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And C.J. could penetrate when he wanted to; but I can recall Deron guarding him and having difficulty staying in front of him, though as we know Deron has had trouble staying in front of quick players.
foye's history at PG
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NAOS
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Darkwing Duck
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Yes. Because the eye test is a much better way, in fact the ONLY way, to evaluate anything. Statistics may SHOW that students achieve in Anthro 101 (or whatever particular classes you instruct), but the eye tests say differently.
(WHERE the HELL am I going with that?)
NAOS
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nice trolling.
Darkwing Duck
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Meh. Started to get wordy. Was beginning to go downhill, so had to self depreciate it before it got too bad.
NAOS
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it's cool, braugh. It happens to a lot of people.
theNBAnerd
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exactly. and that's all it comes down to, really. foye will help us, but not by playing the point. let's appreciate a guy for what he is, and not assume that he's going to be our goran dragic when history shows he has never succeeded at running an offense that would crack a top-20 efficiency ranking.
Agreeing with Wes kills me inside. But I don't have a choice...
I don't think anybody's expecting Foye at PG to be a great solution going forward. For my part when I say I hope Foye will be playing PG, I'm simply saying I think he'll contribute more to the team if he's taking minutes from Watson than if he's taking them from Burks. I believe Foye can defend PGs and I believe that with our non-point-guard-centric style of play with Mo as a starter, we won't be changing our style of play much when we ask him to perform only those PG offensive skills that he can do adequately well.
Truthfully I don't consider Mo a true PG in the context of what a PG is. But As long as you have guys on the floor that can get the team into a half court set then I don't think that matters. I wouldn't call Steve Kerr, or Derrick Fisher pure PG ether but they played a lot at the PG because they could shoot the ball and had a guy on the wing that could get the offense going. (not saying that Hay or Burks is THAT guy) but I see the roster shaping up to be able to run like that. And if we run the offense through the wing player then playing Foye at the "PG" makes no difference. (again as long as we have a guy that can get the offense going from the wing)
I expect him to come in with a green light to shoot like (wait for it....) CJ Miles. He'll raise the energy level, put up some points, and make an occasional pass, but he'll probably play off the ball more than have it in his hands.
billyshelby
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Foye is not going to play the point for us. The only question is when the Earl/Foye/Burks trifecta fails, and what Ty does. The only realistic solution is Marvin has to come off the bench which calls into question KOC's acquisitions. I'll be very curious to see what Ty does with are wing formation.
cctrackstar
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You won't? I will. At 3.5 assists a game Hayward obviously has the stuff to help run the offence and that can only get better if he is told to do more.
gregbroncs
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Wow this is the very reason stats are worthless unless taken into context. This is a perfect example of having and opinion and cherry picking stats to back it up.
Darkwing Duck
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There isn't a single stat out there that will back up the claim that Foye is a good point guard or backup point guard. None. No cherry picking since ALL the stats say he sucks as a point guard.
Gyp Rosetti
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What were Foye's team efficiency ratings when he was playing SG? Which PGs over the last few years have ranked the highest in team efficiency? Are they widely regarded as great PGs? Where does Deron Williams fall, for example? This data is useless without reference points.
If you're trying to assess his competence as a PG, I would think you'd try to isolate his performance from that of his teammates, NOT attribute their combined failures to him. In fact, the stats that have been presented in this thread would lead me to argue he'd be an adequate PG.
I think it depends on our team's philosphy. Are we going to be defense first or offense first. Foye is hands down our best defender at the PG position. But if we play Al starter minutes I think we can throwing Foye's effectiveness out the window.
Chargers Jazz Angels
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Ok I use to be a stat junkie but have pulled back as of late but correct me if aim wrong here the stat that says while foye is playing pg the other team scores 2 more points than foyes team? So if the starters have a 10 poit lead when mo rest and then comes back in and they only have an 8 point lead?
Seems fair enough. All I want the back ups to do is maintain a lead or if possible extend it but 2 points in my opinion is sufficient for a back up. Besides I have said all a long that this is my roster and depth chart
Mo Williams (35), foye (13), tinsley (primary scrub minutes), Watson traded
Foye(12), burks (20), Hayward (16)
Hayward (14), marv Williams (28)
Favors (25), millsap (30)
Jefferson (32), kanter (13)
Seems fair enough. All I want the back ups to do is maintain a lead or if possible extend it but 2 points in my opinion is sufficient for a back up. Besides I have said all a long that this is my roster and depth chart
Mo Williams (35), foye (13), tinsley (primary scrub minutes), Watson traded
Foye(12), burks (20), Hayward (16)
Hayward (14), marv Williams (28)
Favors (25), millsap (30)
Jefferson (32), kanter (13)
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