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In all seriousness, it takes an awful lot (including luck) to win a national championship. (You've already called him a cheater, 'bought' the recruiting class, etc.. I am going to address your question, now.. if you revert back to name-calling, I'll just presume you're simply trolling .. btw, in an ANONYMOUS poll of 50 Div1 head coaches, not one said they think Calipari cheats/pays players, etc .. but said he'd the best at pushing the envelope and taking full advantage of every conceivable opportunity, so drop the straw man.)
You mentioned Izzo winning with more talent despite coaching 100 less games. Truth is, Calipari took UMass to the F4 (aka, Massachussettes) and they had never done anything before, nor since.
He took Memphis to a F4 and a NC game .. Memphis was 100% irrelevant prior to Calipari. It was only a couple years before he left that he started getting any real talent .. he's only started raking in the elite classes in the past 6/7 years .. starting around Rose/Evans ..
After a couple of his first great classes and taking Memphis to back-to-back F4's, he came to UK and took a team coming off a year it missed the NCAA tourney to an Elite 8 in year 1, F4 in year 2, and a national championship in year 3 .. and riding the nation's longest home winning streak at 53.
He's coached 3 schools and took them all to the F4 .. with two of those schools having never sniffed success prior to his arrival.
Only coach to have ever taken 3 different schools to a F4. Only coach to have ever led three different schools to a number 1 seed in the NCAA tourney.
Has been named National Coach of the year 3 times.
The guy led a charge that raised $2MM for the Haitian earthquake victims. There are tweets from sports media guys going out like crazy about his telethon that raised more than $500k for victims of SANDY. (stop being a douche, Wes)
His other, personal contributions from this year, that I am aware of;
* $110,000 to West Liberty Recovery Fund, a fund dedicated to helping tornado victims of the Eastern Ky town
* $60,000 to 4Paws for Ability, which provides dog services to military families
* $55,000 to the Starkey Hearing Foundation, which helps provide hearing aids for children
* $50,000 to EverFi Financial Literacy program, which teaches student across Kentucky the importance of money management
* $25,000 to Samaritan’s Feet, which provides shoes for the needy
* $25,000 to Urban League of Lexington, which assists African Americans and disadvantaged citizens in Lexington in the achievement of social and economic equality
* $25,000 to the V Foundation, a charitable organization dedicated to saving lives by helping find a cure for cancer
NOTE: I only brought up Izzo because he's the 2nd highest paid coach in the country. I really like Izzo, quite a lot .. just wanted to clarify I wasn't attacking him, only using him for reference/comparable.
Not sure why you're so adamant to say the guys sucks, but it seems there are far easier and more credible targets. If you're just riling me up, well, okay .. glad you're entertained.
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The Gold Standard.
You da man Jim!
Jim retired, though.. so how bout dem nuts?
Tough game tonight on ESPN. Calipari said Harrow and Mays are both too sick to play. All new players, no starting PG, no sharp-shooting Mays .. against a good Maryland team could be tough for these young guys in their first game that counts.
On the bright side, that likely means we're going to see, very early on, Archie Goodwin running the show.
On the bright side, that likely means we're going to see, very early on, Archie Goodwin running the show.
Gyp Rosetti
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Name-calling? I'm pretty sure I never called you a name so you're upset that I called Cal a name? Is he your lover or something? Geez. Listen, sorry if UK and Cal's integrity comes into question but it's a fact that MKG's mom drove up in a Bentley to his HS graduation. And that's not shady? Sorry but that only happens by breaking NCAA rules. Period. End of story. Dejuan Wagner's not able to bank roll anyone any longer. As far as the poll goes, so what? They almost all cheat. Even my beloved Izzo I'm sure.
They were actually a very good program in the 60's and 70's. No national titles but many conference titles and NIT births. That's hardly nothing. Or has Mark Few done nothing at Gonzaga as well? And I only mentioned how Izzo has done more in fewer games because you brought up his length of coaching while the facts are, Cal's coached over 100 games more.
