Minnesota Dem pulls a McGreevey

[Stoked]

They're leading our governments, not our moral compasses.

So you are advocating that a man that shows such soundly bad judgement should be part of that leadership. Our leaders should be picked from amoung the best of us. Not the pervert who lives down the street.

I wonder if it comes from the "god complex"? After being so "important" and having people kiss your butt for so long you start to believe the hype. You start to believe that you truly can do no wrong. For examples look at politicians, athletes, moviestars, rock legends...

 

[Dr. Jones]

So you are advocating that a man that shows such soundly bad judgement should be part of that leadership. Our leaders should be picked from amoung the best of us. Not the pervert who lives down the street.

I wonder if it comes from the "god complex"? After being so "important" and having people kiss your butt for so long you start to believe the hype. You start to believe that you truly can do no wrong. For examples look at politicians, athletes, moviestars, rock legends.. Trout.

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[freakazoid]

Public sex should be legal anyway.

Except for fat and ugly people.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Public sex should be legal anyway.

Except for fat and ugly people.

I think should be legal with a permit. You must pass a series of tests, so to speak.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

No, but as I said a few posts back, I question his overall decision making .. and that is my right to do so.

No doubt bro.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

So you are advocating that a man that shows such soundly bad judgement should be part of that leadership. Our leaders should be picked from amoung the best of us. Not the pervert who lives down the street.

No, I'm simply saying sexual activity has nothing to do with his or her ability to lead the city, county, state, or country he or she leads.

I wonder if it comes from the "god complex"? After being so "important" and having people kiss your butt for so long you start to believe the hype. You start to believe that you truly can do no wrong. For examples look at politicians, athletes, moviestars, rock legends...

Maybe. Who really knows.

 

[nightmare3983]

Public sex should be legal anyway.

Except for fat and ugly people.

You're a problem solver.

 

[The Pearl]

Ok, I read the article and I have a question: what's the crime?

My takeaways:

1. He's not married. So it's not like he cheated on his wife or did anything else that has the tint of immorality.
2. He didn't try to cover it up. So it's not like he lied to his constituents or anything else.
3. The 17 year old was over the legal age of consent in Minnesota. So he didn't break any laws.
4. The kid acknowledged he lied to the guy about his age. You know, in case you're a hard core purist on the 17 vs. 18 years old debate that should at least take some of the sting off of it.
5. Being gay isn't illegal or immoral.
6. Having sex isn't illegal or immoral.
7. Having gay sex isn't illegal or immoral.

So seriously, what's the problem? Is it about the sanctity of the truck stop?

I will take a shot Kicky,

I think the main thing in this situation is the age difference between the two. As someone who is close to 50, most people in my age category and older would probably label me a pervert if I were to delve into sexual activity with somebody this young, regardless of them being of legal age. You are basically engaging in activity with a high schooler. Put another way, I don't think many people would approve of their divorced parents in their late 50's having sex with a high schooler and I am 100% sure that most parents if they found out their 17 year old son or daughter were having sex with somebody in their 50's that they would view the middle aged individual's behavior as normal. Yes, the incident may legally pass all hurdles but it is just frickin creepy.

 

[Stoked]

No, I'm simply saying sexual activity has nothing to do with his or her ability to lead the city, county, state, or country he or she leads.



Maybe. Who really knows.

As I said earlier I could care less about his sexual activity. They way he engaged in it shows that he has problems realising a bad idea when he sees it.

He should hold himself to a higher standard. So should we.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

As I said earlier I could care less about his sexual activity. They way he engaged in it shows that he has problems realising a bad idea when he sees it.

He should hold himself to a higher standard. So should we.

https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?11781-My-night-with-the-Captain/page1

 

[Stoked]

https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?11781-My-night-with-the-Captain/page1

Only wa I can see this relating to my post is the "so should we" comment. I did not ean ourselves but we should have some class. I meant we should also hold our leaders to a higher standard.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Ok, I read the article and I have a question: what's the crime?

My takeaways:

1. He's not married. So it's not like he cheated on his wife or did anything else that has the tint of immorality.
2. He didn't try to cover it up. So it's not like he lied to his constituents or anything else.
3. The 17 year old was over the legal age of consent in Minnesota. So he didn't break any laws.
4. The kid acknowledged he lied to the guy about his age. You know, in case you're a hard core purist on the 17 vs. 18 years old debate that should at least take some of the sting off of it.
5. Being gay isn't illegal or immoral.
6. Having sex isn't illegal or immoral.
7. Having gay sex isn't illegal or immoral.

So seriously, what's the problem? Is it about the sanctity of the truck stop?

Well, he did try to cover "it" up by having his shirt untucked when police confronted him and noticed his zipper was down.

There are probably a few laws he would have broken in the course of his tryst. Had someone actually witnessed the act, he could have been charged with at least indecent exposure.

I agree with all your points, though. If he's not been charged with a crime, by all means let him run for re-election. Of course, that's an easy win for the Republicans. And that's the ONLY reason the Dems asked him to step down. If he had the cache of a Barney FRank, nothing would have been done other than to have him issue an apology for using poor judgement.

 

[sirkickyass]

I will take a shot Kicky,

I think the main thing in this situation is the age difference between the two. As someone who is close to 50, most people in my age category and older would probably label me a pervert if I were to delve into sexual activity with somebody this young, regardless of them being of legal age. You are basically engaging in activity with a high schooler. Put another way, I don't think many people would approve of their divorced parents in their late 50's having sex with a high schooler and I am 100% sure that most parents if they found out their 17 year old son or daughter were having sex with somebody in their 50's that they would view the middle aged individual's behavior as normal. Yes, the incident may legally pass all hurdles but it is just frickin creepy.

On the issue of the age difference: granted. But thats kind of mcguffin to my mind. Thinking someone is creepy certainly isn't worthy of moral outrage.