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Lot of sleeper TEs. Look for inexperienced QBs and those guys will target TE a lot. Don't bother trading. Wes pointed out Cook earlier, there are others as well.

I got in a league with a really weird lineup, QB, RB, RB, WR/TE, WR/TE, WR/TE, DP, DP, DP, D/ST, K.

Never drafted a TE, rated RBs on expected touches moreso than fantasy ranking, and went after DP a little earlier than the other owners. Those guys also thought I was dumb for getting my backup QB earlier than normal.

Here's the result. Browns board in a landslide believes I suck.

QB Stafford, DET
RB T. Richardson, CLE
RB D. Martin, TB
WR/TE J. Jones, ATL
WR/TE D. Thomas, DEN
WR/TE R. Wayne, IND
DP P.Willis, SF
DP P. Posluszny, JAC
DP M. Williams, BUF
D/ST Steelers
K P. Dawson, CLE

Bench I got Peyton Manning, Donald Brown, DHB, Titus Young, Jared Cook, and Earl Thomas. I was 10th drafting and took Richardson there, Stafford a couple picks later. It was really tough because the guy set picks at 30 seconds and the 2 dudes between my picks didn't show. Cook, Thomas and Dawson replace some poor choices. I probably will scour for another RB.

Gonna do another team on wednesday 30 bucks for charity and this league, I'm told only counts stats that come off of scoring plays. Still haven't seen the league rules but these guys still do it on paper. Not sure how I want to plan for that but obviously QB will be a big deal.
 
I've read mock drafts that have both Rodgers and McFadden in the TOP 5 - I wouldn't worry about your TE so much.

If you're looking for a sleeper you might want to look at NY Giants TE Martellus Bennet. He was stuck behind Witten in Dallas for a few years and the Giants offense always runs red zone pass plays to the TE - I wouldn't be surprised if he finished with 7 or 8 TD's this year.

Where we're you at my draft?! Was deciding between Bennett and Keller. Couldn't remember if it was his first year with NY or not. Didn't want him if he had already sucked there for a year.

As you can tell by my somewhat stacked team, the other people in my league aren't the most experienced. There is a few girls (girl won it last year though so who knows) and people who haven't played much. People were taking 3 TE's before I even got one so TE is super thin in that league.
 
Where we're you at my draft?! Was deciding between Bennett and Keller. Couldn't remember if it was his first year with NY or not. Didn't want him if he had already sucked there for a year.

This is Bennett's first year in NY. He's essentially replacing Greg Ballard - who caught more passes last year than in his entire college career.

Manning loves to check down to his TE - mostly because NY doesn't have the best receiving running backs (although first round pick David Wilson is supposed to be a decent at catching the ball out of the back field) And as I said TE's get plenty of looks in NY's red zone offense..

Bennett's a huge target and a way better athelete than both Boss and Ballard who both came before him and both had successful years in NY. If he stays healthy I have no doubt he'll put up numbers.
 
This is Bennett's first year in NY. He's essentially replacing Greg Ballard - who caught more passes last year than in his entire college career.

Manning loves to check down to his TE - mostly because NY doesn't have the best receiving running backs (although first round pick David Wilson is supposed to be a decent at catching the ball out of the back field) And as I said TE's get plenty of looks in NY's red zone offense..

Bennett's a huge target and a way better athelete than both Boss and Ballard who both came before him and both had successful years in NY. If he stays healthy I have no doubt he'll put up numbers.

Dang. No idea why I thought this was his 2nd year with NY. I know he has all the physical tools to be a stud, he's just kind of dumb, right? The girl who took him has 3 TE so she might drop him. Rather have him than Keller. No upside with Keller.
 
Dang. No idea why I thought this was his 2nd year with NY. I know he has all the physical tools to be a stud, he's just kind of dumb, right? The girl who took him has 3 TE so she might drop him. Rather have him than Keller. No upside with Keller.

Yeah, Bennett's known to be bit of a loose cannon. And he's playing for Coughlin who will bench your *** in a heartbeat if you don't do what you're told. So there is that.

Keller isn't horrible - he's just not going to put up big numbers. Classic low risk, low reward. Although he is in a contract year; so I would keep him for now.
 
Had my draft today...it's a little more yards oriented than most...one point every 5 yards rushing/receiving...one point every 10 passing...td's are 5,7,9,11 for rushing/receiving depending on distance...4,5,6,7 for passing depending on distance...

