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. How they finished 2012:

The Utah Jazz finished last season with a flourish, a rush of excitement and then a thud into a brick wall. They wouldn't have had it any other way. The Jazz won seven of their final eight games to finish 36-30 and stave off the Houston Rockets and Phoenix Suns for the eighth and final Western Conference playoff spot. Not bad for their first full season under coach Tyrone Corbin, especially with four players 21 and younger (Gordon Hayward, Derrick Favors, Alec Burks and Enes Kanter) playing rotation minutes. The return to the postseason was a particularly sweet and slightly unexpected surprise: the trade of Deron Williams and the sudden retirement of longtime coach Jerry Sloan in 2011 had made it seem like a longer term rebuilding process would be necessary. Once in the playoffs, though, reality set in. The No. 1 seed San Antonio Spurs made quick work of the Jazz, sweeping them into the offseason and winning each of the four games by an average margin of 16 points.

II. Needs entering the offseason:

Like almost every "good but not great" small market team, the Jazz entered the offseason needing a new franchise player to replace Williams. That wasn't a particularly realistic scenario given the available free agents, though, so this summer became an exercise in making calculated improvements while letting a young nucleus grow up together.

The major position to be addressed looked to be point guard, as Devin Harris, one of the pieces that came over from the New Jersey Nets in the Williams trade, wasn't an ideal fit and had just completed a disappointing season. Harris, whose bread-and-butter is the pick-and-roll, never really adapted to a Jazz roster that got most of its scoring from big men Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap, who prefer to get their points in other ways. At various times during the 2011-12 season, Corbin turned to veterans Earl Watson and Jamaal Tinsley, and Harris wound up averaging his fewest minutes per game since 2006-07. His numbers, especially his scoring (11.3 points per game, down from 15.8 the previous season), subsequently took a predictable hit. You couldn't really blame Corbin for exploring alternatives because Harris was struggling with both his shot and his defense.

Addressing the point guard position seemed to be a true "need." The rest of Utah's decisions this summer were more of the "Do we do it now or later?" variety. The biggest of these concerns: finding more playing time for young power forward Derrick Favors, who averaged 8.8 points and 6.5 minutes in 21.2 minutes last season and flashed star potential at the age of 20. With Jefferson and Millsap supplying big production and eating up big minutes in big minutes in front of him on the depth chart, Favors' limited playing time was understandable. Eventually, whether that's this season or next, it will be blooming time for Favors and something (someone) will have to give so that he can get some real burn. With both Jefferson and Millsap entering the final seasons of their respective contracts, a decision is coming one way or another, possibly at this year's trade deadline.

Past that, forwards C.J. Miles and Jeremy Evans were heading for free agency. If Miles wasn't retained, and it seemed his time in Utah was up, a replacement would need to be found to supplement Hayward at the three. Finally, guard Raja Bell had been squawking about a desire for more minutes and a fractured relationship with Corbin for months. With one season worth $3.5 million left on his contract, a trade or a buyout was a clear possibility.

III. The Draft:

One major drawback of making the playoffs in 2012: the Jazz had to fork over their first-round pick to the Timberwolves as stipulated in the 2010 trade that landed Jefferson in Utah from Minnesota. With so many promising young players already on the roster, the Jazz punted on the 2012 Draft, opting not to trade back into the first round and instead adding just one new player, Kevin Murphy, in the second round. A scoring guard with size out of Tennessee Tech, Murphy was signed this week and will provide depth behind Burks.

IV. Free Agency:

Utah's two biggest moves of the summer came by trade rather than free agency. First, the Jazz absorbed Los Angeles Clippers guard Mo Williams into a trade exception to help facilitate the Dallas Mavericks' trade of Lamar Odom to L.A. This something-for-nothing move netted a starting quality point guard, making it even more clear that Harris' time in Salt Lake City was coming to a swift end. Sure enough, just a few days later, the Jazz shipped Harris to the Atlanta Hawks for small forward Marvin Williams. The re-tooling Hawks did the deal to get rid of Williams' contract, which extends one year longer than Harris' and will pay him $7.5 million during the 2013-14 season. The moves weren't particularly crippling for Utah, though, as Marvin Williams' addition meant the Jazz wouldn't have to pay for Miles (or some other replacement) and because Mo Williams, like Harris, is on an $8.5 million expiring contract.

