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Wow. This whole situation has become even more bizarre. I may have to eat my words on the MWC dying a painful death. There reports out there that Fresno and Nevada have accepted invitations to the MWC. At the very least, they have been invited officially. https://www.themwc.com/genrel/081810aab.html

From what I've read, this might be the last ditch effort by the MWC to keep BYU in the conference and essentially kill the WAC. A WAC without Boise, Fresno, or Nevada isn't nearly as appealing to BYU, obviously. One of these conferences are going to leave this thing a lot stronger and the other is going to be left for dead. There's 2 ways this can play out IMO: The WAC survives and gains BYU (non-football) and Boise comes back. Or Fresno and Nevada join Boise and force BYU's hand to stay (and possibly negotiate their own exclusive TV deal) and the WAC is essentially dead. Of course, that's entirely speculation by me. This thing could change again by tonight. Either way, this gotten really complicated. Just look at Joe Schadd's (ESPN reporter) twitter page.

The MWC comes out guns blazing on the WAC inviting both Fresno and Nevada
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The MWC believes those schools are coming and it could possibly affect BYU's thinking
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The WAC thinks they may not leave since they'd have to pay $5M penalty each to leave
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The WAC expects BYU is coming pending LDS Church approval
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How much value does a MWC w/o Utah or BYU possess?
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How much value does a WAC w/o Boise, Fresno or Nevada have?
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It is fascinating to observe the missiles being fired between the MWC and WAC. In end, who wins?
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With 10 teams, the MWC might just let BYU, which approached the WAC, walk away
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Without BYU and Utah the MWC might have to reconfigure the Mtn deal and explore alternative options
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Possible future WAC: NMST, Hawaii, SJSt, Idaho, Utah St, LaTech
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https://twitter.com/schadjoe
 
It certainly looks as if Fresno (which would mean Nevada also presumably), is on it's way to the MWC.

Fresno State will announce this evening that it has accepted an invitation to join the Mountain West Conference, sources with knowledge of the situation told The Bee this afternoon.

Fresno State's decision is independent of whether BYU leaves the Mountain West Conference. A source said that BYU is considering playing football as an independent because the Mountain West would not commit to the school over the next five seasons, while also granting the school the right to leave at any time for better opportunities.

Read more: https://www.fresnobee.com/2010/08/18/2045731/fresno-state-to-join-mwc.html#ixzz0x0DvoNk5
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BYU certainly needs to avoid the WAC if they do go Independent for their basketball program's sake. That's just awful leftovers(Utah State is fine, but we obviously play them anyway). I wouldn't mind being in the WCC with the other religious schools. Although, I wouldn't be terribly against staying in the MWC either. I've been advocating Fresno and Nevada for awhile now - I just wish they would boot out some of the rubbish that is currently in the league as well.
 
It's like the little kid (WAC) upset at big brother bully (MWC) planned this elaborate scheme to get big brother's X-Box 360 and right before that plan is set in motion, big brother comes to little brother and shoots him in the head.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
It's like the little kid (WAC) upset at big brother bully (MWC) planned this elaborate scheme to get big brother's X-Box 360 and right before that plan is set in motion, big brother comes to little brother and shoots him in the head.
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Distubing imagery
 
It's pretty much official, Fresno and Nevada are going to the MWC. Fresno has a press conference scheduled for 7:30 tonight. It's now a wait-and-see game with BYU to see what they what to do now. They hold the fate of UNLV and SDSU in their hands, essentially. I've read they'll follow BYU to the WAC if they go. Do they perhaps stay in the MWC for everything else but football? Or do they turn to the WCC?
 
//r00t 4 Jazz said:
Like I said I honestly could care less about this now with the U being in the PAC12 except for one thing..... now this is all I get to hear on the radio and local sports. Yes I'm thinking selfishly but I was enjoying the thought of getting to hear about the U on the radio instead of the Favre like coverage this will be getting for awhile now, guess I'll have time to digest this and talk it over with the Y fans/friends I know.
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Sorry, this is how it's always been.
 
Bronco70 said:
That's an interesting interpretation.

I think the MWC is in panic mode now.

BYU has nothing to worry about.
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How do you figure? There is no longer a soft landing spot for all of BYU's non-football programs. The new version of the WAC and WCC aren't exactly the most appealing options in the world. I think this forces BYU's hand quite a bit. I guess we'll see how badly they want to go independent. But I could certainly see them staying in the MWC now...at least a better chance of it than earlier today.

I would agree that the MWC was desperate. That's why they went out and got Fresno and Nevada. But they aren't anymore now that they got the WAC's two best remaining schools.
 
Bronco70 said:
That's an interesting interpretation.

I think the MWC is in panic mode now.

BYU has nothing to worry about.
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If Fresno and Nevada really do leave to join the MWC then there is no WAC for BYU to play the rest of their sports with. Meaning BYU is either stuck with the MWC, or finding another conference for their other sports, or going independent anyway and having a real problem with all non-football sports.

In other words if this is true BYU has a good # of things to worry about.
 
gregbroncs said:
If Fresno and Nevada really do leave to join the MWC then there is no WAC for BYU to play the rest of their sports with. Meaning BYU is either stuck with the MWC, or finding another conference for their other sports, or going independent anyway and having a real problem with all non-football sports.

In other words if this is true BYU has a good # of things to worry about.
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Just so you know, it's happening for sure. It's already been officially announced by both schools and the MWC. About Fresno and Nevada, that is.
 
TCU coach Gary Patterson:

"If you're BYU, you better be careful what you wish for," Patterson said. "It's not my job to worry about what Utah does, what BYU does, but I can tell you this: If you think being an independent is an easier way to get to a national championship, you're kidding yourself."
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And also:
"All I can tell you is this: Just wait and see in the next two weeks before you make any judgments and see what happens in the national landscape," Patterson said. "Things that I know that maybe you don't know. That's all I'm going to tell you."
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https://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/news/story?id=5475303
 
"If you're BYU, you better be careful what you wish for," Patterson said. "It's not my job to worry about what Utah does, what BYU does, but I can tell you this: If you think being an independent is an easier way to get to a national championship, you're kidding yourself."

They are doing it for the money not for the better shot at the National Championship.
 
So with the apparent demise of the WAC, it looks like BYU is down to two options:

#1- Use the West Coast Conferance as the partner that allows BYU to go independant in football while moving all their other sports there. In a way the WCC makes more sense than the WAC for BYU. It's a non-football conferance with a few schools with religious affiliations. Plus, I think it's better for basketball considering BYU would be playing the likes of Gonzaga and St. Mary's twice a year, but I'm sure the WAC was BYU's first choice because overall it was the better option for the Cougs.

or....

#2- With the additions of Fresno and Nevada, BYU figures that the MWC is even closer to Automatic Bid status and decides to stay put. This might be the better option for BYU. If winning the MWC turns into a direct path to the BCS, should BYU really walk away from that?
 
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