Newton, Freeman
Chris Johnson, Greene, Gerhart, Tate, Ringer
Nelson, D. Thomas, Blackmon, S. Moss, R. Moss, J. Gordon
Gates
Henery
Niners D, Chargers D

Love the Newton, CJ, Gates threesome...so much potential to explode in any week...have Nelson and Thomas getting balls from Rodgers and Manning...Gerhart is being vastly underrated imo...Greene can't be any worse than last year...best defense possibly...and a lot of shakiness yet huge upside at wr...
 
Had my draft today...it's a little more yards oriented than most...one point every 5 yards rushing/receiving...one point every 10 passing...td's are 5,7,9,11 for rushing/receiving depending on distance...4,5,6,7 for passing depending on distance...

Newton, Freeman
Chris Johnson, Greene, Gerhart, Tate, Ringer
Nelson, D. Thomas, Blackmon, S. Moss, R. Moss, J. Gordon
Gates
Henery
Niners D, Chargers D

Love the Newton, CJ, Gates threesome...so much potential to explode in any week...have Nelson and Thomas getting balls from Rodgers and Manning...Gerhart is being vastly underrated imo...Greene can't be any worse than last year...best defense possibly...and a lot of shakiness yet huge upside at wr...

I like Freeman, he will be better. We clearly are on the same page on Demaryious. For my draft I wanted either combo of Manning/Thomas or Cutler/Marshall and after seeing clips of the ball coming off Peyton's hand I went with the former.

That's not Josh Gordon, of the Browns, is it? Can't be. There must be another one.

I wouldn't have touched either Moss. Cheers.
 
I like Freeman, he will be better. We clearly are on the same page on Demaryious. For my draft I wanted either combo of Manning/Thomas or Cutler/Marshall and after seeing clips of the ball coming off Peyton's hand I went with the former.

That's not Josh Gordon, of the Browns, is it? Can't be. There must be another one.

I wouldn't have touched either Moss. Cheers.

Yeah, it was Moss and Gordon on the Browns in the 15th and 16th rounds respectively I think. We draft 18 rounds. And those were the best available imo at that point. No sense in getting some guy who could get me 45 yards a week. Go for the home runs for the 4th-6th wr's. And yeah, I preferred Decker but he had already been taken.
 
Had my draft today...it's a little more yards oriented than most...one point every 5 yards rushing/receiving...one point every 10 passing...td's are 5,7,9,11 for rushing/receiving depending on distance...4,5,6,7 for passing depending on distance...

Newton, Freeman
Chris Johnson, Greene, Gerhart, Tate, Ringer
Nelson, D. Thomas, Blackmon, S. Moss, R. Moss, J. Gordon
Gates
Henery
Niners D, Chargers D

Love the Newton, CJ, Gates threesome...so much potential to explode in any week...have Nelson and Thomas getting balls from Rodgers and Manning...Gerhart is being vastly underrated imo...Greene can't be any worse than last year...best defense possibly...and a lot of shakiness yet huge upside at wr...


Gerhart is a solid pick. Even if AP plays they will limit him. Only problem with either of them is that the Vikings are so bad they'll be throwing 90% of the time in the second half of games. I avoided both of them and went for guys like Michael Bush, Tate (which you have), and David Wilson in later rounds. I think Wilson has a shot at ROY.
 
Here's my team from another draft last night. Probably my best team out of the 10 or so teams I have.

Rodgers, Luck
Charles, McGahee, M Bush, Hillis, K Smith
Julio Jones, Decker, Bryant, Moore, James Jones
Pettigrew, Olsen
Gould
Steelers D
 
Gerhart is a solid pick. Even if AP plays they will limit him. Only problem with either of them is that the Vikings are so bad they'll be throwing 90% of the time in the second half of games. I avoided both of them and went for guys like Michael Bush, Tate (which you have), and David Wilson in later rounds. I think Wilson has a shot at ROY.

I agree a little but despite how bad they were last year (and they were bad) and despite starting just five games, Gerhart still had 721 total yards and four touchdowns, at a 4.9 yards per carry clip too which was better than AD. Having not played a snap or really done anything hard in practice, I could see the Vikes being much like the Colts were with Manning last year...Maybe next week, maybe next week, maybe next week and then finally just shutting him down so they can remain in the Barkley sweepstakes. They can't rush him back, that's for sure and it makes no sense to really play him at all imo given when the injury happened, his running style and how ****ty they're going to be anyway. They simply can't tell the fans that.

And yeah, I loved Wilson but my teammate didn't as much as I did and since I already dictate almost all the picks basically, I had to be nice.
 