The effect of these dual moves, then, was for the Jazz to improve their rotation at two important positions -- point guard and small forward -- at the cost of roughly $10 million. That's the cost of paying Marvin Williams the rest of his (too large but not horrific) contract minus the value of the 2-year deal that Miles signed with the Cleveland Cavaliers. While Marvin Williams isn't worth triple Miles, as their respective salaries now indicate, subbing out Harris for Mo Williams' spot-up shooting, play-making skills and leadership ability looks like a big win from a fit perspective.

Utah then took another step to make a problem child more expendable, inking Randy Foye to a 1-year deal worth $2.5 million. This move isn't anything to write home about, but it's a fair contract for a proven veteran and it adds some experience to a position that is otherwise occupied by two youngsters, Burks and Murphy. More importantly, Foye's addition rendered Bell totally irrelevant, although the Jazz, as of this writing, have been unable to finish off the expected buyout.

Finally, Utah tidied up the rest of its business by signing the high-flying Evans, the 2012 Slam Dunk Contest champion, to a 3-year deal worth $5.2 million. It's unclear whether his all-around game will develop, but Evans was affordable and has enough skill to warrant a flier.

V. Overall grade and accomplishments: B

The best move of Utah's offseason actually had nothing to do with its roster. The Jazz succeeded where many others have failed, prying Dennis Lindsey away from his post as assistant GM of the San Antonio Spurs. With Lindsey installed as the new GM in Utah, longtime Jazz GM Kevin O'Connor was able to transition a less demanding role upstairs. In Lindsey, the Jazz acquired an executive who understands the nuances of building a roster that can compete over the long haul in a small market while staying true to the franchise's core values and while finding players that fit the team's culture. It was a smart hire and one that will serve them well over the next 12 months, as Jefferson, Millsap, Mo Williams, Foye, Watson and Tinsley will all be free agents next summer.

This summer wound up being a fairly typical Jazz effort. Nothing particularly splashy. Methodical and clinical. No real risks taken. Some meaningful upgrades made. They didn't necessarily take every step they needed to but they also clearly didn't misstep, either. The Jazz remain in solid position to make the Western Conference playoffs next year, although their ceiling is likely the No. 6 seed. Could be better; could be worse. A "B" feels right here.


Quite a solid article, seriously.
 
It is a good summary with some positive spin. But the big questions remain: Did we do enough to really compete in the playoffs? How are our young guys going to earn minutes?
 
It is a good summary with some positive spin. But the big questions remain: Did we do enough to really compete in the playoffs? How are our young guys going to earn minutes?

I honestly believe that we did. The Jazz have one of the best front courts in the league. One of the major offensive problems the Jazz had last year was the lack of perimeter threats that could reliably stretch the floor. Teams collapsed in the paint all the time.

The Jazz brought in 3 point shooters and removed 3 (Harris, Miles and Howard) that were not getting the job done. If these new shooters do the job they were brought in for and Hayward shows improvement than the Jazz could be an elite offensive team. Rival teams will not be able to risk leaving the perimeter. This will benefit our bigs. Couple that with the continued emergence of Favors and I think he is in for a big year.

From everything I have read Randy Foye and Marvin Williams are good defensive players. Add them along side Favors and Hayward and that is an upgrade on that side of the ball. Yes Big Al is a liability, especially in the pick and roll, but the other positions have upgraded defensively.

One of the western teams that clearly upgraded was the Lakers and they were already ahead of us. Dallas didn't get that much better and I actually think they will loose ground. Same with Portland.

S.A., Lakers, OKC, Denver, Clips and Memphis will be our biggest competition in my opinion. I see the Jazz finishing 5th or 6th. We are not there yet but we made clear, focused steps in that direction.

