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(not trying to be a provocateur) but it is September 11th

I am floored the Silencer is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist. I personally like the documentary Zeighiest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_E4N5YIycI. Another great look into the corruptions of the last Republicans in office is the movie Fair Game based on a true story.
 
Chris-L said:
Ya I get that. I guess my point was missed due to the neg reps. I meant we have every single other day of the year to discuss the why's and how's and what happened. Today is to focus on the people, the lives, the souls. And if we don't know anyone who lost their lives, to just rememeber how fragile life is and how lucky we are to still be alive and with our loved ones.
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I guess I am a robot, but I don't see why these 3,000 lives are all so much more important than all the other millions of lives that are lost every year. It's 11 years later, and still we have to have a big ceremony with the reading of the names again, after all the previous tributes repeated over and over. How many people are going to die or be maimed in auto accidents in the next year? Shouldn't we spend more time and resources preventing future tragedies than mourning over the past ones?
 
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Mission Accomplished said:
I am floored the Silencer is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist. I personally like the documentary Zeighiest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_E4N5YIycI. Another great look into the corruptions of the last Republicans in office is the movie Fair Game based on a true story.
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If by a "9/11 conspiracy theorist", you mean I listen to architects and engineers that say it would not be possible for Building 7 to drop into dust (at free fall speed) because of basement fires, then sure.

If that also means that listening to other experts that have found nano-thermite in the dust of each tower, with pools of molten metal that lasted for weeks, means conspiracy theorist.... then ok.

And if that also entails acknowledging first hand survivors accounts of what happened, and comparing them to the 9/11 commission report means the same.
Well..... you get it.
 
I think the building that just rolled over and kept rolling (OP Video) was a conspiracy. No way a building gets its foundation blown out and maintains structural integrity enough to roll around like a bulldozer unless it was constructed as a secret bunker/escape vehicle for Doctor Evil. Prove that a building is capable of getting its foundation destroyed and then rolling around on the ground intact or admit I'm correct!
 
NAOS said:
You think an appropriate investigation was carried out. I have doubts.
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What specific tests or examinations should have been conducted that were not, and what beneficial information would be derived from them?
 
TheSilencer1313 said:
If that also means that listening to other experts that have found nano-thermite in the dust of each tower, with pools of molten metal that lasted for weeks, means conspiracy theorist.... then ok.
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The "nano-thermite dust" was actually residue similar to what would be produced by a nano-thermite explosion. Many other types of explosions produce similar dust.

Once metal is molten (that is, melted, separated, and then solidified), is there any reason it should not last in that state for years, much less weeks?
 
In my town they are shipping in a giant piece of junk extracted from the remains of the towers, and making some sort of memorial out of it.
Certainly this is a more important use of finite resources than providing health care to all our citizens, right?
 
northeast said:
In my town they are shipping in a giant piece of junk extracted from the remains of the towers, and making some sort of memorial out of it.
Certainly this is a more important use of finite resources than providing health care to all our citizens, right?
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Is your town responsible for healthcare for all the residents or is that a Federal issue?
 
I do not know all the details of the money transfers. I would assume that some local and Federal dollars are going towards both objectives.
 
One Brow said:
What specific tests or examinations should have been conducted that were not, and what beneficial information would be derived from them?
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As far as I know, there wasn't any attempt made at reconstructing the steel (virtually, or otherwise) in order to determine exactly where the building was compromised and how. Also, if falling debris from WTCs 1 and 2 provided the fatal blows to the building, there would have been clear evidence of this if the rubble was parsed out and analyzed. It's an odd thing to see a 47 story tower collapse at free fall speed on its own footprint. I'd want to know EXACTLY how it happened.

^ in the end, this feels like a pretty basic request, no? ^
 
One Brow said:
The "nano-thermite dust" was actually residue similar to what would be produced by a nano-thermite explosion. Many other types of explosions produce similar dust.

Once metal is molten (that is, melted, separated, and then solidified), is there any reason it should not last in that state for years, much less weeks?
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What's the explanation for why there was molten steel 100 floors below where the hottest fires had already consumed their most combustible fuel? But, I digress, cuz I'm seriously not interested in discussing WTC 1 and 2.
 
I am no physicist, but it seems to me that with the building burning at the lower levels (as heard by firemen reports) for hours and hours (prior to the firemen being pulled away from the building for fear of collapse), it would have a major impact on the skeletal structure of the building.

In every photo and every video of the collapse, you can see columns far outpacing the collapse of the building. Not only are the columns falling faster than the building but they are also falling faster than the debris cloud which is ALSO falling faster than the building. This proves the buildings fell well below free fall speed.
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NAOS said:
As far as I know, there wasn't any attempt made at reconstructing the steel (virtually, or otherwise) in order to determine exactly where the building was compromised and how. Also, if falling debris from WTCs 1 and 2 provided the fatal blows to the building, there would have been clear evidence of this if the rubble was parsed out and analyzed.
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I'm confused by your request. What does "reconstructing the steel" mean? Putting up an identical steel cage and then collapsing it?

Are you saying no debris from tower 1 or 2 was found in the site of tower 7, or that the material of the buildings was so different that such a thing could be positively determined?
 
One Brow said:
I'm confused by your request. What does "reconstructing the steel" mean? Putting up an identical steel cage and then collapsing it?

Are you saying no debris from tower 1 or 2 was found in the site of tower 7, or that the material of the buildings was so different that such a thing could be positively determined?
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I think you're trying to misunderstand me at this point.
 
NAOS said:
I think you're trying to misunderstand me at this point.
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I can be dense at times, but I assure you I am trying to understand. I don't have any experience in forensics or the examination of buildings, so my gaps in knowledge are large.
 
northeast said:
I would assume molten steel burns through floors and falls to lower floors.
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The problem with this hypothesis is the fact that molten steel should have never been present in the first place.
According to physicists, (which I am not) the steel could not have melted due to basement fires.
No one has seemed to want to address this fact, and certainly the 9/11 commission didn't.
 
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