Here's my team from another draft last night. Probably my best team out of the 10 or so teams I have.

Rodgers, Luck
Charles, McGahee, M Bush, Hillis, K Smith
Julio Jones, Decker, Bryant, Moore, James Jones
Pettigrew, Olsen
Gould
Steelers D

How many teams were in this league?
 
I'm meh on Bennett. Where did Jared Cook go in your draft? Dude could end up with 900 yards and 7 td's.

Can't remember but it was early. Girl who has him has Aaron Hernandez too. Gonna send her two separate trades for each guy and hopefully get one of them.
 
I agree a little but despite how bad they were last year (and they were bad) and despite starting just five games, Gerhart still had 721 total yards and four touchdowns, at a 4.9 yards per carry clip too which was better than AD. Having not played a snap or really done anything hard in practice, I could see the Vikes being much like the Colts were with Manning last year...Maybe next week, maybe next week, maybe next week and then finally just shutting him down so they can remain in the Barkley sweepstakes. They can't rush him back, that's for sure and it makes no sense to really play him at all imo given when the injury happened, his running style and how ****ty they're going to be anyway. They simply can't tell the fans that.

And yeah, I loved Wilson but my teammate didn't as much as I did and since I already dictate almost all the picks basically, I had to be nice.

I wouldn't go as far as saying the Vikes will be like the Colts of lasts year. There are still some weapons. TE Rudolph has great hands and could have a good season as young QBs look to their TEs often. Grehart as you said, can be great, and so can Harvin. The O-line and secondaries are improved, and the D-line still has Williams and Allen (who doesn't need a "beast mode" because that's how he always is). I'm not saying we contend, but 7-9 isn't out of the question. The schedule looks a little kinder this year.
 
I wouldn't go as far as saying the Vikes will be like the Colts of lasts year. There are still some weapons. TE Rudolph has great hands and could have a good season as young QBs look to their TEs often. Grehart as you said, can be great, and so can Harvin. The O-line and secondaries are improved, and the D-line still has Williams and Allen (who doesn't need a "beast mode" because that's how he always is). I'm not saying we contend, but 7-9 isn't out of the question. The schedule looks a little kinder this year.

I meant they'd be like them in how they handle dealing with their franchise player coming back from injury moreso, though I did throw the Barkley sweepstakes comment in there and think they'll be one of the worst five or six teams in the league. Ponder's just that bad imo. And I say that as a FSU fan.
 
If Tannenhill proves capable I think The Dolphins could win 9 or 10 games. Their defense is already above average and they have plenty of veteran pieces on offense. I don't expect Bush to repeat his second half from last year but that may be a blessing in disguise being Daniel Thomas may be the better overall back

Hell yeah.
The Dolphins are my boys.
 
How many teams were in this league?

12

Here's the breakdown from the draft...

Round Pick Player Position
1. (5) Aaron Rodgers QB
2. (20) Jamaal Charles RB
3. (29) Julio Jones WR
4. (44) Dez Bryant WR
5. (53) Eric Decker WR
6. (68) Peyton Hillis RB
7. (77) Willis McGahee RB
8. (92) Brandon Pettigrew TE
9. (101) Michael Bush RB
10. (116) Andrew Luck QB
11. (125) Lance Moore WR
12. (140) James Jones WR
13. (149) Kevin Smith RB
14. (164) Greg Olsen TE
15. (173) Pittsburgh DEF
16. (188) Robbie Gould K
 
Rogers @ 5 is insane.

Hillis I get where you're going but he isn't who you probably think he is. That dude is not a short yardage TD scorer. He excels on swing passes and being in space in general. Don't be fooled into thinking he's Mike Alstott because he is not. Not saying Hillis is garbage just that he isn't good at what a lot of "experts" are pigeonholing him into. He's a big dude with soft hands who is awesome at blowing up DBs. No wiggle in short space, can be tackled by swiping his ankle, and is/was crazy. Hillis' insanity was probably deserved since us Browns fans cheated our asses off to get him on the Madden cover but that story is still a head scratcher.


IMO like me you are likely to be scouring the wire often. I drafted Pitts D also with my last pick but have little faith in them for various reasons mainly age and depth.


Holy ****. https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/seahawks-release-te-kellen-winslow-surprise-move-125426149--nfl.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ObrNewswire+%28OBR+Newswire%29

Shehawks cut Winslow. I remember when that guy was going to be HOF. He really could have been that good. What makes this even more sad is that they signed Evan Moore to replace him, who we just cut. Holey moley.
 
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