Edit: 3 Point % (career)
Mo Willaims 38%
Marvin Williams 33% (38% last year)
Randy Foye 36% (38% last year)
 
i am quietly very excited about marvin (probably more so than mo and foye combined) but i think it's a little silly to foam at the mouth over his one good year of 3-point shooting. take out that one outlier season and he shoots 31% from deep.

he's basically as accomplished a 3-point shooter as... wait for it... CJ. both had a couple years under 30%, both have had one really good year in the high 30s, and both have an almost identical 32.9% career percentage.
 
i am quietly very excited about marvin (probably more so than mo and foye combined) but i think it's a little silly to foam at the mouth over his one good year of 3-point shooting. take out that one outlier season and he shoots 31% from deep.

he's basically as accomplished a 3-point shooter as... wait for it... CJ. both had a couple years under 30%, both have had one really good year in the high 30s, and both have an almost identical 32.9% career percentage.


I would bet $500 that Marv will shoot >35% from three this season. A player like Al is any three point shooter's dream come true, especially if he keeps feeding it out to the perimeter like he did last season. I know I know, Marv's three point shooting isn't his specialty, but if anything I feel he's gonna be getting very similar looks at the very least, and maybe even more due to how good our post players are.
 
I would bet $500 that Marv will shoot >35% from three this season. A player like Al is any three point shooter's dream come true, especially if he keeps feeding it out to the perimeter like he did last season. I know I know, Marv's three point shooting isn't his specialty, but if anything I feel he's gonna be getting very similar looks at the very least, and maybe even more due to how good our post players are.

are you serious about that bet? Who wants to ink up this deal?
 
I would bet $500 that Marv will shoot >35% from three this season. A player like Al is any three point shooter's dream come true, especially if he keeps feeding it out to the perimeter like he did last season. I know I know, Marv's three point shooting isn't his specialty, but if anything I feel he's gonna be getting very similar looks at the very least, and maybe even more due to how good our post players are.

yeah i can totally see what you mean:
28th in the league in team 3 point makes
29th in the league in team 3 point attempts
27th in the league in team 3 point percentage


he is a shooter's dream, obviously.
 
yeah i can totally see what you mean:
28th in the league in team 3 point makes
29th in the league in team 3 point attempts
27th in the league in team 3 point percentage


he is a shooter's dream, obviously.

not to mention the long history of shooters coming here and increasing their 3 point shooting percentage.
 
yeah i can totally see what you mean:
28th in the league in team 3 point makes
29th in the league in team 3 point attempts
27th in the league in team 3 point percentage


he is a shooter's dream, obviously.


Are you really trying to make this argument right now?



Frank, where are ya?
 
are you serious about that bet? Who wants to ink up this deal?

I've never made a monetary bet, nor have I gambled. But you can quote me on this, and you can control my sig through all of the offseason. If you want to make this a deal. Up to you.

I just think that us being 28th from three in the league or wtv was because we were starting a SF who averaged 24%, and our best three point threat didn't even really start playing until the second half of the season (Devin Harris, but same goes for Gordon Hayward really).
 
I've never made a monetary bet, nor have I gambled. But you can quote me on this, and you can control my sig through all of the offseason. If you want to make this a deal. Up to you.

I just think that us being 28th from three in the league or wtv was because we were starting a SF who averaged 24%, and our best three point threat didn't even really start playing until the second half of the season (Devin Harris, but same goes for Gordon Hayward really).

So, the bet is about marvin shooting greater than 35% from 3? Any control for number of attempts?

And the stakes are control of the losers signature for the entire offseason? Are their any other qualifiers?
 
So, the bet is about marvin shooting greater than 35% from 3? Any control for number of attempts?

And the stakes are control of the losers signature for the entire offseason? Are their any other qualifiers?


I don't really care, I'll let you come up with specifics if you really want to make this happen.
 
I don't really care, I'll let you come up with specifics if you really want to make this happen.

If I felt confident we were going to have essentially the same offense as last year, then I'd take this bet without much hesitation. In other words, your emphasis on Jefferson is just wrong, IMO.

There is a chance, however, that Corbin will do something distinctly different this year -- which could very well involve a commitment to the 3-pnt shot. It's also unclear the precise role Lindsey will have... and we all know where he came from.

The system (and Jefferson's efficiency and alacrity within it) will get us 3s, not Jefferson's innate style or willingness.

