Jazz4ever
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He makes very good decisions. What I really like though is his keen court awareness and does not telegraph his passes in the slightest. Help defense usually don't have much of a chance after Burke makes the dish.
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He makes very good decisions. What I really like though is his keen court awareness and does not telegraph his passes in the slightest. Help defense usually don't have much of a chance after Burke makes the dish.
Agreed. We've already got Hayward.
I kind of disagree. We have some very nice future pieces, maybe even great pieces. What we do not have, imo, is a an absolute leader. I think for this team to come together and gel .. to have that team chemistry most championship teams develop, someone will need to emerge as the 'the' guy. I don't see that person on this team and I don't see that person in this draft.
Nash, Paul, Rondo .. these guys make their teammates work harder, focus on a team goal, play hard, and play together.
This is why I like Burke best, I think he's the most mentally strong..
NAOS
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A Tony Parker-ish offense with Burke at the point would look pretty good for us. Favs setting that high screen...
That dude can attack, and with the playmaking you get from Hay and Alec, you can afford to leave him in attack mode. If he can't get north to south, then he kicks it to "Manu" for the off-speed attack.
That dude can attack, and with the playmaking you get from Hay and Alec, you can afford to leave him in attack mode. If he can't get north to south, then he kicks it to "Manu" for the off-speed attack.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Is Burke the boards consensus top pg prospect?
spycam1
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I see what you're saying. I agree we need a great leader, but that doesn't necessarily mean they need to be a fantastic talent. Maybe Burke would be good for this, like you said. I've also heard that Smart is a very vocal leader and he considers that his most valuable asset.
What's the easiest way we could get this leader you're talking about? Paul becomes a FA, but I see no chance of that happening. Boston would want A LOT for Rondo.
spycam1
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He's probably the most well liked, but I wouldn't say he's our consensus top PG prospect.
I don't think Rondo is a great leader. He is just a great player. He gets in trouble on the court a lot and has been difficult to deal with at times.
I do not have a favorite PG guy at this time. It is too early to tell. Besides I don't think anyone has separated themselves from the others. They all have +/- attributes. I think it would be difficult if all of them are on the board to chose one without seeing them in the combine and interviews. Besides we don't even know if Smart or Burke are going to come out this year. So the Jazz may still not have a choice.
I do not have a favorite PG guy at this time. It is too early to tell. Besides I don't think anyone has separated themselves from the others. They all have +/- attributes. I think it would be difficult if all of them are on the board to chose one without seeing them in the combine and interviews. Besides we don't even know if Smart or Burke are going to come out this year. So the Jazz may still not have a choice.
spycam1
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PKM's not online so I'll have to step in...
Rondo = amazing leader
Demands the absolute best of everyone around him at all times...almost to a fault.
Almost? Since when is pushing a HOFer with gas in the tank off a team ALMOST a fault?
Don't be a nancy.
Jazz4ever
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Way to much hero ball for my liking. That stuff don't fly in the NBA unless you have elite size or athleticism - CJ has neither. I'll stick to my ceiling of Ben Gordon, and you don't want to know the floor.
mct
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Ben Gordon wishes he had that handle, but I guess I can see the comparison. I would be happy with any of the four PGs in this draft. It reminds me of the Ty Lawson, Jrue Holiday, Eric Maynor year.
Kind of unfortunate for them that every team in the NBA already has a PG. Good for the Jazz though.
Yeah I do agree as well.
It reminds me of when a reporter asks Phil Jackson whether Chris Paul or DWill was better (This was about 2-3 years ago when DWill was with Jazz and Paul was with Hornets). Phil's answer was: He'd rather NOT face Chris Paul as an opponent. But, he'd rather have DWill running his team.
I think the point was, he'd rather have somebody who he can trust in managing his team, controlling the offense, etc.
This is why I think Burke is the better choice as well. He's not flashy in the way that MCW can pass or McCollum can shoot or Smart can score/rebound/steal/defend. Burke just seems to have a "steady-ness" quality about him. He's not flashy - but he'll give you a steady hand at the point, feed the open man, shoot the occasional 3's and does it with very low TO's.
If we're picking #18 and we pick him, I think it's a good pick for us.
spycam1
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I don't think anyone would argue against that.
Well, I live near the Boston area and I have heard many things to dispute your opinion. Rondo has a quirky personality off the court and early in his career he was difficult to manage. If he wasn't so talented the Celtics would have traded him. There for a while even the fan base was ready to trade him. He has butted heads with KG, Pierce and Ray Allen. A contributing factor why Ray Allen left Boston was because of his strained relationship with Rondo. Rondo has been suspended a few times costing his team games.
Winning a championship doesn't make you a great leader, his talent helped win a championship not his "great" leadership. I do think Rondo is not as bad as he was when he came into the league but he is still hard headed about certain things. There is no doubt the kid has talent and works his butt off but leadership is more than working hard. Currently, I do not think it is Rondo's strong point. It is kind of like his jump shot, average and erratic but improving.