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Mendenhall: Cougars may have been left out of Pac-10 because of religion
July 28th, 2010 @ 3:12pm
By Becky Bruce
LAS VEGAS -- Is it the Sunday games, the academics or something else? The man at the helm of the BYU football program suggests the thing keeping the Cougars out of another conference might be religion.

Coach Bronco Mendenhall didn't single out the Pac-10, while saying Utah's move to that conference completely shakes up the in-state rivalry.

"BYU isn't any other place. There are some conferences that, quite frankly, don't want a faith-based institution," Mendenhall said.

It's not the first time someone has suggested the Pac-10 snubbed BYU over religion. A columnist on BleacherReport.com made the point even before the Utes' move was official.

Still, Mendenhall says don't expect the Y to change.

"We're very clear on who we are, what we represent and how we're going to play -- and [we] don't measure ourselves against anyone else."

E-mail: bbruce@ksl.com
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While I find the religion excuse to be over-used and lame, you have to love the bolded line. It sucks that the Rivalry is losing its fire power, but I will always hate you Utah Flamers with the burning passion of eight million suns.
 
Damn, that almost brings a tear to my eye, the spirit is so sweet. They don't measure themselves against anyone else? How awesome they must be.

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Typical hater response. I don't like you sucking around my threads, bothering our posters, Gregory. I don't like your jerkoff name. I don't like your jerkioff face. I don't like your jerkoff behavior, and I don't like you, jerkoff. Do I make myself clear?
 
Sorry to interrupt, but I guess the silver lining to the rivalry is we can now just hate each other. No more cheering for the other team to win because it will make the MWC look better. Maybe that extra little bit of hate will boost the rivalry? Has there ever been a poll on Jazzfanz to see the % of Ute fans vs. Cougar fans? Just curious.
 
Wait. People, other than Jazzgal, actually root for the other team, "for the good of the conference"?
 
YB85 said:
Wait. People, other than Jazzgal, actually root for the other team, "for the good of the conference"?
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Deron don't play dat, eh, Blood? He says he absolutely HATED every team in the Big 10 when he was in college. When he tells K-Y "Iowa Sucks" he knows whereof he speaks, ya know?
 
Damn. I was all excited when I read the title.

I say kudos to BM (tee hee) for not playing into the hype. BYU does have a unique program and identity in college football.




edit: What is Willy Aames doing on the bed in the Steve Young pic?
 
Wait, this gets you excited as a cougar fan???

"We dont measure ourselves against anyone else." -broncoe mendanhal

"We will kick everyone's ***." -Kyle Whittingham
 
It's simple... BYU has an agenda that forces it not to put football or any other sport first. Why would you accept a team that could possibly hold up everyone else in the conference, especially since goin in they'd be one of the bottom feeders.
 
Bronco70 said:
edit: What is Willy Aames doing on the bed in the Steve Young pic?
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Probably waiting for the girls to leave.

This is one of the greatest pictures ever on the internets. I love the posters, the lustful looks from the chubby chick on the floor, Willy Aames' pornstache, and especially the Budweiser stein on the table. You just know that was Steve's room. Some bear over the rainbow. Case closed.
 
Ok, so everybody and their dog knew that BYU was left out because of religion. So Bronco comes out and says the exact same thing over a month later and it's worthy of an "I love Bronco" thread? C'mon Trout, I expect you to be on your game a bit more than this.

The funniest thing I heard from MWC Media Day? Bronco proclaiming that BYU will never lose a single recruit to Utah just because Utah is in the Pac 10 now. I actually believe he's right for 2 reasons (but they're not the reasons BYU fans are thinking of):

1- For the most part, Utah and BYU are already going after different types of recruits and have been for quite some time. Utah recruits for pure atheleticism and works the players into positions after the fact. BYU recognizes positions of need and then fills those positions.

2-If for some reason Utah and BYU are going after an in-state kid a couple of years down the road, I have no doubt that as soon as the kid starts to lean towards Utah- even slightly, that BYU will pull the scholarship offer and proclaim that they "wanted to go in a different direction". That way it doesn't look like a loss to Utah in the recruiting column.

I've actually heard about that type of thing happening before and to be fair, I've heard people grumble that both schools are guilty of it. When Utah feels they may lose a kid to BYU, they shut down all interest and turn their attention to another prospect, thus making it look like they didn't "lose" the kid to BYU.

I guess the biggest difference is that Utah's coach isn't on sports radio arrogantly proclaiming that they will "never" lose a recruit to BYU. Mostly because Utah's coach is not a mono-toned, douche-bag, idiot and he's smart enough to realize that losing a recruit every once in a while to your in-state rival is just the nature of the beast.
 
Is there any Utah fan who doesn't admit that it was purely a religious thing?

And I don't feel bad as a Zoobie just because Boise State is a better team than Utah anyways, and their fans are even stupider. That will be an even more fun rivalry.
 
jazzman12 said:
Ok, so everybody and their dog knew that BYU was left out because of religion. So Bronco comes out and says the exact same thing over a month later and it's worthy of an "I love Bronco" thread? C'mon Trout, I expect you to be on your game a bit more than this.

