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Official Don't Read Bleacher Report Unless You Like the Onion Thread (NBA Top 50 Players Edition)

Archie Moses said:
ARod up until he won the World Series maybe. Michael Vick too. Also, maybe Tiger Woods can be added to that list, especially if he doesn't win more majors than Jack Nicklaus.
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Vick's a poor example. At least, I don't think it's the same "mental fortitude" issue that we're talking about here. Vick was just never that good of a quarterback. Ever. Some of could be described as "mental" - in that he was a poor reader of defenses - but it wasn't like he was world-class in every way except for the fact that he didn't come through in the clutch, or wasn't a champion, or didn't have a killer instinct, or couldn't handle expectations. He had severe flaws as a player that prevented him from even being in this discussion. We're talking about true greats who, for one reason or another, didn't have that one mental ingredient to put them over the top. Like LeBron eschewing any chance of being in Jordan's class, opting instead to be Magic/Pippen. (Still a pretty great thing, but no Jordan.)

At least that's how I interpreted the question.
 
cp3 and dwight above dwill is a joke. Dwight can rebound and play d but has no offensive game other then the dunk. Cp3 has never advanced further in the playoffs then dwill.What a joke
 
lakers dont want cp3.Just cuz he might wanna go ride kobes jock doesnt mean kobe or phil want him. cp3 dont have no weakness my butt. He canty shoot it, is injury prone, But makes the highlight reel cuz all he knows how to do is live off the lil lob feed. So cp3 is pissed what he going to do start nut punching people again.Dwill 3 times the player he is
 
Archie Moses said:
ARod up until he won the World Series maybe. Michael Vick too. Also, maybe Tiger Woods can be added to that list, especially if he doesn't win more majors than Jack Nicklaus.
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Arod will retire as the home-run king. Michael Vick has problems with the law, no one critique his desire to win and competitiveness. Tiger kind of had some major issues off the field, but the focus is starting to come back.

Lebron's slate is clean at this point.
 
anonymous832 said:
Vick's a poor example. At least, I don't think it's the same "mental fortitude" issue that we're talking about here. Vick was just never that good of a quarterback. Ever. Some of could be described as "mental" - in that he was a poor reader of defenses - but it wasn't like he was world-class in every way except for the fact that he didn't come through in the clutch, or wasn't a champion, or didn't have a killer instinct, or couldn't handle expectations. He had severe flaws as a player that prevented him from even being in this discussion. We're talking about true greats who, for one reason or another, didn't have that one mental ingredient to put them over the top. Like LeBron eschewing any chance of being in Jordan's class, opting instead to be Magic/Pippen. (Still a pretty great thing, but no Jordan.)

At least that's how I interpreted the question.
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I hear ya...
Vick had unique weapons that didn't require him to have elite QB skills. He could lead a team to the playoffs without throwing 70% completion rate.
 
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