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NFL Thread 12-13

If I had a vote, I'd vote for Peterson for MVP. Peyton and Brady and Rodgers have been great. So has Megatron. But Peterson's in an entirely different stratosphere and without him, the Vikings would be 3-11 or something.
 
Hack said:
I disagree. I think Brady is a better QB than Peyton. He is more clutch. Even Eli is more clutch than Peyton. Peyton is a damn good regular season qb, but has been less than spectacular in the post season. Ill take Brady and Eli over Peyton in a big game. And there is definitely something to be said for that. I think Peyton just gets too fired up in big games and chokes quite often, and it seems he over thinks things too. You cant blame his teams either. I have watched all his post season games and he ends up choking and throwing stupid passes in big moments. Eli is the exact opposite, he gets better the more pressure there is.

The reason the Pats won 11 games without Brady is because that team was loaded. It was one of the best assembled rosters ever. The Colts just fell off right after Peyton because he had so much control over the offense that they had to completely start over. Brady is as good as advertised and better than Peyton.
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How many rings has NE won without their camera crew, again?
 
Hack said:
Eh! Not a good argument really. Unless you will say Eli is the best. Then we can agree.

You cant deny Brady is freaking awesome.
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Sure. He's great. I believe the camera crew argument in tandem with the Matt Cassel argument takes him out of the "best ever" conversation pretty well, however.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Sure. He's great. I believe the camera crew argument in tandem with the Matt Cassel argument takes him out of the "best ever" conversation pretty well, however.
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I don't. He's had an average supporting cast during his career unlike Manning who had two HOF'ers during his entire career basically in Harrison and Wayne.
 
Gyp Rosetti said:
I don't. He's had an average supporting cast during his career unlike Manning who had two HOF'ers during his entire career basically in Harrison and Wayne.
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Randy Moss? Their TEs the last couple of years? Those three players are all better than anything Manning had in Indy.

And he's had Bellicheck.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Randy Moss? Their TEs the last couple of years? Those three players are all better than anything Manning had in Indy.

And he's had Bellicheck.
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He had Moss for a year and a half. He's had these tight ends for two and a half years. For the majority of his career, he's had guys like Branch and Welker who he makes look much better than they are.
 
Gyp Rosetti said:
He had Moss for a year and a half. He's had these tight ends for two and a half years. For the majority of his career, he's had guys like Branch and Welker who he makes look much better than they are.
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That's what a QB is supposed to do. And he's great. But I don't think you can call someone the best ever when their team did fine without them and they've never been able to get it done without cheating being involved.
 
Gyp Rosetti said:
I don't. He's had an average supporting cast during his career unlike Manning who had two HOF'ers during his entire career basically in Harrison and Wayne.
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His defense was far from average. Not shockingly once the defense went so did the Superbowls. It's like he had to deal with what Manning did his whole career.
 
NUMBERICA said:
That's what a QB is supposed to do. And he's great. But I don't think you can call someone the best ever when their team did fine without them and they've never been able to get it done without cheating being involved.
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Oi vey. They've gotten to two SB's since the scandal. But I guess that doesn't matter. Only that they didn't win it.
 
NUMBERICA said:
That's what a QB is supposed to do. And he's great. But I don't think you can call someone the best ever when their team did fine without them and they've never been able to get it done without cheating being involved.
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I dont remember anyone saying he is the best ever. The argument was him or manning. Which turned into is Brady any good.

Brady is freaking good. Best ever. Probably not.
 
Totally pathetic of the Cowboys to allow that drunk "alleged" criminal who just killed his teammate in their gear and on the sideline during the game today.
 
Chad Feldheimer said:
Totally pathetic of the Cowboys to allow that drunk "alleged" criminal who just killed his teammate in their gear and on the sideline during the game today.
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Call me a douche, but I doubt he forced his teammate who died to ride in the car with him.

They were out drinking together and were both at fault to similar degrees. It's even possible that the guy who died was happy his teammate would drive home so that he didn't have to be the drunken driver.

It's obviously terrible to drink and drive at all, but his friend dying was an accident. He's not a murderer or anything.

It would be 10x more upsetting to me if he had killed another driver or innocent party. I don't think you can count someone who gets into a car with a drunk person a completely innocent party.

Having said all that, it is weird they would have him on the sidelines.
 
UGLI baby said:
Call me a douche, but I doubt he forced his teammate who died to ride in the car with him.

They were out drinking together and were both at fault to similar degrees. It's even possible that the guy who died was happy his teammate would drive home so that he didn't have to be the drunken driver.

It's obviously terrible to drink and drive at all, but his friend dying was an accident. He's not a murderer or anything.

It would be 10x more upsetting to me if he had killed another driver or innocent party. I don't think you can count someone who gets into a car with a drunk person a completely innocent party.

Having said all that, it is weird they would have him on the sidelines.
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Agreed. Probably part of the reason why the mother of the victim doesn't want the guy to be prosecuted.
 
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