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Turkish Tweets Need Translating (Al Jefferson - Joakim Noah)

Forget this trade though.
Noah is way high priced.
For all we know, Favors is going to be good enough that we have to offer him a Noah-like contract down the line.
 
TheSilencer1313 said:
Forget this trade though.
Noah is way high priced.
For all we know, Favors is going to be good enough that we have to offer him a Noah-like contract down the line.
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Favors is a MAX player. It's only a matter of when. He's light years better than Hibbert, for example, and we'll eventually have to sign him to that type of deal whether it's premature or not. But Noah is peanuts to Favors.
 
billyshelby said:
Favors is a MAX player. It's only a matter of when. He's light years better than Hibbert, for example, and we'll eventually have to sign him to that type of deal whether it's premature or not. But Noah is peanuts to Favors.
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Totally agree. Kanter is the hardest one to predict. Though, I have a good deal of faith in him.
 
As a basketball trade I like it. Noah is scrappy and I don't even think has that bad of offensive capability. But from a semantics standpoint, I question his character. This is a guy that's crossed the line a few times in sounding off on basketball cities (look up what he thinks of Cleveland). Who knows, maybe he has the professional attitude to bring to Utah but I doubt it.
 
Witty Username said:
As a basketball trade I like it. Noah is scrappy and I don't even think has that bad of offensive capability. But from a semantics standpoint, I question his character. This is a guy that's crossed the line a few times in sounding off on basketball cities (look up what he thinks of Cleveland). Who knows, maybe he has the professional attitude to bring to Utah but I doubt it.
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That is what I like about Noah.
 
Witty Username said:
As a basketball trade I like it. Noah is scrappy and I don't even think has that bad of offensive capability. But from a semantics standpoint, I question his character. This is a guy that's crossed the line a few times in sounding off on basketball cities (look up what he thinks of Cleveland). Who knows, maybe he has the professional attitude to bring to Utah but I doubt it.
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Every team needs a crazy guy, right?
 
How does trading a 'seven footer' for a 'seven footer' do anything to help loosen up the overload in the post? How does it get Kanter 'the future' any more time on the court, unless it's because Noah gets hurt all the time.

I get the whole defense thing, and that makes sense, but I would really rather get high lottery picks for Al than another player who will get in the way of our core's development.
 
cowhide said:
Jazz would be dumb to do this. Taking on Noah's contract is just plain stupid. How are we going to sign our guys if we are paying Noah 14 million a year. The guy can't score on a lamppost. Sure he hustles and plays decent defense but there is no way he is worth his contract. It would be like having AK back. The Jazz can get a better deal financially than this trade.
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Exactly.
Noah is a 10/10 player in 30+ mins at an outrageous salary. If we want that kind of production, let's just play our 3rd round pick from last season...you know, that Turkish guy? I think Enes could give us at least 10/10 as a full-time player. And he's a helluva lot cheaper.

I wouldn't even do this deal for Noah AND a 1st round pick. WORST CASE scenario is Al and Paul play the full year and KOC/Lindsey can't make a deal at the deadline for the one they don't want to re-sign next summer. So what? That gives the Jazz money to go out and pick up a FA (or two) in the $7-8M range. A lot of teams, having gorged themselves on over-priced players already, will only have the mid-level to offer. Utah is poised to make a pretty good run at quality players. And Noah at $13M-$14M isn't one of them.

Don't forget Utah will likely have two firsts. Jazz can easily find a big to assume Kanters old role (10 mins off the bench). Besides, I think a Millsap/Favors/Kanter lineup is better-balanced than Noah/Favors/Kanter. Perhaps if Noah was a DPOY candidate, but he's not. He's a solid rebounder, poor scorer and a non shot-blocker. He does intimidate just with his looks; I'll give him that.
 
Well, 14 mil per a year for Noah is just atrocious. I do not remember any name gets injured oftenly more than him. Bulls wanna reorganized as it's been told. They lost all their bench mob (Asik, Watson, Brewer, Korver) and Rose is done till the allstar match. So it is logical for them to send Noah and have incredible cap space for the next year after amnestied Boozer. How bout for the jazz? You fill the C with Noah (Energy guy, good rebounder, good help defender, really good assist guy for a big but no offensive game, no post up or midrange game) So, no way they can be good with Favors and he will kill the improvement of Kanter. The advantage is he can play some PF too with Kanter but at this time what will Favors do? For me letting Al go after this season is more and more logical and useful for the team.
 
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Nice speculation but having thought about this a bit there is zero chance this happens on the Jazz side. Will, not, happen.
 
Sneakers said:
We have plenty of people who can score sans Jeff... Both Williams, G-Time, Burx, Millsap.

My only issue would be Noah's chronic injury history. And also cap implications that I'm not yet aware of
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We still have our amnesty clause, haven't we?
 
It doesn't matter if the Jazz have "plenty of scorers", you DO NOT sign a complimentary player to a $14 million contract. If Noah is so great then why are the Bulls trying to get rid of him considering they have lost Asik and are talking about getting rid of Boozer. Gibson is a solid role player but I believe he would be their starter. Noah is overrated as a defender and he gets hurt so I do not see him as a big difference maker. As stated before Kanter can be what Noah is 10/10 with more playing time at a cheaper prices. Millsap is a more productive player and I wouldn't give him a Noah contract.

With all these proposed trades, many Jazz fans are not thinking about re-signing our own players. The Jazz have a lot of young guys who are going to want/need to be paid in a couple years. Favors, Hayward, Burks, and Kanter could all develop into players who are going to want bigger second contracts. Add in Marvin Williams if he all of a sudden breaks out and plays up to his potential. Without adding anymore additional salary it is going to be very difficult to keep the Big Four together. If you start throwing money around to players like Noah then you might as well start rebuilding again because Noah is not the missing piece to a title.
 
If the Bulls were to throw in their unprotected pick from Charlotte then I do this trade immediately and bite the bullet.
 
I was intrigued until I saw Noah's remaining contract. If he had two years, fine, but not at four. No thanks.
 
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