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Official Utah Utes Football 2012 Thread

Oregon and Stanford. That's a good thing. I'd rather watch the Utes lose to quality opponents than run the table over a bunch of cupcakes every year.

Yes, we've struggled in the PAC12, but I don't see any reason to assume that those struggles are going to continue forever. For a true freshman, thrown into the fire, I thought Travis Wilson fared as well as can be expected. He has all the heart that Wynn didn't, plus skills. He will improve. Brian Johnson will mature and settle in. Whit will recruit to shore up the weaknesses in the offense, and to maintain a strong defense. I think every Ute fan wanted to believe that we would be an instant contender, but reality is a cruel master. That being said, there is a lot of reason for optimism.

/homersoapbox
 
Bronco70 said:
Oregon and Stanford. That's a good thing. I'd rather watch the Utes lose to quality opponents than run the table over a bunch of cupcakes every year.

Yes, we've struggled in the PAC12, but I don't see any reason to assume that those struggles are going to continue forever. For a true freshman, thrown into the fire, I thought Travis Wilson fared as well as can be expected. He has all the heart that Wynn didn't, plus skills. He will improve. Brian Johnson will mature and settle in. Whit will recruit to shore up the weaknesses in the offense, and to maintain a strong defense. I think every Ute fan wanted to believe that we would be an instant contender, but reality is a cruel master. That being said, there is a lot of reason for optimism.

/homersoapbox
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I hope you're right. I want to see the Utes do well. I just don't share your optimism.
 
leftyjace said:
No offense, but if you want to talk about BYU's quarterback, feel free to go into their thread. We have enough stress with the Utes. Don't need to waste time on them.
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Maybe you should check that thread. Way more Ute fans post in the BYU thread than BYU fans.
 
bronco70 said:
oregon and stanford. That's a good thing. I'd rather watch the utes lose to quality opponents than run the table over a bunch of cupcakes every year.

Yes, we've struggled in the pac12, but i don't see any reason to assume that those struggles are going to continue forever. For a true freshman, thrown into the fire, i thought travis wilson fared as well as can be expected. He has all the heart that wynn didn't, plus skills. He will improve. Brian johnson will mature and settle in. Whit will recruit to shore up the weaknesses in the offense, and to maintain a strong defense. I think every ute fan wanted to believe that we would be an instant contender, but reality is a cruel master. That being said, there is a lot of reason for optimism.

/homersoapbox
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this!
 
The only "sure" win Utah has on their schedule next year is Weber State. They'll most likely beat BYU and they get Utah State at home but neither game is a lock (especially the Utah State game). The conference schedule is going to be brutal. I believe Stanford is in SLC and Oregon is on the road.

I think next season is a BIG year for Whittingham and the Utah program. A poor showing next year and all hell could break loose.
 
jazzman12 said:
The only "sure" win Utah has on their schedule next year is Weber State. They'll most likely beat BYU and they get Utah State at home but neither game is a lock (especially the Utah State game). The conference schedule is going to be brutal. I believe Stanford is in SLC and Oregon is on the road.

I think next season is a BIG year for Whittingham and the Utah program. A poor showing next year and all hell could break loose.
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It might, but it shouldn't. Whit really is a good coach, and usually does well using the whole underdog thing. Wilson looks like he should be decent. I don't know what type of players you will have to replace Star and any other players that are gone, but Utah generally has pretty good players and athletes.

BYU should be better offensively and worse defensively. Like you said, could be a toss up game. If so, I give the edge to the Utes, they seem to win the close ones most of the time.
 
JazzSpazz said:
I don't know what type of players you will have to replace Star and any other players that are gone, but Utah generally has pretty good players and athletes.
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Nobody is going to replace Star, but Junior Salt could fill the gap if he recovers from his injury. He was supposed to be next to Star this season until he broke his foot in camp.
 
YB85 said:
Nobody is going to replace Star, but Junior Salt could fill the gap if he recovers from his injury. He was supposed to be next to Star this season until he broke his foot in camp.
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Thanks for the info, I'll watch for the name.
Don't hate me if I don't go out of my way though, just mildly curious.

How about the remaining Krugers? Is there only one left, or two and how long do they have left?

I know, lazy... I'm too lazy to look it up.
 
JazzSpazz said:
Thanks for the info, I'll watch for the name.
Don't hate me if I don't go out of my way though, just mildly curious.

How about the remaining Krugers? Is there only one left, or two and how long do they have left?

I know, lazy... I'm too lazy to look it up.
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Joe Kruger is a junior so he should be back he's the DE 6'7"ish #99 and there is a younger brother, hadn't looked to see what grade or if he has committed to Utah.

Dave Kruger DT is the one that graduates this year
 
There are two more Krugers. One from Lone Peak and one at PG I think. Sent them both packing in the playoffs this year.
 
JazzSpazz said:
It might, but it shouldn't. Whit really is a good coach, and usually does well using the whole underdog thing. Wilson looks like he should be decent. I don't know what type of players you will have to replace Star and any other players that are gone, but Utah generally has pretty good players and athletes.

BYU should be better offensively and worse defensively. Like you said, could be a toss up game. If so, I give the edge to the Utes, they seem to win the close ones most of the time.
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Interested to see what's going to go on with BYU's coaching staff after the season. I heard Holmoe made some comments about a month ago in which he hinted at some chemistry issues with the staff that could be dealt with in the offseason. Could Doman be headed out the door?
 
jazzman12 said:
Interested to see what's going to go on with BYU's coaching staff after the season. I heard Holmoe made some comments about a month ago in which he hinted at some chemistry issues with the staff that could be dealt with in the offseason. Could Doman be headed out the door?
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Who knows. Might be too soon, but I'm pretty sure it was too soon to put him in as OC in the first place.

I much prefer the passing game, which probably requires coaches that know how to teach and game plan a passing game.
I don't think Doman knows enough about the passing game, and nuances to be effective.
He knows the option game and run/pass mix, but that gap in knowledge hurts in a lot of ways.

Coaches really need to be mostly teachers, and a smaller portion is game plan. Good players can cover up issues, but it would be really nice to have good/great coaching along with good/great players.

I guess we will see what happens this off season.

Here's a trick question. Who is the better QB coach, Max Hall... or Jordan Wynn?
 
JazzSpazz said:
Who knows. Might be too soon, but I'm pretty sure it was too soon to put him in as OC in the first place.

I much prefer the passing game, which probably requires coaches that know how to teach and game plan a passing game.
I don't think Doman knows enough about the passing game, and nuances to be effective.
He knows the option game and run/pass mix, but that gap in knowledge hurts in a lot of ways.

Coaches really need to be mostly teachers, and a smaller portion is game plan. Good players can cover up issues, but it would be really nice to have good/great coaching along with good/great players.

I guess we will see what happens this off season.

Here's a trick question. Who is the better QB coach, Max Hall... or Jordan Wynn?
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Whoa. That is tricky. Give me a minute....or even a few hours......or days to figure this out.
 
LOL

Ummmmm...

22 point favorites are currently down by 1.

How much longer will Utah fans be drinking the kool-aid? It's pretty damn obvious.

MAJOR changes need to be made. MAJOR.

And if Whit doesn't have a MAJOR turnaround next year, the hammer truly needs to fall down.

1-10 is beating you. Again.

Forget Coach Anderson going to Cal. Utah needs to terminate their current HC and come up with the money to hire Anderson.
 
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