The year before Cal came, yes, they sucked badly. But from '79-'99, they went 408-215. Hardly bad. From '92-'96, they were a 5 seed, 6 seed twice and #10 seed in the tourney. They were good. Were they not relevant? That's up for debate. And yes, it did take Cal a while to get elite draft classes. About seven years in fact. Is that impressive?
Very impressive yes. But again, when you get insane recruiting classes, it's what should happen. He's met expectations. Izzo's exceeded them.
Refer above to see how UMass and Memphis had sniffed success prior to Sir Cal's arrival. But before you do so, you may want to fact check. He's won the Naismith COY award only twice and never won the AP one. The only ones that really matter.
Extremely impressive actually.
I'm sure that's not the only reason you brought up Izzo. Can we be intellectually honest please? That said, I never said Calipari sucks. He's a great coach. But to put him in a pantheon all his own, as you were doing, was pathetic and you needed to have your **** checked. He's a great coach. Along with many others.
Now, can we end this? You're getting your *** handed to you and I'm a pacifist at heart.
XOXOXO
I had forgotten you were an Izzo fan, actually. We obviously have different definitions of success and meeting/exceeding expectations.
I have only ever called Cal a very good coach. To be honest, I'm not really certain how good of an x's and o's guy he is. Most people in the business state that he's an underrated floor coach .. but that's not really saying anything because everyone just assumes he wins because of elite talent. Hard to know how much he'd win with MichSt talent (not implying they are void of it). My opinion is Cal is very good coach, my opinion is he is extremely good at getting guys to play hard and reach levels of play earlier than any other coach in the business. The only place the opinions end is when it comes to recruiting. Everything else, I suppose, is up for debate.
I have only ever called Cal a very good coach. To be honest, I'm not really certain how good of an x's and o's guy he is. Most people in the business state that he's an underrated floor coach .. but that's not really saying anything because everyone just assumes he wins because of elite talent. Hard to know how much he'd win with MichSt talent (not implying they are void of it). My opinion is Cal is very good coach, my opinion is he is extremely good at getting guys to play hard and reach levels of play earlier than any other coach in the business. The only place the opinions end is when it comes to recruiting. Everything else, I suppose, is up for debate.
Gyp Rosetti
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The best at that, yes. Nowhere did I say he's the best floor coach. I think we're both tired of this stupid debate. Perhaps I should have worded it differently..
Cal is the best recruiter and developer of young talent, period.*
*unsure if he's the best floor coach.
You mean how's he doing?
Incredible shooter, incredible post moves .. complete disaster on defense.
Definitely. He'll get about 17/18 minutes per game I'd say. We can gamble with his defense with Noel and WCS down low.
Kyle Wiltjer.
jazzrule
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Don't know if this information has been posted, but here it is. Myck Kabongo will not play in the Texas Longhorns' season opener as the NCAA continues its investigation into whether an agent paid for an off-season trip and workout.
Kabongo traveled to Ohio over the summer to train with Cleveland Cavaliers forward Tristan Thompson, who is represented by agent Rich Paul.
The NCAA is examining whether Paul paid for Kabongo’s trip and lodging in Ohio.
Via Mike DeCourcy/Sporting News
Kabongo traveled to Ohio over the summer to train with Cleveland Cavaliers forward Tristan Thompson, who is represented by agent Rich Paul.
The NCAA is examining whether Paul paid for Kabongo’s trip and lodging in Ohio.
Via Mike DeCourcy/Sporting News
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
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If this did happen, why didn't Thompson just pay for it? Jesus, he should know a little better and makes enough money to spot him or pay for him.
If this did happen, why didn't Thompson just pay for it? Jesus, he should know a little better and makes enough money to spot him or pay for him.
orangello
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Canadians leave a lot to be desired. Just ask Dal and all of his ex's.
What reason do you have for that being permissible?