The funniest thing I heard from MWC Media Day? Bronco proclaiming that BYU will never lose a single recruit to Utah just because Utah is in the Pac 10 now. I actually believe he's right for 2 reasons (but they're not the reasons BYU fans are thinking of):

1- For the most part, Utah and BYU are already going after different types of recruits and have been for quite some time. Utah recruits for pure atheleticism and works the players into positions after the fact. BYU recognizes positions of need and then fills those positions.

2-If for some reason Utah and BYU are going after an in-state kid a couple of years down the road, I have no doubt that as soon as the kid starts to lean towards Utah- even slightly, that BYU will pull the scholarship offer and proclaim that they "wanted to go in a different direction". That way it doesn't look like a loss to Utah in the recruiting column.

I've actually heard about that type of thing happening before and to be fair, I've heard people grumble that both schools are guilty of it. When Utah feels they may lose a kid to BYU, they shut down all interest and turn their attention to another prospect, thus making it look like they didn't "lose" the kid to BYU.

I guess the biggest difference is that Utah's coach isn't on sports radio arrogantly proclaiming that they will "never" lose a recruit to BYU. Mostly because Utah's coach is not a mono-toned, douche-bag, idiot and he's smart enough to realize that losing a recruit every once in a while to your in-state rival is just the nature of the beast.
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A kid who wants to go to BYU won't go anywhere else no matter what conference they are in. I don't understand why Ute fans can't grasp this concept.
 
YB85 said:
Wait. People, other than Jazzgal, actually root for the other team, "for the good of the conference"?
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Seriously? I heard that all the time from family and friends, and radio call-ins on 1280 - drove me crazy. Wanting them to lose made me look like I was turning my back on the conference - especially in bowl games. Now I can hate in peace. :)
 
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jazzman12 said:
Ok, so everybody and their dog knew that BYU was left out because of religion. So Bronco comes out and says the exact same thing over a month later and it's worthy of an "I love Bronco" thread? C'mon Trout, I expect you to be on your game a bit more than this.
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Maybe when you sober up and get the hooker back out on the corner you can reread what I wrote in the OP. The Raspberry is NEVER off his game.
 
David Stern said:
Is there any Utah fan who doesn't admit that it was purely a religious thing?
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I'm a Ute fan and I def agree with you.

I think the whole thing went down like this at a Pac 10 meeting...

Pac 10 commissioner Larry Scott- "Hey fellas I called this meeting cuz we need to get BYU in our conference ASAP. They have killer academics, they do boatloads of research, and they learn good. Also, I have been impressed by their on the field performance with all the games that they won and stuff. They have beat their rivals up north, like tons of times in the last few years. They have become so dominant that they have their own bowl game every year in Las Vegas. Las Vegas has multiple casinos and was featured in the movie "The Hangover" which is one of the highest grossing comedies of all time. So yeah, I guess you could say Vegas is doin' big things. Let's jump on this gravy train dudes."


Southern Cal President- "Sounds pretty cool, I guess. Do they have any stadiums or anything? Or will we have to build them some?"


Pac 10 Comish- "Haha. Thats the best part, they have their own stadiums. Whats cool is that their stadiums are super big. Like, you go to the basketball stadium and you cant believe how big it is and then just when you think stadium building couldnt get any bigger you see the football stadium and it IS bigger. Plus, its cool cuz they put in a mountain that has a letter y on it right behind the big stadium."


Washington University President:- "Hey Larry, Whats bigger? The Stadium or the mountains?"


Everybody- "LOL"


Pac 10 Comish "Good one! I dunno, but it sure is close! Ok, boys this looks like a no brainer. They got learning and stuff at the school, they party in Vegas at the end of every season, and they have large buildings. I know its kind of a formality at this point, but lets put it to a vote. Anybody object?"


[silence]


Pac 10 Comish- "Alright that settles it. Lets call them up to tell them the good news!"


University of California President- "OH ****!"


Pac 10 Comish- "What is it University of California President?"


University of California President- "I just googled byu and it says they're all Mormon and stuff. Gross."


Pac 10 Comish- "Yuck. Damn it, I knew they were too good to be true. Everything else about them is perfect. FML. Ok, any thoughts on a plan b? Honestly, I dont even care anymore."


Stanford President- "There is a school a little ways North of byu, in the growing city of Salt Lake City. I say we just go with that."


Pac 10 Comish- "Whats it called? Do they have any notable sports achievements? They dont have anything to do with the mormons do they?"


Stanford President- "Its called The University of Utah. No they have not done much in sports lately. No Vegas Bowls for quite some time, I'm afraid. But, they have zilch to do with anything mormon, and to be honest I'm super hungry and we need to wrap this **** up."


Pac 10 Comish- "Cool. As long as they have nothing at all to do with mormonism then I'm down. Ok so Utah College it is. Lets just call em up on the way to Chilis. Im thinking about ordering the fajitas."
 
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