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Paul Ryan thinks you're a ****ing retard

again, this example from Obama does not equal the flamethrowing lies of Ryan last night. Why is this hard to admit?

and I was referring, specifically, to the assertion of one party thinking Americans are dumb .. it was brought up and I responded .. did someone change the rules here or something? sheeesh
 
To actually contribute to this thread, I think that NAOS simply wants you and Stoked to admit that this was an especially ludicrous political speech, and an absolute embarrassment to the name of proper political representation of Americans. Moreso than your 'average' amount of lies told in any sort of political speech. Stoked brought up Clinton's address. I'd say it was on a similar level. I'm not saying this as a democrat-apologist (although I am more left-wing than right), I simply watched excerpts of it last night, and I was a little sad, more than anything. Integrity in political figures is absolutely vanishing.
 
Are you completely trolling? You're being quite strange. I admitted that Ryan was lying a long time ago. What's wrong with you today?

I'm being resistant to attempts to relativize this instance of lying by implying it as equal to others. Ryan was the perpetrator of a low blow last night.

But, maybe you're right, my resistance on this point is getting exhausting... which is weird.
 
Name one instance where you have created a thread similar to this about the lies and deciets told by the Democrats.

Which particular speech by a Democrat was as deserving of a thread? You are constantly insisting that the two sides are engaging in this dishonesty in a basically equal way. So, which speech has the 5+ distinct whoppers that you see mentioned here?
 
Clinton tried to hold the line of oral sex does not equal relations, which means intercourse. As much as I disagree, there are a lot of dudes who think similarly. In fact, some dudes will say they "didn't have sex" if they don't climax (even though there was plenty of penetration). There are studies about these dynamics. Female reportage is very different.
 
Are you completely trolling? You're being quite strange. I admitted that Ryan was lying a long time ago. What's wrong with you today?

This is not about honesty. This is about trolling and bashing Ryan.
 
To actually contribute to this thread, I think that NAOS simply wants you and Stoked to admit that this was an especially ludicrous political speech, and an absolute embarrassment to the name of proper political representation of Americans. Moreso than your 'average' amount of lies told in any sort of political speech. Stoked brought up Clinton's address. I'd say it was on a similar level. I'm not saying this as a democrat-apologist (although I am more left-wing than right), I simply watched excerpts of it last night, and I was a little sad, more than anything. Integrity in political figures is absolutely vanishing.

I guess so. Not sure what the point is. I said, from the beginning, that Ryan was lying throughout his speech. Is it really important to somehow say it is the worst ever .. or like 9 on a scale of 10 .. whereas the 2nd worst in the modern era was a mere 6.8? I'm just missing the point, I guess ..
 
As for the Ryan speech I, again, did not see or listen to it. I knew better. As for another speech..."I did not have relations with that woman..." (couldn't miss that opportunity sorry)/

That may be one of the stupidest lies ever. That said, it was in personal defense, and not a lie to besmirch another person. It falls far short of Ryan's mess.
 
Clinton tried to hold the line of oral sex does not equal relations, which means intercourse. As much as I disagree, there are a lot of dudes who think similarly. In fact, some dudes will say they "didn't have sex" if they don't climax (even though there was plenty of penetration). There are studies about these dynamics. Female reportage is very different.

Spin it Mixmaster N! From the window...to the wall!
 
I know both sides tell lies, and make ridiculous promises.

I remember Obama promising to close guantanamo. What the hell happened there?

He couldn't get authorization through Congress, and it was politically inexpediant (no state was willing to host the prisoners on US soil).
 
That may be one of the stupidest lies ever. That said, it was in personal defense, and not a lie to besmirch another person. It falls far short of Ryan's mess.

I even showed that the reply you quoted was for a laugh. That is why I used (). He lied boldly and directly to the American people and to Congress becasue he thinks we are retards.
 
I guess so. Not sure what the point is. I said, from the beginning, that Ryan was lying throughout his speech. Is it really important to somehow say it is the worst ever .. or like 9 on a scale of 10 .. whereas the 2nd worst in the modern era was a mere 6.8? I'm just missing the point, I guess ..

Okay. I think this is where the disconnect is happening. To some it is very important to make that distinction. I personally am just growing absolutely sick from popular media, and am disgusted by how politics are handled on a massive scale. The fact that you need to lie, and deceive THIS MUCH to get votes simply defeats the purpose in this day and age is almost depressing.
 
This is not about honesty. This is about trolling and bashing Ryan.

It's about bashing a severe instance of lying.

That may be one of the stupidest lies ever. That said, it was in personal defense, and not a lie to besmirch another person. It falls far short of Ryan's mess.

Thanks for coming into the thread One Brow, but your intelligent distinctions (which are invaluable additions to this thread) will find no fertile soil amongst the so-called neutrally aligned.

Spin it Mixmaster N! From the window...to the wall!

Did I spin it? Was I apologizing/supporting Clinton? For christ's sake.......
 
He couldn't get authorization through Congress, and it was politically inexpediant (no state was willing to host the prisoners on US soil).

That is probably why he should not have made that absurd promise. Only using this one example of an absurd promise because it is the one currently being mentioned.
 
It's about bashing a severe instance of lying.



Thanks for coming into the thread One Brow, but your intelligent distinctions (which are invaluable additions to this thread) will find no fertile soil amongst the so-called neutrally aligned.



Did I spin it? Was I apologizing/supporting Clinton? For christ's sake.......




Oh you're a Christian now? Thank goodness. Welcome to the good guy team.
 
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