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There is a great documentary about the descendants of a slave trading family from the northeast, their history and their current positions in society; the Dewolfs of Rhode Island I think.
I highly recommend it. You might find it on a PBS website.
 
northeast said:
Just because someone made lots of money does not prove that they did good things.
How do the Christian Right reconcile this attitude with the whole camel/needle thing?
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I agree. Speaking for myself, I started my business career with a screw everyone, I'm gonna get mine, mentality. After several years I softened, a little.

As I got older I wanted to see good things happen for others more than for myself. Granted, I didn't need it anymore.
Still, not many people became ultra successful without leaving a bit of wreckage in their wake.
 
mellow said:
I'm still not convinced you are not a made up alias. And I mean that in the nicest way.
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With all due respect (I like you), I'm not here to convince people of anything. Having said that, I know some people on the forum. Hell, I've even provided links to a couple of my companies' websites. I've never had any other account than this one .. and PKM is my initials.
 
upbringing, total environment.
For example, are you sure that if he had to join a gang to survive puberty, he would have turned out the same way?
 
northeast said:
upbringing, total environment.
For example, are you sure that if he had to join a gang to survive puberty, he would have turned out the same way?
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I'm not engaging in a debate where everything will be worst-case, worst decisions, possible kind of thing.

I'm out.
 
You know I am starting to think Obama has to be one of the worst candidates for president if he isn't absolutely slaughtering Mittens by now.
 
PKM said:
I agree. Speaking for myself, I started my business career with a screw everyone, I'm gonna get mine, mentality. After several years I softened, a little.

As I got older I wanted to see good things happen for others more than for myself. Granted, I didn't need it anymore.
Still, not many people became ultra successful without leaving a bit of wreckage in their wake.
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That's because opening new markets (or claiming your STOCK in the FLOW of money and goods) in today's purely competitve marketplace (where there is a guy with a gun and a prison to enforce contracts [without whom purely competitive markets don't develop]) requires a certain violence. Capitalism and war have always gone together, and this plays out on many scales.

Secondly, a wise woman I know once said, "It's easy to be a sage when you're loaded."
 
NAOS said:
That's because opening new markets (or claiming your STOCK in the FLOW of money and goods) in today's purely competitve marketplace (where there is a guy with a gun and a prison to enforce contracts [without whom purely competitive markets don't develop]) requires a certain violence. Capitalism and war have always gone together, and this plays out on many scales.

Secondly, a wise woman I know once said, "It's easy to be a sage when you're loaded."
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Truth in all of that.
 
Been thinking (beware).
The Romney campaign should double down on what he said. They should own it. The trouble for the left and media (but I repeat myself) is that most Americans agree with Mitt Romney. Most Americans consider themselves part of the 53% and it is not a winning proposition for Barack Obama to convince Americans they are less than they think they are when most Americans already recognize he has made them less than they were.

Team Romney should force this debate onto the national stage. They should not walk it back. The American people are with him. It is the perfect time to remind people that Barack Obama, who authored Obamacare, wants to now be the arbiter of people’s fair share. To Obama, fair share means you fork over your money so others can have a life of government dependency. Romney’s point about government dependency ties perfectly to the dreadful economic news of late and is a perfect pivot back to that.
 
PKM said:
Been thinking (beware).
The Romney campaign should double down on what he said. They should own it. The trouble for the left and media (but I repeat myself) is that most Americans agree with Mitt Romney. Most Americans consider themselves part of the 53% and it is not a winning proposition for Barack Obama to convince Americans they are less than they think they are when most Americans already recognize he has made them less than they were.

Team Romney should force this debate onto the national stage. They should not walk it back. The American people are with him. It is the perfect time to remind people that Barack Obama, who authored Obamacare, wants to now be the arbiter of people’s fair share. To Obama, fair share means you fork over your money so others can have a life of government dependency. Romney’s point about government dependency ties perfectly to the dreadful economic news of late and is a perfect pivot back to that.
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He did double down today.
That's what conservative hacks do: double down when you're wrong and an ***. I think it is in the manual.
 
NAOS said:
He did double down today.
That's what conservative hacks do: double down when you're wrong and an ***. I think it is in the manual.
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So should I re-post, errr, double-down?

I also like doublewides .. double-troubles..
 
NUMBERICA said:
Everyone except complete degenerate ****ing idiots would still be rich. But Romney was able to take his opportunity and turn it into something. I disagree with the idea that most people would see the same level of success Mitt has had, largely because there are a lot of millionaire children that don't end up running huge investment capital firms or becoming governors. Whether I agree with how he ran his business or his governorship or not. But he took his opportunity and ran with it which, again, is still more than a lot of people do at similar, greater, or lesser levels.

Of course that is not to say if he was born in a middle-class family or lower his fate would be even similar and I definitely contend that it would be basically anything but. Like the vast majority of the rest of us.
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You've been ridiculously on point lately . I'm starting to wonder if Mitt has your inner LDS child better half trying to break through again. Go back to the guy we love to hate.
 
PKM said:
Been thinking (beware).
The Romney campaign should double down on what he said. They should own it. The trouble for the left and media (but I repeat myself) is that most Americans agree with Mitt Romney. Most Americans consider themselves part of the 53% and it is not a winning proposition for Barack Obama to convince Americans they are less than they think they are when most Americans already recognize he has made them less than they were.

Team Romney should force this debate onto the national stage. They should not walk it back. The American people are with him. It is the perfect time to remind people that Barack Obama, who authored Obamacare, wants to now be the arbiter of people’s fair share. To Obama, fair share means you fork over your money so others can have a life of government dependency. Romney’s point about government dependency ties perfectly to the dreadful economic news of late and is a perfect pivot back to that.
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I agree. Romney should really push the phrase "Obama's 47%" and make it a negative for Obama. 47% after all is a losing number.
 
From what I heard (and I was doing like 3 other things at the same time), it wasn't a strong double down. He tried to explain his statistic by saying he was including an elderly population that wasn't paying income tax (I'm sure there were other categories he threw in there to make 47% look reachable). I'm not sure how well that will play in Florida.

Can anybody confirm the content of this double down?
 
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