling, "WHERE ARE THEY? *smashes Joker's head against the window* WHERE ARE THEY???"

I wish we could have seen more fighting between Bane and Batman at the end. It got really sweet once Batman started to knock off the mask. I dunno about you, but I wanted to see more of that.
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That's how Batman interrogates everybody.
My favorite:
[video=youtube_share;f31nchsGUdw]https://youtu.be/f31nchsGUdw
 
Did any of you watch IGN rewind theatre before seeing Dark Knight Rises?
They were spot on with *SPOILER: Miranda Tate being Talia Ghul

It really ruined the ending for me.
 
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