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Ron Paul supporters demand justice at the RNC.

Interesting video. We'll have to see how this plays out. It's unfortunate that Dr. Paul didn't win the nomination. Not surprising, but unfortunate.
 
Honest question: What is the actual impact on anything as a result of keeping the convention more orderly?

Disclaimer: I'm not saying it was the right thing to do as it's somewhat apparent Paul got shut out in contravention of the preset rules, but I'm wondering what the actual harm was.
 
Not that anyone should care, but I will be registering and voting this year. First time, and have been passing for twenty years. Once I do I may or may not participate in political discussion. My stance to this point has been that without voting I should not talk about it. I won't talk until I vote. Cheers to the rest of you.
 
Brown Notes said:
Not that anyone should care, but I will be registering and voting this year. First time, and have been passing for twenty years. Once I do I may or may not participate in political discussion. My stance to this point has been that without voting I should not talk about it. I won't talk until I vote. Cheers to the rest of you.
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Regardless of how you vote this is a good thing. Only way things truly change is if more of us start holding politicos feet to the fire
 
They have legitimate gripes. However I think they are gripping because of sour grapes. They are just pissed Ron Paul didn't win.
 
Sirkickyass said:
Honest question: What is the actual impact on anything as a result of keeping the convention more orderly?

Disclaimer: I'm not saying it was the right thing to do as it's somewhat apparent Paul got shut out in contravention of the preset rules, but I'm wondering what the actual harm was.
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I am not sure what the actual impact will be. I have talked to quite a few Libertarians who will either vote for their candidate(Johnson) or stay home. They seem to think they will determine the outcome of the election and will essentially get Obama re-elected. I guess we will see.
 
trigg3r said:
I am not sure what the actual impact will be. I have talked to quite a few Libertarians who will either vote for their candidate(Johnson) or stay home. They seem to think they will determine the outcome of the election and will essentially get Obama re-elected. I guess we will see.
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I applaud them for still standing up for their man, and letting the elite republican system know that what they did to Ron Paul was completely unfair.
Personally, I've never considered myself a Libertarian.
But there was only two guys on both sides of the fence, that I even considered were worth my vote.
Ron Paul on the Rep. side, and Dennis Kucinich on the Dem. side.
Both properly represent the Constitution, and that's all I ask.

As far as the outcome goes, I think Ron Paul supporters are going to give Romney's camp the biggest hurdle of this election, as I highly doubt most of them will vote for either Romney nor Obama.
 
trigg3r said:
I am not sure what the actual impact will be. I have talked to quite a few Libertarians who will either vote for their candidate(Johnson) or stay home. They seem to think they will determine the outcome of the election and will essentially get Obama re-elected. I guess we will see.
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I'll most likely be voting for Nader and cancelling out one of their votes.
but i do think most Ron Paul voters will vote Romney -- hope I'm wrong.
 
Brown Notes said:
Not that anyone should care, but I will be registering and voting this year. First time, and have been passing for twenty years. Once I do I may or may not participate in political discussion. My stance to this point has been that without voting I should not talk about it. I won't talk until I vote. Cheers to the rest of you.
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Well I guess I could show up and write in "none of the above" but as it stands there isn't a candidate worth voting for or who will make a damn bit of difference. I'll feel free to continue expressing that opinion.
 
Gameface said:
Well I guess I could show up and write in "none of the above" but as it stands there isn't a candidate worth voting for or who will make a damn bit of difference. I'll feel free to continue expressing that opinion.
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I've given serious consideration to not voting this year. But, something burns me up inside to have Wall Street himself just stroll into the White House just 4 years after meltdown.
 
Gameface said:
Well I guess I could show up and write in "none of the above" but as it stands there isn't a candidate worth voting for or who will make a damn bit of difference. I'll feel free to continue expressing that opinion.
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This is one thing I agree with Gameface on.
 
https://www.alt-market.com/articles...e-ron-paul-revolution-to-move-beyond-politics

As I sat in the Sun Dome in Tampa witnessing the last speech of Ron Paul’s campaign career, I felt the loss that lingered within the crowd, but this was not the end. Not to sound callous, but frankly, the best thing that could have happened to the movement today was a farewell from Ron Paul and an end to the political theater that most have been caught up in for the better part of this year. The game is over. The real battle begins.

Ron Paul did more for the movement than many of us had ever dreamed. He forced the Constitution back into the mainstream when we needed it most. He breathed life into America once again. But now, his job is done. Rand Paul will not carry the movement forward, nor will any other candidate, at least not in the short time this nation has left before it becomes entirely unrecognizable.

Now, Ron Paul activists will be forced walk away from the chessboard and to examine the legitimacy of bottom up solutions at the local level, rather than being obsessed with the top down drudgery at the federal level. They will have to insulate themselves using decentralized economic systems and self sustaining living methods. They will have to learn to produce necessities for themselves, and to interact within their communities face to face. They will be compelled to educate local police and military to wake them up to the civil catastrophes ahead. If they do seek out political strategies, it will have to be at the county and state levels, where there is at least a chance of making viable progress. And, most of all, they will have to adopt a self-defense mindset in addition to intelligent discourse. They will have to become what I would call ‘Warrior Poets’ in the shadow of this dark age. They will have to think, and feel, but also be willing to fight, and perhaps even die for their principles. They will have to become whole men and women, rather than incomplete people, projecting all their hopes and dreams into a governmental white knight that will never come.

Ultimately, politics has been warped into a mechanism by which the masses can hand over their responsibility to affect change within the system they live, and pass the buck on to others. It is time to move away from this failed dynamic. It is time for the Ron Paul revolution to mature, and to embrace the pain of doing what must be done. It is time to take matters into our own hands.
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