EDIT: I'll think about it.
 
If I felt confident we were going to have essentially the same offense as last year, then I'd take this bet without much hesitation. In other words, your emphasis on Jefferson is just wrong, IMO.

There is a chance, however, that Corbin will do something distinctly different this year -- which could very well involve a commitment to the 3-pnt shot. It's also unclear the precise role Lindsey will have... and we all know where he came from.

The system (and Jefferson's efficiency and alacrity within it) will get us 3s, not Jefferson's innate style or willingness.

EDIT: I'll think about it.



And you putting the blame on our seasonal shooting woes on Jefferson is wrong, IMO. But whatever, agree to disagree. Any center that commands a double-team is a shooter's dream come true. Especially if he is the focal point of our offense, just like Jefferson is for this Utah team. So on one hand you say our offensive system will get us threes, hence agreeing with me, but then you say its not because of Jefferson's style or willingness. Well, duh. What Im saying is that our offense revolves around Jefferson, and one of the perks of our offense is the fact that our perimeter players are WIDE open from three, if the defenders choose to sag in, in attempts to guard our more talented scorers.
 
It's a question of your emphasis... not that you're entirely wrong. Confer with my statement about System+Jefferson in order to see that I don't ENTIRELY disagree with you.

But, then we should both look at last year's Finals teams and wonder where their Cs commanding doubles were....
 
It's a question of your emphasis... not that you're entirely wrong. Confer with my statement about System+Jefferson in order to see that I don't ENTIRELY disagree with you.

But, then we should both look at last year's Finals teams and wonder where their Cs commanding doubles were....

Not a fan of this point when people bring it up, because it is quite clear that our only way to a championship won't be via the Miami or OKC route. We don't have a Durant, or a Lebron. Or a Westbrook. We should focus on creating a team similar to the 2004 Pistons, whether we like it or not. I can't see Favors becoming a 24/10 player, or Hayward quite frankly. MAYBE Burks. But the thing is, I really don't care. Id love to have all starters average around 15-20, and ALL of them be capable to drop 30 on ya in any given night. Hopefully one of the core members emerges as a clutch-time performer. Im looking at you, God.


But yeah, I think you misunderstood my emphasis/my wording could have been better. A little bit of both. Obviously Jefferson himself isn't Tim Duncan, but Ty using Al as our focal point helps shooters.
 
I just think that us being 28th from three in the league or wtv was because we were starting a SF who averaged 24%, and our best three point threat didn't even really start playing until the second half of the season (Devin Harris, but same goes for Gordon Hayward really).

here's what's funny about this argument... josh howard started in 18 games and took 37 3-point attempts all year so he's not fueling the low percentage much at all. but to the degree that he did, he's actually the poster boy for the argument AGAINST al: he arrived in utah with a career 33.6% rate and then tanked to 24% here. how exactly, then, is al a shooter's dream.

earl had a career % of 33.1% until last year's 19% debacle. tell him that al is a shooter's dream.

even CJ shot 35% in his three seasons as a rotation player before al arrived. al got here and then it was down to 32% and 31%. shooter's dream.

devin is the only guy who really saw his 3 pt percentage improve by playing with al is devin (30.1% before the jazz, 36% here) and that's because he benefited from the one type of assist al knows how to deliver: the reset pass back out to the point on the strong-side wing.
 
here's what's funny about this argument... josh howard started in 18 games and took 37 3-point attempts all year so he's not fueling the low percentage much at all. but to the degree that he did, he's actually the poster boy for the argument AGAINST al: he arrived in utah with a career 33.6% rate and then tanked to 24% here. how exactly, then, is al a shooter's dream.

earl had a career % of 33.1% until last year's 19% debacle. tell him that al is a shooter's dream.

even CJ shot 35% in his three seasons as a rotation player before al arrived. al got here and then it was down to 32% and 31%. shooter's dream.

devin is the only guy who really saw his 3 pt percentage improve by playing with al is devin (30.1% before the jazz, 36% here) and that's because he benefited from the one type of assist al knows how to deliver: the reset pass back out to the point on the strong-side wing.

So much win in this post. Especially the bold which I've stressed over and over.
 
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